Theres the trailer this movie needed. Really good stuff.
Still worried since Gareth Edwards hasn't had a film yet that won me over 100% but visually, it looks fantastic.
If anything, this movie looks like it will look amazing all the way through.
Oh I'm sure thats guaranteed.
Edwards seems to have a flair for big special effects heavy scenes if Godzilla is anything to go by. Its just more the human drama I'm worried about and being bored to tears by any scene without any action.
Yeah, that's the fear. Is this Pacific Rim or Saving Private Ryan?
Your fear is that it is either one really good movie or another really good movie?
i guess it wouldn't annoy me how much Vader is in this as long as they don't erase from A New Hope the concept that Vader was basically a goon who was subject to orders of someone Not The Emperor
Theres the trailer this movie needed. Really good stuff.
Still worried since Gareth Edwards hasn't had a film yet that won me over 100% but visually, it looks fantastic.
If anything, this movie looks like it will look amazing all the way through.
Oh I'm sure thats guaranteed.
Edwards seems to have a flair for big special effects heavy scenes if Godzilla is anything to go by. Its just more the human drama I'm worried about and being bored to tears by any scene without any action.
Yeah, that's the fear. Is this Pacific Rim or Saving Private Ryan?
Your fear is that it is either one really good movie or another really good movie?
Well the relative qualities of the movies aren't the point.
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i bet vader only shows up for like 15 seconds, which is a good thing
There's really only two ways to approach Vader in this film: as the Sword of Damocles for the villain or as the Minotaur in the Labyrinth for the heroes. In the first, he hangs around menacingly, or is talked about more than seen, always in terms of what he'll do if the villain fails, and it ultimately pays off with him murdering the shit out of the villain at the end. In the second, the heroes have to complete their final mission while avoiding him, and when things go pear shaped (which they have to otherwise you have a dull climax) it's either because of him or it allows him to catch up with them and nearly undo all their hard work. You could work both of these approaches into the film, but that would require overexposing Vader. They'll probably do one or the other.
The first option seems like kind of a waste. You can imply the bad guy will have bad things happen to him if he fails without shoving Vader in there; it ultimately amounts to a fanservice cameo. The other is also fanservicey, but it at least includes the option of Vader being a genuine threat to the heroes, and maybe reclaiming some of his lost prestige as one of pop culture's preeminent villains.
I think they'll go with the latter personally.
Keeping him close to the Rogue 1 squad sets him up to intercept the Princess in ANH after she receives the plans, because it's Vader's job to keep the plans safe.
It would seem to flow better that way than to have him menacing the Villain who loses the plans and then somehow it's Vader job to recover them.
The second also just has more emotional impact. Imagine if the villain was killed not by Vader, but some other Imperial stooge. It's satisfying that the villain got his comeuppance, but there's no emotional connection to it, like there might be if the heroes were the ones to personally defeat him. Vader stalking and winnowing down the supporting cast would have emotional impact, because he's threatening and destroying the characters you've come to care about over the course of the movie.
i bet vader only shows up for like 15 seconds, which is a good thing
There's really only two ways to approach Vader in this film: as the Sword of Damocles for the villain or as the Minotaur in the Labyrinth for the heroes. In the first, he hangs around menacingly, or is talked about more than seen, always in terms of what he'll do if the villain fails, and it ultimately pays off with him murdering the shit out of the villain at the end. In the second, the heroes have to complete their final mission while avoiding him, and when things go pear shaped (which they have to otherwise you have a dull climax) it's either because of him or it allows him to catch up with them and nearly undo all their hard work. You could work both of these approaches into the film, but that would require overexposing Vader. They'll probably do one or the other.
The first option seems like kind of a waste. You can imply the bad guy will have bad things happen to him if he fails without shoving Vader in there; it ultimately amounts to a fanservice cameo. The other is also fanservicey, but it at least includes the option of Vader being a genuine threat to the heroes, and maybe reclaiming some of his lost prestige as one of pop culture's preeminent villains.
I think they'll go with the latter personally.
