Apparently a couple monsters got their home tile destroyed and decided to truck it out into the dark reaches of the map, keeping the quest from completing.
Report it on their forums, because that bug was supposedly fixed in 1.4 and I think 1.5 is now out already. Hope you have a save game left to upload as well.
Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
Interestingly I'm actually rather pleased by the AI's tactical battle performance. It's a lot better than Master of Magic's, for example.
The tactical AI is really damn fine, it's become pretty hard to game it for easy victories anymore. Changes to the initiative system and all the weapon/racial special abilities have helped that a lot too.
Interestingly I'm actually rather pleased by the AI's tactical battle performance. It's a lot better than Master of Magic's, for example.
The tactical AI is really damn fine, it's become pretty hard to game it for easy victories anymore. Changes to the initiative system and all the weapon/racial special abilities have helped that a lot too.
Speaking of which, I love the changes to the militia. They hit like a truck. I've had more trouble (and suffered more losses) against enemy militia than anything else I've fought so far.
Triptycho: A card-and-dice tabletop indie RPG currently in development and playtesting
Yeah, I'm finding Commanders and Mages to be the most useful heroes. Warriors and Defenders are pretty weak unless you luck out and get some kickass piece of gear to hand them earlier than you could get on units. Last game I lucked out with Bacco and got him a big-ass sword, which I paired with focusing purely on Attack upgrades from his levels. He slaughtered everything. But my other warrior heroes, including all of them this game, are weaksauce.
Wait, that's not true. I got the assassin kitty with Maul. That one is hilarious. Especially when paired with a Commander that has Command and all the accuracy boosters. Everything dies.
Triptycho: A card-and-dice tabletop indie RPG currently in development and playtesting
+2
Options
BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
If you can find the unique monster with the horn that gives you Maul, that is a game-changing item right there.
Uuuuugh after my first mostly-successful game I've been getting my face pushed in and I'm really wondering what the hell I'm doing wrong. I'm having a lot of trouble putting together an empire infrastructure that can actually pump out good units in less than ten turns, should my first priority be putting up a Fort city for units? I keep thinking I'm doing well and then the AI waltzes in with armies that would take me two-three hundred turns to assemble and roll my shit.
Should I be sending my heroes out to explore and level at all times? Should I keep them at home? Should I be backing them up with units and building minimal improvements at home? I don't knowww. The fact that it's so damn hard to build troops that are actually worth a damn is a problem too.
What faction or what custom faction traits you pick make a big difference in how you play, so maybe tell us what your normal setup is. There are a few universal rules.
Expand wildly in the early game. More cities = more production queues. I generally start off with a town, then a conclave, then a fort, but that can vary depending on the resources I find. Lower taxes to start with, while you have some gold on hand. Don't be afraid to rush production on a few early buildings. Research spears and leather armor as soon as is reasonable. Leather + spear troops last for quite a long time.
Make sure you build +food buildings a little bit before a city is about to hit its population cap. Keep an eye on your unrest and put up unrest buildings where needed. Remember that there is an unrest penalty for settlements not connected via sphere of influence to your capital. Prioritize production buildings in fortresses. Remember to cast city enchants!
Yes, your heroes should be exploring constantly. Look for unguarded goodie huts or easy lairs. Keep at least two units of your best troops with each hero. Don't feel bad about abusing save/load until you get the hang of what you can fight and what you can't.
A fort with the unit cost reduction building upgrades should be able to spit out powerful units in under 5 turns. Build your forts in 4+ Material tiles. Use Enchanted Hammers to get the buildings up quickly (if you can't afford to rush them), then switch to unit-boosting enchantments.
If you're stuck with some bad production and you can't do anything about it, take a visit to the unit designer. Make very basic, cheap units with little to no defenses and solid attack power. Maybe with Club type weapons so you get the bash skill for extra damage at the cost of a turn. These will basically be glass cannon units that you use to wipe out enemies in a single shot. You'll lose them fast, but you can replace them, and you can use them to protect your more valuable leveled-up units (such as your hero).
Alternatively, if you can't beat them with numbers (and frankly I never have close to what the AI produces), beat them with magic. Put Meditation in every city, get every node you can, and avoid maintenance enchantments. In battle, win by using summons and direct damage spells (hasting your spellcasters on the first round). Use a kiting strategy to stay alive.
It's also really nice if you can get your hands on just one "Super Unit" that's way ahead in Atk/Def and can flatten large groups by itself. Well, not entirely by itself; you'll probably still want to grant it Swarm bonuses by sending some mooks to aid it. But anyway, if you can get just one super strong unit, you can leverage it to kill everything. Especially with liberal use of haste/slow and such.
