Mr. Rogers' Neighbor[chat]

Podly

Caveman Paws wrote: »

Podly wrote: »

I'd forgotten about my secret mescal stash! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

But getting more "wish you were here" texts from this dame is BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tell her to come over afterwards.

it would just be too sloppy and prolonged and fuck up my day tomorrow

unfortunately, as much as I love making the fun bad decisions I tell you all about, this is a scenario when I have to bite the bullet

Mojo_Jojo

Elki wrote: »

I'll never understand Avengers love. It was alright. Really alright. So OK. Spectacularly decent.

It came after Thor and Captain America. People had lost faith in the idea of a good super hero film.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, but thinking back I can see how it doesn't hang together too well as a complete piece and was just a vehicle for entertaining little scenes. I am okay with this though.

Podly

also, watching the tim and eric movie

fucking brilliant

Caveman Paws

1am.

Caveman, you blowhard!

>.< Goodnight[chat].

OnTheLastCastle

what a fun night. i just came home to a message from a poet at the writers workshop who according to her profile writes poems based on survival horror games and reads redwall books when sad for the scenes of mice feasting.

i want to go to there.

Mojo_Jojo

For some reason I ended up watching Rocky last night. Apparently I'd only seen the sequels.

It was very different to what I expected. A mentally ill failed boxer trying to cope with life in what seemed to be a post apocalyptic wasteland (but which I'm told is just Philadelphia).

OnTheLastCastle

Her last message was just "EULALALIAAAAAA"

I'm going to try to temper my expectations and not get excited.

Podly

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

For some reason I ended up watching Rocky last night. Apparently I'd only seen the sequels.

It was very different to what I expected. A mentally ill failed boxer trying to cope with life in what seemed to be a post apocalyptic wasteland (but which I'm told is just Philadelphia).

rocky is a legitimately good film

the rest are fun films, but very macho campy

that being said, rocky iv is my go to stupid but awesome movie, and still one of my faves

bloodyroarxx

Heh that Clang Kickstarter video is funny, Gabe cameo was great.

But the concept is flawed

Kalkino

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

For some reason I ended up watching Rocky last night. Apparently I'd only seen the sequels.

It was very different to what I expected. A mentally ill failed boxer trying to cope with life in what seemed to be a post apocalyptic wasteland (but which I'm told is just Philadelphia).

I like that about a lot of US films from the late 70s or 80s, the gritty portrayal of inner city decline

Aldo

[chat] morning good!

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Her last message was just "EULALALIAAAAAA"

I'm going to try to temper my expectations and not get excited.

end user license agreement laliaaaa?

Eddy

Kalkino wrote: »

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

For some reason I ended up watching Rocky last night. Apparently I'd only seen the sequels.

It was very different to what I expected. A mentally ill failed boxer trying to cope with life in what seemed to be a post apocalyptic wasteland (but which I'm told is just Philadelphia).

I like that about a lot of US films from the late 70s or 80s, the gritty portrayal of inner city decline

It's kind of depressing to see how shitty east coast cities were in the late 70s - early 80s. NYC, DC, Philly, Boston ... all were just awful, awful places

Kalkino

Eddy wrote: »

Kalkino wrote: »

Mojo_Jojo wrote: »

For some reason I ended up watching Rocky last night. Apparently I'd only seen the sequels.

It was very different to what I expected. A mentally ill failed boxer trying to cope with life in what seemed to be a post apocalyptic wasteland (but which I'm told is just Philadelphia).

I like that about a lot of US films from the late 70s or 80s, the gritty portrayal of inner city decline

It's kind of depressing to see how shitty east coast cities were in the late 70s - early 80s. NYC, DC, Philly, Boston ... all were just awful, awful places

Yeah, but that was sort of the world then, in many places, as opposed to the clean, modernised cities we live in now (well, I'm talking about London and various NZ cities, not the US).

Hell, my home town didn't really start to look good again till the mid-late 1990s

Aldo

It's such a sign of the times too: Neo-liberals cut spending and the first victim was a pleasant environment to live in.

Kalkino

Aldo wrote: »

It's such a sign of the times too: Neo-liberals cut spending and the first victim was a pleasant environment to live in.

Hmm, well that is part of it, but in NZ's case, 1970 onwards was sort of tough times, although that got a lot worse once the neo liberal reforms kicked in.

Elki

Thor got added to Netflix. Who's not thrilled?

Jacobkosh

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

AngelHedgie

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

And now all the rural areas are getting beat ugly with the meth stick.

