Oh, so Riot made another item that gives a hyperefficient amount of killing power because they can't be assed to just let junglers have income, and it turns out now people are running it in lane because efficient.
Seriously, you'd think they'd have realized by now they just have to let junglers have gold.
actually runegaiIve isn't that efficient. It just does two important things for EZ.
1) wave clear. Albeit minimal. This is enhanced by the ability to take AoE smite in non assassin matchups for some good Wave clear. This shored up EZs prime weakness (shoved in super easy)
2) it turns the damage of the triggering auto attack to magic which lets it stack advantageously with voidstaff. This turns the entire mystic shot base and scaling damage to magic. And so is particularly strong on EZ who has a good portion of his damage eaten up as physical.
3) it's cheap (but not necessarily efficient for its full cost including the smite item) which means you can acquire it and move on.
Basically if EZ couldn't make use of smite well in mid lane and didn't have concerns about his physical portion of q this item isn't an issue for him.
Oh, so Riot made another item that gives a hyperefficient amount of killing power because they can't be assed to just let junglers have income, and it turns out now people are running it in lane because efficient.
Seriously, you'd think they'd have realized by now they just have to let junglers have gold.
If you give junglers gold laners just take the jungle from them and get even more gold and levels.
You have to gate the gold gen behind inefficient items but also have to have the gold gen not be so much that a laner can't use it as a pseudo GP/10 by taking wraiths every minute. And because the gold gen can't be that much the item upgrades have to be efficient/cheap (especially since junglers need to have an early game presence or be kind of boring and just a "which champ farms faster" test).
Which is how we got to where we are. The problem is that balancing the strengths of the jungle items with the various jungle possibilities is hard and some champions (Ezreal) end up making particularly good use of them just because there are so many champions someone will (though it's always ezreal)
Gating more jungle power behind semi-consistent jungle farming is probably a decent idea. Give jungle items an inherent stacking mechanic that maxes out pretty quickly.
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Ezreal builds a jungle item and goes mid lane in 2015?
I still don't understand why the took out Magus to add this in. Adding it is fine, but taking out Magus was a huge nerf to more junglers than Runeglave buffs. Why can't we have both?
I mean, I ended up being forced to do it to make our team comp work, and I made it work exceptionally fucking well after the horribly early clears but...
I mean, I ended up being forced to do it to make our team comp work, and I made it work exceptionally fucking well after the horribly early clears but...
I don't think this is an actual thing.
No, I doubt it. His ganking is even worse than Shyvana, and unlike her he can't compensate by reducing the jungle to a scorched hellscape with clear speed.
Given the C9 League of Legends team’s performance this split and carefully evaluating the situation, Meteos has decided it would be best for the team to step down as our Jungler for Cloud9. We hope all our fans trust that this decision was his own and not made rashly. It was our aim to announce this on our own timeline but given the situation, we want to clear up any questions and concerns.
To be clear, Meteos is not leaving Cloud9. He will very much remain an important part of the team and will be working on another yet to be announced capacity. We also recognize that some of the language used so far mentioned an “emergency” update so we want to clarify that thankfully there is no health or family emergency. Meteos and the team very much appreciate the community’s concerns.
Will “Meteos” Hartman says “This was a difficult decision to make as clearly things on C9 have not been working out. I think stepping back for now and letting someone else jungle will help the team atmosphere and keep Cloud9 competitive in the LCS.”
“Meteos is a huge part of Cloud9 as well as one of the most talented players on our roster.” adds Jack Etienne, GM and Owner of Cloud9. “He is stepping down to be a sub for our LCS team but he will remain an active part of Cloud9.”
Coming out of retirement, Hai will be returning as shotcaller and jungler for this weekend’s LCS matches.
I dont think this will end well at all for C9. They'll have their shot calling back and I think its easier to concentrate on leading and making plays from the jungle. But I don't think hai is as good at jungling as Meteos ever was
That new thing where you can set Lux's E to just detonate on arrival. So good!
In related news, I need to stop forgetting I can play Lux. I just got a bunch of solo kills on an Azir, which normally doesn't really happen with me. Lux is great!
Detonating the E as it travels causes it to detonate when it gets to the target spot?
Yes, like the change they made to Gragas' barrel a while back. Great for people with high latency. Although those folks* should be playing clicker champs anyway.
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you sweet summer child
do u not think everyone else has been doing the same....
the guy with the terrible singed builds?
nothing changes
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just barely tho amirite
Just a touch.
As long as he's on my team.
If he's on the enemy team then it's fucking broken right now.
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Seriously, you'd think they'd have realized by now they just have to let junglers have gold.
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I got Twitch. Shame i will never play him as i hate being adc.
It's also a terrible jungle item because like 3 junglers would want it.
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1) wave clear. Albeit minimal. This is enhanced by the ability to take AoE smite in non assassin matchups for some good Wave clear. This shored up EZs prime weakness (shoved in super easy)
2) it turns the damage of the triggering auto attack to magic which lets it stack advantageously with voidstaff. This turns the entire mystic shot base and scaling damage to magic. And so is particularly strong on EZ who has a good portion of his damage eaten up as physical.
3) it's cheap (but not necessarily efficient for its full cost including the smite item) which means you can acquire it and move on.
Basically if EZ couldn't make use of smite well in mid lane and didn't have concerns about his physical portion of q this item isn't an issue for him.
If you give junglers gold laners just take the jungle from them and get even more gold and levels.
You have to gate the gold gen behind inefficient items but also have to have the gold gen not be so much that a laner can't use it as a pseudo GP/10 by taking wraiths every minute. And because the gold gen can't be that much the item upgrades have to be efficient/cheap (especially since junglers need to have an early game presence or be kind of boring and just a "which champ farms faster" test).
Which is how we got to where we are. The problem is that balancing the strengths of the jungle items with the various jungle possibilities is hard and some champions (Ezreal) end up making particularly good use of them just because there are so many champions someone will (though it's always ezreal)
League of Legends is just a great wheel
Those three: EZ, Diana, and Ekko?
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I got Rengar. Want to trade? :sad:
the fact that their turbogarbage jungle item broke a mid laner is hilarious.
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I mean, I ended up being forced to do it to make our team comp work, and I made it work exceptionally fucking well after the horribly early clears but...
I don't think this is an actual thing.
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Yeah. That's what I was witnessing. It was just fucking stupid. I couldn't believe this was a thing that was live.
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No, I doubt it. His ganking is even worse than Shyvana, and unlike her he can't compensate by reducing the jungle to a scorched hellscape with clear speed.
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what in the absolute fuck
I was never a huge fan of C9, but I'm sitting her shaking my head no thinking "not like this."
This is a Double Weekend, basically.
It's also Summer...
Joe's Stream.
Good point. Quadra weekend. Abandon all hope for ranked.
In related news, I need to stop forgetting I can play Lux. I just got a bunch of solo kills on an Azir, which normally doesn't really happen with me. Lux is great!