How do you get such super units? You can rush some military tech and produce it perhaps, but you're usually better off finding it through questing. With rapid, successful questing, you'll usually get some kind of powerful unit and/or piece of equipment that you can leverage to win wars.
If the AI is actually attacking you, goad them into attacking your cities. You get free militia units you can use to give swarm bonuses to your army. Also their bash skill delivers some serious pain.
If all else fails, get an army of archers/mages on horseback and cheese most everything to death. Stack +Initiative items and traits (you'll want lots of crystal for this, generally). This won't work against fast units, but that's typically more of a problem against world monsters, not AI armies. Wargs can be superior to horses with this strategy due to the Init boost they grant.
Triptycho: A card-and-dice tabletop indie RPG currently in development and playtesting
New 'Leaders' DLC pack is out today. The Leader Pack adds a new sovereign to each of the ten factions, plus new abilities and items to the custom sovereign creator.
There's also a livestream at 3pm EST where Kael will be talking about the DLC and taking questions. Be sure to stop by.
So question about the talent that lets you learn Magic as books. Is it exactly what it says? Like, I could start with no magics and learn all 4 if I so choose? Same with my companions?
So question about the talent that lets you learn Magic as books. Is it exactly what it says? Like, I could start with no magics and learn all 4 if I so choose? Same with my companions?
I guess I should ask. what are your favorite starting talents/character setups? I've been doing the perk that lets you fortify, and talents, pretty much anything defense/accuracy oriented and Scrying pools.
I guess I should ask. what are your favorite starting talents/character setups? I've been doing the perk that lets you fortify, and talents, pretty much anything defense/accuracy oriented and Scrying pools.
+25% DEF for all units, Cruel (+5% unrest [wah] and +1 ATK), the other +ATK perk (Mighty or somethig? I forget, its like +3 ATK). Earth magic ALWAYS, and ALWAYS rank 2. Stone skin and enchanted hammers out of the gate? You're goddamn right I will. Usually another school at rank one. Most often life, otherwise a toss up between water and air. Less often fire. After that it depends on the points left over. The immune to poison and 1hp/level is actually really nice, or just generally whatever strikes my fancy if I have a point left over. Generally combat oriented. I tend to play a melee, high atk sov.
Scrying pools, the +research racial. Master scouts because lets not fucking kid ourselves here. The +Luck/+Accuracy% trait. Usually either the racial weakness that lowers mag resist, or no ranged weapons.
I forgot to mention that the books from the Decalon don't show up until a ways into the tech tree, too, so you'll be waiting awhile for spells if those are your main source.
I still prefer a combat sov early game anyway. Your first few heroes always have some spell schools, so you won't go totally without, and the early game is much easier for a melee character than it is for a magic character.
I still prefer a combat sov early game anyway. Your first few heroes always have some spell schools, so you won't go totally without, and the early game is much easier for a melee character than it is for a magic character.
Yeah - low mana totals, low mana regen rates, and weak spells (because you don't have any mana nodes buffing them) all combine to make early magic really tough.
You can start with a ranged attack staff, now, at least, but that costs a build point.
I forgot to mention that the books from the Decalon don't show up until a ways into the tech tree, too, so you'll be waiting awhile for spells if those are your main source.
Good to know. I'll probably just keep my game then.
I'm on my 2nd round already of restarting. I really hate early game slowness, I'll have to wait for that to wear off.
If I could just start with Civics, and leather armor when I begin, I would.
The magic system needs some further re-balancing and probably more than 5 ranks, realistically speaking, so they can have a finer progression of damage spells. In order to do that, it really needs a lot more spells period, but that's been an issue since War of Magic. It's gotten better, but the magic system as a whole still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I forgot to mention that the books from the Decalon don't show up until a ways into the tech tree, too, so you'll be waiting awhile for spells if those are your main source.
Good to know. I'll probably just keep my game then.
I'm on my 2nd round already of restarting. I really hate early game slowness, I'll have to wait for that to wear off.
If I could just start with Civics, and leather armor when I begin, I would.
I'm sure one of the faction perks starts you with Civics. I think one of them starts you with the tech just prior to leather meaning you can take leather as your first research project.
The game's pace settings are worth looking into, to be honest. They simply cut build and research times so (for example) instead of doing nothing for 8 turns before you build/research something, you do nothing for 4 turns instead. I have long been a purist and never touched those settings, but once in a while I'll be in the mood for a quickie and nudge them up a tick. Also if you haven't been playing with monsters on 'dense', I highly recommend it.