Keeping him close to the Rogue 1 squad sets him up to intercept the Princess in ANH after she receives the plans, because it's Vader's job to keep the plans safe.
It would seem to flow better that way than to have him menacing the Villain who loses the plans and then somehow it's Vader job to recover them.
The second also just has more emotional impact. Imagine if the villain was killed not by Vader, but some other Imperial stooge. It's satisfying that the villain got his comeuppance, but there's no emotional connection to it, like there might be if the heroes were the ones to personally defeat him. Vader stalking and winnowing down the supporting cast would have emotional impact, because he's threatening and destroying the characters you've come to care about over the course of the movie.
They steal the plans in the first five minutes of the movie. The rest of the movie is basically just a recreation of Alien, but with Vader as the Xenomorph.
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that new trailer was dope though the music was a little generic
i bet vader only shows up for like 15 seconds, which is a good thing
There's really only two ways to approach Vader in this film: as the Sword of Damocles for the villain or as the Minotaur in the Labyrinth for the heroes. In the first, he hangs around menacingly, or is talked about more than seen, always in terms of what he'll do if the villain fails, and it ultimately pays off with him murdering the shit out of the villain at the end. In the second, the heroes have to complete their final mission while avoiding him, and when things go pear shaped (which they have to otherwise you have a dull climax) it's either because of him or it allows him to catch up with them and nearly undo all their hard work. You could work both of these approaches into the film, but that would require overexposing Vader. They'll probably do one or the other.
The first option seems like kind of a waste. You can imply the bad guy will have bad things happen to him if he fails without shoving Vader in there; it ultimately amounts to a fanservice cameo. The other is also fanservicey, but it at least includes the option of Vader being a genuine threat to the heroes, and maybe reclaiming some of his lost prestige as one of pop culture's preeminent villains.
I think they'll go with the latter personally.
Keeping him close to the Rogue 1 squad sets him up to intercept the Princess in ANH after she receives the plans, because it's Vader's job to keep the plans safe.
It would seem to flow better that way than to have him menacing the Villain who loses the plans and then somehow it's Vader job to recover them.
The second also just has more emotional impact. Imagine if the villain was killed not by Vader, but some other Imperial stooge. It's satisfying that the villain got his comeuppance, but there's no emotional connection to it, like there might be if the heroes were the ones to personally defeat him. Vader stalking and winnowing down the supporting cast would have emotional impact, because he's threatening and destroying the characters you've come to care about over the course of the movie.
They steal the plans in the first five minutes of the movie. The rest of the movie is basically just a recreation of Turner and Hooch, but with Vader as Hooch.
i bet vader only shows up for like 15 seconds, which is a good thing
There's really only two ways to approach Vader in this film: as the Sword of Damocles for the villain or as the Minotaur in the Labyrinth for the heroes. In the first, he hangs around menacingly, or is talked about more than seen, always in terms of what he'll do if the villain fails, and it ultimately pays off with him murdering the shit out of the villain at the end. In the second, the heroes have to complete their final mission while avoiding him, and when things go pear shaped (which they have to otherwise you have a dull climax) it's either because of him or it allows him to catch up with them and nearly undo all their hard work. You could work both of these approaches into the film, but that would require overexposing Vader. They'll probably do one or the other.
The first option seems like kind of a waste. You can imply the bad guy will have bad things happen to him if he fails without shoving Vader in there; it ultimately amounts to a fanservice cameo. The other is also fanservicey, but it at least includes the option of Vader being a genuine threat to the heroes, and maybe reclaiming some of his lost prestige as one of pop culture's preeminent villains.
I think they'll go with the latter personally.
Keeping him close to the Rogue 1 squad sets him up to intercept the Princess in ANH after she receives the plans, because it's Vader's job to keep the plans safe.
It would seem to flow better that way than to have him menacing the Villain who loses the plans and then somehow it's Vader job to recover them.
The second also just has more emotional impact. Imagine if the villain was killed not by Vader, but some other Imperial stooge. It's satisfying that the villain got his comeuppance, but there's no emotional connection to it, like there might be if the heroes were the ones to personally defeat him. Vader stalking and winnowing down the supporting cast would have emotional impact, because he's threatening and destroying the characters you've come to care about over the course of the movie.
