you have to volunteer for special forces qualifying courses after you have already enlisted and been through boot camp and your technical school. the army offers an 18X airborne ranger enlistment contract but it takes quite a bit to qualify for that, and most people don't. to volunteer for special forces qualifying you have to have an MOS in the combat arms field.
also, you're a bitch. just throwing that out there.
Guys dont be too hard on him, he hasn't really formed a real decision, more a "hey this might not be a bad idea" and heres stuff that pushes me in that direction.
Seriously, one day he might just make it, and on acceptance into his regiment be all like "Huzzah". Or he might not.
Guys dont be too hard on him, he hasn't really formed a real decision, more a "hey this might not be a bad idea" and heres stuff that pushes me in that direction.
Seriously, one day he might just make it, and on acceptance into his regiment be all like "Huzzah". Or he might not.
Remember where and why America's Army got made?
Yeah but he came into se and then called everyone faggots when he didn't get the answers he was expecting. i mean the answers he got, he should have expected, since he's in se.
the new army commercials piss me off. some dudes are playing some shitty ass war game with the most outdated graphics. one of the in-game soldiers turns around and taps the screen.
"hey you wanna see some real action?"
yeah, okay, sir. i love shooting dudes in this video game. i'll totally go join the army and shoot dudes in real life.
1. claxton really wants to see just how good he can be.
2. claxton has friends from high school who went to college and started doing drugs. He doesn't want to be like them.
3. If claxton doesn't join the military, our country may fall, and then his friend will have died in vain. He doesn't want that.
Is claxton:
A) Some kind of time-traveling refugee from 1956; A goddamned moron;
C) The larval stage of that one-legged schizophrenic drunk with the cardboard sign (VETERAN -- PLEASE HELP -- GOD BLESS) who asks you for change outside the mini-mart?
In basic training they make you shower with other dudes. And those dudes will all be looking at your junk and stuff. You don't want some muscle-bound guy looking at your junk after a hard day of doing push-ups and other manly man things, do you?
However God uses me as a sick form of entertainment for him and his drunken buddies.
So I couldn't. Would have gone Marines, because fuck, if you're gonna go for it.... go all the way. I could have been a vacant-eyed drunk by now doing pushups in the sun and yelling at my kids.
Longbauh, I thought you were in, and driving submarines, what happened? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Also, as far as Special Forces and whatnot. Lets clear some stuff up
Only the Army has Special Forces. Those green beret wearin' fellers? Those are Special forces. Direct Action, training indigenous forces, counter terrorism, etc.
Everything else in the US is Special Operational Forces
Navy has SEALs, UDT, and a few others under Naval special warfare group, I believe.
Airforce has Special Tactics teams. Pararescue Jumpers, who jump out of planes to do Combat Search and Rescue, killing anyone who gets in their way. Combat Controllers who go in first to direct air traffic from the ground. Combat weathermen who do a similar deal, but with weather involved, Tactical Air Control Parties, which call in air strikes with fancy GPS gizmos and what not
Marines only recently got a unit under the Special Ops Command. But their elite of the elite is force recon.
As far as going striaght in, it can be done, if you're superman himself. Or batman. A lot of guys who have been soldiers for years, and are in amazing shape, go through ranger/special forces school, and still wash out. The guy who is coming straight out of basic training doesnt have a good chance. If you fail selection, dont expect to just be able to go home. Chances are, you'd be sent to Infantry or whatever your branche's grunt backbone job is. And you'd be stuck there for a few years.
Im sure I probably got some fact or detail wrong, but thats the jist of it.
Basically what's going to happen is when you get to your unit, you'll probably have two SF "recruiters" come through that fiscal year and see who's interested in joining SF. You've got to have a minimum GT score (that's part of your ASVAB that determines what jobs you can do) of 110 or so, and they're going to run you through the PT test on the 17-21 columns, and you have to make it in the 60 or 70 percentile, which is something like 56 push ups, 65+ situps, and a 2 mile run of around 14-15 minutes or so. I'm not sure if they still do the combat swim, as its been a while.
And that's probably the easiest thing you'll do, and that's no hyperbole.
After that, its off to sunny Fort Bragg to Special Forces Selection, where you'll play in the woods a bit and they'll test you to see if you're even trainable as Special Forces. Basically, its three weeks of land navigation, obstacle courses, and hiking through the thick ass woods of Carolina, up and down hills with everything you own on your back, ending with a 40 mile cross country hike that has to be completed in two days. A buddy of mine went through it, and his calluses split open on his feet. What'd he do? Super glued them back together and kept on walking.