Wildlands map + Dense monsters = OH GOD EVERYTHING IS BLOOD AND SPIDERS
Yea my most recent start is monsters on dense. That is part of my issue. next to my town I have 4 50-80 strength monsters vs my 40, if my borders expand it is going to be trouble.
Yea my most recent start is monsters on dense. That is part of my issue. next to my town I have 4 50-80 strength monsters vs my 40, if my borders expand it is going to be trouble exciting!
I think one of them starts you with the tech just prior to leather meaning you can take leather as your first research project.
Leather's one of the two first-rank techs in the Warfare tree (the other is Training, which is available via a faction perk).
The other thing I don't think's particularly ... well-working? ... is buying sovereign / champion equipment. Like, the cost to outfit a hero in leather armor is astronomical.
It's unfortunate that the new DLC doesn't include a new champion for the Empire of the Dead.
The game should have a quick start option.
0
Options
AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
I'm a big fan of starting with Wealth, beelining to rushing, and then blasting out a pioneer or two. Cog and Elvenshae's explanation of why it's easiest to go fight-y early is spot on, as well, though apparently everyone else forgot the crucial "bring an axe," part of that. It doesn't stay true, and occasionally the game will be all "lol bears and spiders and umberdroth" and you'll feel silly, but it's huge against men and darklings-heavy maps.
Also, personal preference, but I prefer the Men with +1 movement.
And yeah, axes are pretty awesome, but so are the counter attacks from swords, especially if you get into the tree that gives you multiple counter attacks. Plus, most axes exclude using shields, which are fairly useful in the early game.
0
Options
AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
And yeah, axes are pretty awesome, but so are the counter attacks from swords, especially if you get into the tree that gives you multiple counter attacks. Plus, most axes exclude using shields, which are fairly useful in the early game.
Yeah, it's not like swords are bad. It's just that right out the gate, imo, you're better off using an axe. It'll be a couple of levels before it's useful to switch and you'll get them quicker with the multi-hit.
If you're taking earth 2 for stoneskin and have the 25% defense perk, I'm all about taking a shield and stacking all the early game defense I can to max out that def. Then you swipe the armor from your first hero (usually from building the beacon) and the inevitable Bacco, and you're pretty fucking solid for anything up to a cave bear or skath.
Posts
Report it on their forums, because that bug was supposedly fixed in 1.4 and I think 1.5 is now out already. Hope you have a save game left to upload as well.
The tactical AI is really damn fine, it's become pretty hard to game it for easy victories anymore. Changes to the initiative system and all the weapon/racial special abilities have helped that a lot too.
Wait, that's not true. I got the assassin kitty with Maul. That one is hilarious. Especially when paired with a Commander that has Command and all the accuracy boosters. Everything dies.
Should I be sending my heroes out to explore and level at all times? Should I keep them at home? Should I be backing them up with units and building minimal improvements at home? I don't knowww. The fact that it's so damn hard to build troops that are actually worth a damn is a problem too.
Expand wildly in the early game. More cities = more production queues. I generally start off with a town, then a conclave, then a fort, but that can vary depending on the resources I find. Lower taxes to start with, while you have some gold on hand. Don't be afraid to rush production on a few early buildings. Research spears and leather armor as soon as is reasonable. Leather + spear troops last for quite a long time.
Make sure you build +food buildings a little bit before a city is about to hit its population cap. Keep an eye on your unrest and put up unrest buildings where needed. Remember that there is an unrest penalty for settlements not connected via sphere of influence to your capital. Prioritize production buildings in fortresses. Remember to cast city enchants!
Yes, your heroes should be exploring constantly. Look for unguarded goodie huts or easy lairs. Keep at least two units of your best troops with each hero. Don't feel bad about abusing save/load until you get the hang of what you can fight and what you can't.
If you're stuck with some bad production and you can't do anything about it, take a visit to the unit designer. Make very basic, cheap units with little to no defenses and solid attack power. Maybe with Club type weapons so you get the bash skill for extra damage at the cost of a turn. These will basically be glass cannon units that you use to wipe out enemies in a single shot. You'll lose them fast, but you can replace them, and you can use them to protect your more valuable leveled-up units (such as your hero).
Alternatively, if you can't beat them with numbers (and frankly I never have close to what the AI produces), beat them with magic. Put Meditation in every city, get every node you can, and avoid maintenance enchantments. In battle, win by using summons and direct damage spells (hasting your spellcasters on the first round). Use a kiting strategy to stay alive.
