It'd probably be pretty neat combo'd with non-program ways of breaking subroutines but those are so rare I can't really think of one other than Always Be Running and clicking through bioroids
It'd probably be pretty neat combo'd with non-program ways of breaking subroutines but those are so rare I can't really think of one other than Always Be Running and clicking through bioroids
yeah Jak letting Adam click through two subroutines anywhere would be super cool...if Adam didn't desperately need to spend his entire influence on basic competencies :<
It'd probably be pretty neat combo'd with non-program ways of breaking subroutines but those are so rare I can't really think of one other than Always Be Running and clicking through bioroids
yeah Jak letting Adam click through two subroutines anywhere would be super cool...if Adam didn't desperately need to spend his entire influence on basic competencies :<
That's the frustrating thing about the mini-factions: the influence goes real fast and it seems like they're all still missing something afterwards.
Also, Jak doesn't get you around the forced run from Always Be Running...do you really want to run twice every turn? (Assuming you aren't loaded down with Security Testings and Desperados, obv)
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running often seems useful against horizontal decks but only if you can pay for it, and how do you do that out of adam
Random stupid thought of the day: using An Offer You Can't Refuse to mess with Film Critic dickheads.
Since the run happens on your turn, that means you're the active player and get to pick the order things resolve, right? That basically turns back on all that NBN stuff that triggers on access.
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Random stupid thought of the day: using An Offer You Can't Refuse to mess with Film Critic dickheads.
Since the run happens on your turn, that means you're the active player and get to pick the order things resolve, right? That basically turns back on all that NBN stuff that triggers on access.
1. Remember that Offer is centrals-only, so this pretty much only works on Archives (though maybe that's what you intended)
2. The order is all current player triggers, then all opponent triggers (not just "you pick"). So yes, you do get your 5 credits from Explode-a-palooza before it gets sucked away onto the Film Critic, though since you paid 4 for Offer, this doesn't seem that great...
I guess if the opponent hasn't scored any points yet, you could do something like Offer on Archives with 3x Explode-a-palooza for +11 credits, then double Punitive Counterstrike. :P
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Random stupid thought of the day: using An Offer You Can't Refuse to mess with Film Critic dickheads.
Since the run happens on your turn, that means you're the active player and get to pick the order things resolve, right? That basically turns back on all that NBN stuff that triggers on access.
1. Remember that Offer is centrals-only, so this pretty much only works on Archives (though maybe that's what you intended)
2. The order is all current player triggers, then all opponent triggers (not just "you pick"). So yes, you do get your 5 credits from Explode-a-palooza before it gets sucked away onto the Film Critic, though since you paid 4 for Offer, this doesn't seem that great...
I guess if the opponent hasn't scored any points yet, you could do something like Offer on Archives with 3x Explode-a-palooza for +11 credits, then double Punitive Counterstrike. :P
Clearly you run it out of harpsichord and then you're golden!
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drug dealer completely destroys government takeover decks
it's nice
Man, that's like the least enthusiastic I've ever been for a OP kit.
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There is so much to learn in this game!
I've been playing a Gabe deck that is built around working HQ hard and being as cheap as possible when doing it with a bit of R&D backup thrown in for good measure and my friend built a deck with the corp ID that starts with 10 credits and 1 bad publicity and is built entirely around flatlining the runner.
First game I open with Account Siphon and forgot about the tags (again) so I still had one when it went back to him and he scorched earth me for the win.
Second game I managed to last more than 1.5 rounds and it turned into a credit slugfest where I was getting as many credits as I could from every source I had (Gabe + Desperado, Bank Job, Sure Gamble, The resource that you can either put three credits on or take all credits) and we were fighting over traces, I was having to absorb snares and pay for tags until finally, finally I won by stealing agendas.
But seriously, we were dropping 8 or 10 credits on traces as a matter of course. It got ridiculous.
@cerberus btw man I went back to my Leela deck the last two weeks and made a few changes including adding an Atman and not gonna lie it's been kinda great so far.
Swapped out the dirty laundries for code busting and liking it. Still not sure about gang sign- it's either amazing or I never use it for anything worthwhile.
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Alt art Jackson makes me happy. Wish i could see the art!
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That's... not how it went down historically, though. Our Lord and Savior J-How delivered us from the hell of Noiseshop back in the day.
Granted, Noise has gotten enough tricks over time to be a threat again, but goddamn that deck was unfun to play against.
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for some reason I never thought it was terribly oppressive
I just looked at it as making the game a lot faster
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So how is the game going around here?