And even if you pass, they can still say you need some "seasoning" and tell you to come back in a month or two.
And if you complete it, congrats! That was the second easiest thing you're going to go through. You'll go back to your unit and wait for a Q Course date before you start anywhere from 8 months to 2 years of training, depending on your specialty.
So yeah, if you think that because you play DDR you've got the physical conditioning (don't laugh! Its been used before on these boards!) to do SF and go through Selection, you're kidding yourself. Best thing you can do is learn to walk far distances with a load on your back.
Um thats it for a fitness test? Cos thats kind of slack. I assume most people get past that easy?
Australian Infantry is held to higher standards than that at the min.
I guess though, you guys have the resources to take a lot more in and build the fitness, our course doesn't allow for that in the schedule, so you have to be fit enough going in.
I just had a mate wash out of SAS selection. 100 in his class, he got 3/4 of the way through and there were only 5 left at that stage.
EDIT: Just to give everyone an idea, my daily routine is 3x 45 pushups, 2x 100 situps, and a 3km run in under 12 mins. Takes about 45mins-1hour. When I go to RMC it will be much worse.
Um thats it for a fitness test? Cos thats kind of slack. I assume most people get past that easy?
Australian Infantry is held to higher standards than that at the min.
I guess though, you guys have the resources to take a lot more in and build the fitness, our course doesn't allow for that in the schedule, so you have to be fit enough going in.
I just had a mate wash out of SAS selection. 100 in his class, he got 3/4 of the way through and there were only 5 left at that stage.
EDIT: Just to give everyone an idea, my daily routine is 3x 45 pushups, 2x 100 situps, and a 3km run in under 12 mins. Takes about 45mins-1hour. When I go to RMC it will be much worse.
That PT test is just to get into the door.
You can do push ups all day, but the ability to bear a load is much more prized. I knew plenty of skinny dudes who could score 300/300 on a PT test but when it came to rucking they fell out because they couldn't carry their kit.
So yeah, I'd imagine that's why they're kinda "meh" about the PT test part of it.
Yeah core strength is what carries the load. Thats your abs and that region.
Situps, crunches and reverse crunches help a lot there.
I'm just a bit surprised that they will include "build up fitness" time into a testing period.
Hmm? Where did you take "build up fitness" from that?
I know the guys who left for Selection from my unit were able to march 30 miles in a heavy snow with a 70 pound ruck up in Alaska before they felt they were ready.
Its pretty much a given that you're going to get stronger, but if you're not at Level X of conditioning, you have no business being there and its going to show.
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also, you're a bitch. just throwing that out there.
We gave honest answers, and this "hopeful" stammers out some 3rd grader whining.
Seriously, one day he might just make it, and on acceptance into his regiment be all like "Huzzah". Or he might not.
Remember where and why America's Army got made?
Yeah but he came into se and then called everyone faggots when he didn't get the answers he was expecting. i mean the answers he got, he should have expected, since he's in se.
#1. Slit your wrist, and drain one pint of blood from your arm into a clear plastic container.
#2. Visit your local zoo or local African Wilderness.
#3. Proceed to cover your head with your blood.
#4. Flail your arms wildly.
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But I think this thread should be locked, I got myself 2 infractions in the sicko thread, and I don't really want to be jailed for offtopic
"hey you wanna see some real action?"
yeah, okay, sir. i love shooting dudes in this video game. i'll totally go join the army and shoot dudes in real life.
They show some soldiers in training and have a voice-over.
Basic stuff, but it works.
They'll probably kick you out too.
You should just give up and start drinking now. It'll save you some time.
1. claxton really wants to see just how good he can be.
2. claxton has friends from high school who went to college and started doing drugs. He doesn't want to be like them.
3. If claxton doesn't join the military, our country may fall, and then his friend will have died in vain. He doesn't want that.
Is claxton:
A) Some kind of time-traveling refugee from 1956;
A goddamned moron;
C) The larval stage of that one-legged schizophrenic drunk with the cardboard sign (VETERAN -- PLEASE HELP -- GOD BLESS) who asks you for change outside the mini-mart?
In 9 days I go, and you wont hear from me again for at least 6 months :P
EDIT: OMG a time traveler! But this isn't the Dr Who thread?
and sponge bullets
Instead I'm looking into being a fireman. Still not sure if I can be one. Oh well, I still have a buttload of time to decide on that one.