It's also really nice if you can get your hands on just one "Super Unit" that's way ahead in Atk/Def and can flatten large groups by itself. Well, not entirely by itself; you'll probably still want to grant it Swarm bonuses by sending some mooks to aid it. But anyway, if you can get just one super strong unit, you can leverage it to kill everything. Especially with liberal use of haste/slow and such.
How do you get such super units? You can rush some military tech and produce it perhaps, but you're usually better off finding it through questing. With rapid, successful questing, you'll usually get some kind of powerful unit and/or piece of equipment that you can leverage to win wars.
If the AI is actually attacking you, goad them into attacking your cities. You get free militia units you can use to give swarm bonuses to your army. Also their bash skill delivers some serious pain.
If all else fails, get an army of archers/mages on horseback and cheese most everything to death. Stack +Initiative items and traits (you'll want lots of crystal for this, generally). This won't work against fast units, but that's typically more of a problem against world monsters, not AI armies. Wargs can be superior to horses with this strategy due to the Init boost they grant.
Full changelog is here.
There's also a livestream at 3pm EST where Kael will be talking about the DLC and taking questions. Be sure to stop by.
Seriously, that's exactly what I needed.
I need a sale on the base game so I can do exactly that!
Origin: Broncbuster
Check your email
Let it be known, Darmak is a hero, and will be my first hero!
Origin: Broncbuster
Origin: Broncbuster
Yes, it's a pretty awesome ability.
Origin: Broncbuster
Origin: Broncbuster
Yeah, basically, it adds 4 items to your shops, that each teach rank 1 of a spell school (Fire, Earth, Air, Water; no Life or Death, though).
They're expensive, and you still need to use a level-up point to advance to rank 2, though.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
+25% DEF for all units, Cruel (+5% unrest [wah] and +1 ATK), the other +ATK perk (Mighty or somethig? I forget, its like +3 ATK). Earth magic ALWAYS, and ALWAYS rank 2. Stone skin and enchanted hammers out of the gate? You're goddamn right I will. Usually another school at rank one. Most often life, otherwise a toss up between water and air. Less often fire. After that it depends on the points left over. The immune to poison and 1hp/level is actually really nice, or just generally whatever strikes my fancy if I have a point left over. Generally combat oriented. I tend to play a melee, high atk sov.
Scrying pools, the +research racial. Master scouts because lets not fucking kid ourselves here. The +Luck/+Accuracy% trait. Usually either the racial weakness that lowers mag resist, or no ranged weapons.
Sovereign:
Civ:
Master Scouts is just so good that I refuse to take it.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
I forgot to mention that the books from the Decalon don't show up until a ways into the tech tree, too, so you'll be waiting awhile for spells if those are your main source.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Yeah - low mana totals, low mana regen rates, and weak spells (because you don't have any mana nodes buffing them) all combine to make early magic really tough.
You can start with a ranged attack staff, now, at least, but that costs a build point.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Good to know. I'll probably just keep my game then.
I'm on my 2nd round already of restarting. I really hate early game slowness, I'll have to wait for that to wear off.
If I could just start with Civics, and leather armor when I begin, I would.
Origin: Broncbuster
I'm sure one of the faction perks starts you with Civics. I think one of them starts you with the tech just prior to leather meaning you can take leather as your first research project.
The game's pace settings are worth looking into, to be honest. They simply cut build and research times so (for example) instead of doing nothing for 8 turns before you build/research something, you do nothing for 4 turns instead. I have long been a purist and never touched those settings, but once in a while I'll be in the mood for a quickie and nudge them up a tick. Also if you haven't been playing with monsters on 'dense', I highly recommend it.
Wildlands map + Dense monsters = OH GOD EVERYTHING IS BLOOD AND SPIDERS
Origin: Broncbuster
Leather's one of the two first-rank techs in the Warfare tree (the other is Training, which is available via a faction perk).
The other thing I don't think's particularly ... well-working? ... is buying sovereign / champion equipment. Like, the cost to outfit a hero in leather armor is astronomical.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
You could also make Leather available instead with some quick work in the XML......
The game should have a quick start option.
Also, personal preference, but I prefer the Men with +1 movement.
And yeah, axes are pretty awesome, but so are the counter attacks from swords, especially if you get into the tree that gives you multiple counter attacks. Plus, most axes exclude using shields, which are fairly useful in the early game.
Yeah, it's not like swords are bad. It's just that right out the gate, imo, you're better off using an axe. It'll be a couple of levels before it's useful to switch and you'll get them quicker with the multi-hit.