I'm getting back into it after being on hiatus since.. well.. since SanSan started coming out, honestly. SanSan burned me the hell out. This weekend, I played in a local tourney, getting 4th out of 10 with a score of 4-4. I played pretty much vanilla net-decked versions of Thug Life Leela and Remember the Titans Titan Transnational, which both fit into my playstyle incredibly well. We also started our league, and I went 1-1.
Everyone was surprised at how unbelievably different my decks were from the standards on show. Oh, sure, Gang Sign and Leela seems pretty obvious, but there are so many insane things that can play off of it.
I can't wait to get ahold of Adam and see if I can get him working. Sunny Lebeau is scary as all hell, but doesn't terribly fit my style.
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Played in the SWC finals of the ANRPC today! Only 12 people, which was surprisingly small, so 4 rounds cut to top 4. Placed 6th, sadly. Split games all day. Valencia, who was the star last time, went only 1-3 today. Had I won just one more of my games, I would have made the cut.
Lesson to learn - don't Queen's Gambit naked Astros.
Also, played against a new Power Shutdown deck - Titan with three Shipment from San San, Power Shutdown, Accelerated Diagnostics, and Vanity Project. Jackson on the table already. That was sad. A Gabe also managed to top-deck a winning 3-point agenda from my HB, with only 3 agendas left in about 25 cards. That's Netrunner!
Still, got a ton of alt-art IDs, a cool wooden RP ID, a femme bypass token (the lips), and some free sleeves, so not all was lost.
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I'm jealous of all you cool people getting cool prizes.
Here's the other game from regionals I mentioned. In a meta loaded with RP, the length of this set was certainly a standout, running counter to most sets going to time. https://youtu.be/U69FTQRS_qU
I do not score a Government Takeover. I first score High-Risk Investment, and then an NAPD with my 3rd pull.
Alright I think I have to admit the current jinteki.net build is the superior experience to OCTGN (server running out of space and RSI on ones clicking finger aside).
Being able to get someone who had never played netrunner to go from facebook comment->actual game in under a minute is pretty amazing. Though the shortcuts and targeting grammar of OCTGN means the knowledgeable can play faster having something enforce the timing structure and a 'click on game space/card, options for game space/card' interface model is just so much better for teaching.
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Man I feel like you guys are using a different Jinteki.net than me. It's SO laggy and it's really unforgiving with mistake correction. I was playing my Gagarin deck last week and wanted to rez Public Support at the end of the runner turn so it'd tick down. Well, due to lag, I clicked it, and then double clicked it not sure if it had been registered. Well it had and then it derezzed itself on the double click. I'm not 100% sure why anything should derez like that since there's no mechanical in game reason to derez anything like that, it should be a menu thing but whatever. When I rerez it, it added three more power counters. Okay, just move to hand and reinstall it. Nope, can't do. Well, what if I start my turn, reinstall, give myself an extra click, and remove a power counter. Nope, no way to manipulate the power counters as far as I can tell.
I agree the way it enforces things might be better for new people but man, that lag also makes games take a million times longer.
Man I feel like you guys are using a different Jinteki.net than me. It's SO laggy and it's really unforgiving with mistake correction. I was playing my Gagarin deck last week and wanted to rez Public Support at the end of the runner turn so it'd tick down. Well, due to lag, I clicked it, and then double clicked it not sure if it had been registered. Well it had and then it derezzed itself on the double click. I'm not 100% sure why anything should derez like that since there's no mechanical in game reason to derez anything like that, it should be a menu thing but whatever. When I rerez it, it added three more power counters. Okay, just move to hand and reinstall it. Nope, can't do. Well, what if I start my turn, reinstall, give myself an extra click, and remove a power counter. Nope, no way to manipulate the power counters as far as I can tell.
I agree the way it enforces things might be better for new people but man, that lag also makes games take a million times longer.
The server is in Europe I think which can have a big affect depending on their setup (octgn can lag like woah for me for the opposite reason of the servers being in NA), plus may have the advantage of playing at Europe user number times rather than America user number times with regard for lag.
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1 of All-Seeing I is ridiculous. Oh you're doing some Sunny Underworld Contacts/Data Folding shit? Goodbye to all of that. The Leela DLR WNP Paparazzi deck? Get that shit off my board. Just doing Wyldcakes Aesops Noise? Fuck that too.
Man I feel like you guys are using a different Jinteki.net than me. It's SO laggy and it's really unforgiving with mistake correction. I was playing my Gagarin deck last week and wanted to rez Public Support at the end of the runner turn so it'd tick down. Well, due to lag, I clicked it, and then double clicked it not sure if it had been registered. Well it had and then it derezzed itself on the double click. I'm not 100% sure why anything should derez like that since there's no mechanical in game reason to derez anything like that, it should be a menu thing but whatever. When I rerez it, it added three more power counters. Okay, just move to hand and reinstall it. Nope, can't do. Well, what if I start my turn, reinstall, give myself an extra click, and remove a power counter. Nope, no way to manipulate the power counters as far as I can tell.