AngelHedgie

Podly wrote: »

Caveman Paws wrote: »

Podly wrote: »

I'd forgotten about my secret mescal stash! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

But getting more "wish you were here" texts from this dame is BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tell her to come over afterwards.

it would just be too sloppy and prolonged and fuck up my day tomorrow

unfortunately, as much as I love making the fun bad decisions I tell you all about, this is a scenario when I have to bite the bullet

You know, I'd like to have a healthy attitude towards intimacy. I'm getting a bit tired of the self-loathing for even wanting to be touched.

Aldo

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

surrealitycheck

i bit podlys nipple

Podly

yep

Eddy

Jacobkosh

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

surrealitycheck

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Podly

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

well, being from boston, when I hear school bussing I just see this

Kalkino

I suspect that having a narrower range of responsibilities helps too, so for example, education and policing are nationally administered and funded in NZ. So if a local authority is doing poorly, policing and education will still be funded properly, assuming no general crisis

surrealitycheck

so how do you all feel about being da best

Kalkino

surrealitycheck wrote: »

so how do you all feel about being da best

Dear sir,

Super!

Regards

Aldo

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

But that's exactly the thing, America is set up in such a ridiculous way that a major urban centre *can* have it's tax base dry up. (see also: public schools). That's just physically impossible here in Holland, the rich people in downtown Amsterdam pay taxes to build schools in the shittiest parts of the city. Most of our taxes go to the national level, where a large part of it is distributed back to municipalities. So my suburban ass is indirectly paying for extra cops in Amsterdam and farm subsidies in Noord-Oost Groningen*.

For the record: we also had shite city centres for ages**, because the government favoured other projects over improving the living conditions in city centres. There's tons of different factors at play, but in large parts of the Western world we fucked up our urban areas. Holland is not very neo-liberal, but it's stuff like this that shows that we too thought Reagan and Tatcher were right.

*

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Jacobkosh

surrealitycheck wrote: »

so how do you all feel about being da best

Aldo

Podly wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

well, being from boston, when I hear school bussing I just see this

holy fuck, that's fantastic in it's fucked-upness


*e: "For three years after the plan commenced, Massachusetts state troopers were stationed at South Boston High." Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. O_O

Eddy

@skippydumptruck

Look at this awful graffiti in your shit city. I bet you feel awful about it. I bet you're regretting your tattoos due to it.

Aldo

"The youths dragged him out and crushed his skull with nearby paving stones. When police arrived, the man was surrounded by a crowd of 100 chanting "Let him die" while lying in a coma from which he never recovered."

Murrica be fucked up.

Jacobkosh

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

But that's exactly the thing, America is set up in such a ridiculous way that a major urban centre *can* have it's tax base dry up.

that's a lot different from saying "no one did anything to stop it." stopping it was never a realistic possibility regardless of what anyone wanted.

RMS Oceanic

It is surprisingly sunny today.

Eddy

The murder of James Byrd Jr is heartbreakingly awful. Claudia Rankine's poem and musings about it are incredible.

Aldo

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Aldo wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

in america it was less about political spending cuts and more about demographic shifts - out of the cities and into the suburbs, and out of the northeast and into the south and southwest - at the same time as heroin was eating giant holes through the heart of every city in the country

it is hard to overstate exactly how devastating heroin was when it hit big

That's part of it, but exactly how much did the government put into keeping city centres attractive and safe? No one ever stopped the formation of the worst sin of the Americans: shopping malls outside city centres.

actually the government tried a lot in the mid-late 1960s - there were a lot of "War on Poverty" programs from the Johnson administration that kept trucking well through the next decade. there were big pushes for school busing and urban housing and so forth. but it's hard to overcome the reality of several major urban centers having their tax bases dry up and blow away.

But that's exactly the thing, America is set up in such a ridiculous way that a major urban centre *can* have it's tax base dry up.

that's a lot different from saying "no one did anything to stop it." stopping it was never a realistic possibility regardless of what anyone wanted.

Step one would have been to centralise taxes to such a degree that it would have been possible to do anything, but that was somehow never an option for anyone. Actually, I'm not sure what the story behind this is... I know most of this is managed on the state-level, so there's probably gigantic differences between states. I always get the impression that the Americans hate paying taxes, but has that resulted in people paying most of their taxes to a local government, as to give them the idea that their tax dollars are put to good for use for them personally?

Aldo

Hmm, I'm using both American English and British English words in the same sentences, this is annoying.

Kalkino

Aldo wrote: »

Hmm, I'm using both American English and British English words in the same sentences, this is annoying.

Native speakers do it too!