They steal the plans in the first five minutes of the movie. The rest of the movie is basically just a recreation of Turner and Hooch, but with Vader as Hooch.
They steal the plans in the first five minutes of the movie. The rest of the movie is basically just a recreation of Thelma and Louise, but with Vader as Louise
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I don't like that Thrawn. It's part the art style, part presentation. Thrawn is a solid, practical military commander. He does flourish a little bit but he is not melodrama obvious villain voice.
I still want Pallaeon; totally generic imperial commander who actually acts like a real life military officer and advances to Grand Admiral because he's competent.
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Vader's going to speak, I'd bet, the JEJ announcement aside. Maybe if we hadn't heard Vader in Sith, I could see R:1 holding off and keeping it so his first lines of the saga are, "Where are those transmissions you intercepted? What have you done with those plan?" But now I think it makes sense for him to speak a bit and help with the lead in to IV. Also it would be totally awesome, and everything about R:1 feels like a bunch of Star Wars geeks sitting around after Empire or Jedi came out and going, "man, wouldn't it be sweet if..."
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I fully expect the end of the film to be
the last surviving one or two team members just barely make it to a transmitter or something and get the plans off, turn around and Vader is there. Cut to Corellian Blockade Runner, woman with brown hair and a white dress, face unseen. "Ambassador, there is a transmission coming in for you" CREDITS
the last surviving one or two team members just barely make it to a transmitter or something and get the plans off, turn around and Vader is there. Cut to Corellian Blockade Runner, woman with brown hair and a white dress, face unseen. "Ambassador, there is a transmission coming in for you" CREDITS
It wouldn't be a transmitter, I don't think the Star Wars universe has that kind of tech.
the last surviving one or two team members just barely make it to a transmitter or something and get the plans off, turn around and Vader is there. Cut to Corellian Blockade Runner, woman with brown hair and a white dress, face unseen. "Ambassador, there is a transmission coming in for you" CREDITS
It wouldn't be a transmitter, I don't think the Star Wars universe has that kind of tech.
VADER: Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.
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VADER: Where are those transmissions you intercepted? WHAT have you DONE with those plans?
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Yeah, the reason they didn't just transmit the data to the rebel base was because A: they were being tracked and B: they didn't want to send a planet destroying super weapon to the star system with their base.
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I really like the shots right at the beginning and at about 2:15.
...That would make more sense.
I'll be on my way.
Your fear is that it is either one really good movie or another really good movie?
Well the relative qualities of the movies aren't the point.
The second also just has more emotional impact. Imagine if the villain was killed not by Vader, but some other Imperial stooge. It's satisfying that the villain got his comeuppance, but there's no emotional connection to it, like there might be if the heroes were the ones to personally defeat him. Vader stalking and winnowing down the supporting cast would have emotional impact, because he's threatening and destroying the characters you've come to care about over the course of the movie.
They steal the plans in the first five minutes of the movie. The rest of the movie is basically just a recreation of Alien, but with Vader as the Xenomorph.
I've been meaning to read that Vader comic, it was the only one of the new batch of comics that seemed interesting
But Hooch is crazy.
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It's really good.
Gillen somehow makes Vader sympathetic and the most terrifying he's ever been at once. Also, there's a varied and likable supporting cast!
Vader kills most of them.
Why I fear the ocean.
Like Thrawn, apparently.
Holy fuck, that's a good Thrawn.
I still want Pallaeon; totally generic imperial commander who actually acts like a real life military officer and advances to Grand Admiral because he's competent.
Yes, through issue 19 right now.
Or a few lines either way would be awesome
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be a bit weird to end the movie with the star wars logo instead of start it
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I'd kinda expect that to actually happen with 30 minutes left in the film, and the last part the Rogues being crushed.
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While I'm sure Rogue One is going to do absolutely bang-up at the box office
It is gonna be nowhere near the event that Episode VII was
VADER: Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.
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VADER: Where are those transmissions you intercepted? WHAT have you DONE with those plans?
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