This is my main beef with jinteki.net - it's basically impossible to correct misclicks and other miscellaneous fuck-ups, and it's not sufficiently idiot-proof (speaking as a colossal idiot) for that not to be a problem.
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Man I feel like you guys are using a different Jinteki.net than me. It's SO laggy and it's really unforgiving with mistake correction. I was playing my Gagarin deck last week and wanted to rez Public Support at the end of the runner turn so it'd tick down. Well, due to lag, I clicked it, and then double clicked it not sure if it had been registered. Well it had and then it derezzed itself on the double click. I'm not 100% sure why anything should derez like that since there's no mechanical in game reason to derez anything like that, it should be a menu thing but whatever. When I rerez it, it added three more power counters. Okay, just move to hand and reinstall it. Nope, can't do. Well, what if I start my turn, reinstall, give myself an extra click, and remove a power counter. Nope, no way to manipulate the power counters as far as I can tell.
This is my main beef with jinteki.net - it's basically impossible to correct misclicks and other miscellaneous fuck-ups, and it's not sufficiently idiot-proof (speaking as a colossal idiot) for that not to be a problem.
Yeah. That with the lag is basically my biggest problem since it prevents you from fixing lag errors. I think sure, in the long run, Jinteki is a better ideal. Some kind of MTGO interface that automatically enforces the rules for you.
Man I feel like you guys are using a different Jinteki.net than me. It's SO laggy and it's really unforgiving with mistake correction. I was playing my Gagarin deck last week and wanted to rez Public Support at the end of the runner turn so it'd tick down. Well, due to lag, I clicked it, and then double clicked it not sure if it had been registered. Well it had and then it derezzed itself on the double click. I'm not 100% sure why anything should derez like that since there's no mechanical in game reason to derez anything like that, it should be a menu thing but whatever. When I rerez it, it added three more power counters. Okay, just move to hand and reinstall it. Nope, can't do. Well, what if I start my turn, reinstall, give myself an extra click, and remove a power counter. Nope, no way to manipulate the power counters as far as I can tell.
On the moving to hand issue, you can drag things to the heap/archives first and then to the hand.
Agreed on the power counters though. OTH I've been scorched/net damaged so often on OCTGN by over eager opponents when I've had reactions - a looser model has problems as well .
It is my new goal to play All Seeing I and Closed Accounts on someone in the same turn.
Seeing your tag me opponent hit an information overload followed by a universal connectivity fee is da best feeling.
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So News Team works out of archives. I did not realize that. Despite taking two news teams for -1 point because I wasn't yet ready to go tag me. I still crushed this fool earlier. I think I'm in love with DLR Leela.
Yay for alt-art Jackson Howard finally! Boo for being a store championship kit (fairly limited supply) rather than being the door prize for game night kits (basically infinite supply). I need all the Jacksons (as does anyone else who wants to have more than one deck sleeved at a time)
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Yay for alt-art Jackson Howard finally! Boo for being a store championship kit (fairly limited supply) rather than being the door prize for game night kits (basically infinite supply). I need all the Jacksons (as does anyone else who wants to have more than one deck sleeved at a time)
Yeah that's pretty annoying. Making them basically infinite would be helpful for everyone.
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1 of All-Seeing I is ridiculous. Oh you're doing some Sunny Underworld Contacts/Data Folding shit? Goodbye to all of that. The Leela DLR WNP Paparazzi deck? Get that shit off my board. Just doing Wyldcakes Aesops Noise? Fuck that too.
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that's p niche though
yeah Jak letting Adam click through two subroutines anywhere would be super cool...if Adam didn't desperately need to spend his entire influence on basic competencies :<
That's the frustrating thing about the mini-factions: the influence goes real fast and it seems like they're all still missing something afterwards.
Since the run happens on your turn, that means you're the active player and get to pick the order things resolve, right? That basically turns back on all that NBN stuff that triggers on access.
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1. Remember that Offer is centrals-only, so this pretty much only works on Archives (though maybe that's what you intended)
2. The order is all current player triggers, then all opponent triggers (not just "you pick"). So yes, you do get your 5 credits from Explode-a-palooza before it gets sucked away onto the Film Critic, though since you paid 4 for Offer, this doesn't seem that great...