But I'll opt for OP is a retard.
However God uses me as a sick form of entertainment for him and his drunken buddies.
So I couldn't. Would have gone Marines, because fuck, if you're gonna go for it.... go all the way. I could have been a vacant-eyed drunk by now doing pushups in the sun and yelling at my kids.
There's an application.
Also, as far as Special Forces and whatnot. Lets clear some stuff up
Only the Army has Special Forces. Those green beret wearin' fellers? Those are Special forces. Direct Action, training indigenous forces, counter terrorism, etc.
Everything else in the US is Special Operational Forces
Navy has SEALs, UDT, and a few others under Naval special warfare group, I believe.
Airforce has Special Tactics teams. Pararescue Jumpers, who jump out of planes to do Combat Search and Rescue, killing anyone who gets in their way. Combat Controllers who go in first to direct air traffic from the ground. Combat weathermen who do a similar deal, but with weather involved, Tactical Air Control Parties, which call in air strikes with fancy GPS gizmos and what not
Marines only recently got a unit under the Special Ops Command. But their elite of the elite is force recon.
As far as going striaght in, it can be done, if you're superman himself. Or batman. A lot of guys who have been soldiers for years, and are in amazing shape, go through ranger/special forces school, and still wash out. The guy who is coming straight out of basic training doesnt have a good chance. If you fail selection, dont expect to just be able to go home. Chances are, you'd be sent to Infantry or whatever your branche's grunt backbone job is. And you'd be stuck there for a few years.
Im sure I probably got some fact or detail wrong, but thats the jist of it.
Yeah, pretty much.
Basically what's going to happen is when you get to your unit, you'll probably have two SF "recruiters" come through that fiscal year and see who's interested in joining SF. You've got to have a minimum GT score (that's part of your ASVAB that determines what jobs you can do) of 110 or so, and they're going to run you through the PT test on the 17-21 columns, and you have to make it in the 60 or 70 percentile, which is something like 56 push ups, 65+ situps, and a 2 mile run of around 14-15 minutes or so. I'm not sure if they still do the combat swim, as its been a while.
And that's probably the easiest thing you'll do, and that's no hyperbole.
After that, its off to sunny Fort Bragg to Special Forces Selection, where you'll play in the woods a bit and they'll test you to see if you're even trainable as Special Forces. Basically, its three weeks of land navigation, obstacle courses, and hiking through the thick ass woods of Carolina, up and down hills with everything you own on your back, ending with a 40 mile cross country hike that has to be completed in two days. A buddy of mine went through it, and his calluses split open on his feet. What'd he do? Super glued them back together and kept on walking.
And even if you pass, they can still say you need some "seasoning" and tell you to come back in a month or two.
And if you complete it, congrats! That was the second easiest thing you're going to go through. You'll go back to your unit and wait for a Q Course date before you start anywhere from 8 months to 2 years of training, depending on your specialty.
So yeah, if you think that because you play DDR you've got the physical conditioning (don't laugh! Its been used before on these boards!) to do SF and go through Selection, you're kidding yourself. Best thing you can do is learn to walk far distances with a load on your back.
Australian Infantry is held to higher standards than that at the min.
I guess though, you guys have the resources to take a lot more in and build the fitness, our course doesn't allow for that in the schedule, so you have to be fit enough going in.
I just had a mate wash out of SAS selection. 100 in his class, he got 3/4 of the way through and there were only 5 left at that stage.
EDIT: Just to give everyone an idea, my daily routine is 3x 45 pushups, 2x 100 situps, and a 3km run in under 12 mins. Takes about 45mins-1hour. When I go to RMC it will be much worse.
That PT test is just to get into the door.
You can do push ups all day, but the ability to bear a load is much more prized. I knew plenty of skinny dudes who could score 300/300 on a PT test but when it came to rucking they fell out because they couldn't carry their kit.
So yeah, I'd imagine that's why they're kinda "meh" about the PT test part of it.
Situps, crunches and reverse crunches help a lot there.
I'm just a bit surprised that they will include "build up fitness" time into a testing period.
What if he is a black?
Hmm? Where did you take "build up fitness" from that?
I know the guys who left for Selection from my unit were able to march 30 miles in a heavy snow with a 70 pound ruck up in Alaska before they felt they were ready.
Its pretty much a given that you're going to get stronger, but if you're not at Level X of conditioning, you have no business being there and its going to show.