I guess if the opponent hasn't scored any points yet, you could do something like Offer on Archives with 3x Explode-a-palooza for +11 credits, then double Punitive Counterstrike. :P
Clearly you run it out of harpsichord and then you're golden!
it's nice
booooooooooooooooooo
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they've never spoiled store champ prizes before Worlds before
also that art is almost identical to the Kit stuff from last year
the hex pattern is the same, just blue instead of green
the plaque doesn't have any art on it, just text, and that would be a step back from last year
and they didn't show the alt-art card at all
e: actually turns out I'm wrong and it is legit
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/10/2/announcing-2016-store-championships/
alt-art card will be Jackson Howard
This is a play mat I will keep and use
Going to try and get a life time supply of deck boxes
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I've been playing a Gabe deck that is built around working HQ hard and being as cheap as possible when doing it with a bit of R&D backup thrown in for good measure and my friend built a deck with the corp ID that starts with 10 credits and 1 bad publicity and is built entirely around flatlining the runner.
First game I open with Account Siphon and forgot about the tags (again) so I still had one when it went back to him and he scorched earth me for the win.
Second game I managed to last more than 1.5 rounds and it turned into a credit slugfest where I was getting as many credits as I could from every source I had (Gabe + Desperado, Bank Job, Sure Gamble, The resource that you can either put three credits on or take all credits) and we were fighting over traces, I was having to absorb snares and pay for tags until finally, finally I won by stealing agendas.
But seriously, we were dropping 8 or 10 credits on traces as a matter of course. It got ridiculous.
@cerberus btw man I went back to my Leela deck the last two weeks and made a few changes including adding an Atman and not gonna lie it's been kinda great so far.
Swapped out the dirty laundries for code busting and liking it. Still not sure about gang sign- it's either amazing or I never use it for anything worthwhile.
I'm sure he's just giving Noise the middle finger.
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
noise counters j-ho, not the other way around
Granted, Noise has gotten enough tricks over time to be a threat again, but goddamn that deck was unfun to play against.
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I just looked at it as making the game a lot faster
I'm getting back into it after being on hiatus since.. well.. since SanSan started coming out, honestly. SanSan burned me the hell out. This weekend, I played in a local tourney, getting 4th out of 10 with a score of 4-4. I played pretty much vanilla net-decked versions of Thug Life Leela and Remember the Titans Titan Transnational, which both fit into my playstyle incredibly well. We also started our league, and I went 1-1.
Everyone was surprised at how unbelievably different my decks were from the standards on show. Oh, sure, Gang Sign and Leela seems pretty obvious, but there are so many insane things that can play off of it.
I can't wait to get ahold of Adam and see if I can get him working. Sunny Lebeau is scary as all hell, but doesn't terribly fit my style.
Lesson to learn - don't Queen's Gambit naked Astros.
Also, played against a new Power Shutdown deck - Titan with three Shipment from San San, Power Shutdown, Accelerated Diagnostics, and Vanity Project. Jackson on the table already. That was sad. A Gabe also managed to top-deck a winning 3-point agenda from my HB, with only 3 agendas left in about 25 cards. That's Netrunner!
Still, got a ton of alt-art IDs, a cool wooden RP ID, a femme bypass token (the lips), and some free sleeves, so not all was lost.
Here's the other game from regionals I mentioned. In a meta loaded with RP, the length of this set was certainly a standout, running counter to most sets going to time.
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
Being able to get someone who had never played netrunner to go from facebook comment->actual game in under a minute is pretty amazing. Though the shortcuts and targeting grammar of OCTGN means the knowledgeable can play faster having something enforce the timing structure and a 'click on game space/card, options for game space/card' interface model is just so much better for teaching.
I agree the way it enforces things might be better for new people but man, that lag also makes games take a million times longer.
The server is in Europe I think which can have a big affect depending on their setup (octgn can lag like woah for me for the opposite reason of the servers being in NA), plus may have the advantage of playing at Europe user number times rather than America user number times with regard for lag.
Also that aforementioned Leela deck is fun.
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This is my main beef with jinteki.net - it's basically impossible to correct misclicks and other miscellaneous fuck-ups, and it's not sufficiently idiot-proof (speaking as a colossal idiot) for that not to be a problem.
Yeah. That with the lag is basically my biggest problem since it prevents you from fixing lag errors. I think sure, in the long run, Jinteki is a better ideal. Some kind of MTGO interface that automatically enforces the rules for you.
On the moving to hand issue, you can drag things to the heap/archives first and then to the hand.
Agreed on the power counters though. OTH I've been scorched/net damaged so often on OCTGN by over eager opponents when I've had reactions - a looser model has problems as well
Seeing your tag me opponent hit an information overload followed by a universal connectivity fee is da best feeling.
Yeah that's pretty annoying. Making them basically infinite would be helpful for everyone.
how do you get the tag?