yes it exists in that it was created by the first shape and treated as an existence by the first.
j you are remarkably good at this
Are all shapes which are not the first shape created by that first shape? Or can there be the first shape and other shapes which are not created by that first shape?
Both. (It's not words, so it's not logic, so it doesn't have to be consistent. It is both.)
Do you have a preference for one over the other?
Wow. Shit. you are making me truly think now. I don't know. Give me a few minutes to see if I can work it out.
The first is what we experience. The second is what we assume, hope and believe to be true.
Both of these are meta shapes encompassing the two questions.
I actually had to draw this out on a piece of paper.
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Pods, it sounds like you've had a terrible English lit experience and that is a shame. My university's English department was full of crazy, hilarious profs who were either paternal and warm or loopy and entertaining, but they were all very much concerned with their students' welfare and constantly worked to make your degree easier or more interesting. Of course this is coloured by my grad school experience, where getting to know profs only intensifies their positive aspects.
The rest were young guys with their PhDs who I would actually hang out and drink with, and they taught amazing courses like "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" and were very charming and funny.
The prof who taught my Marxism course has Tourette's - or so he claims, he might be lying, he's weird like that - and he wears baggy suits with sneakers, inhales sibilantly as punctuation, and gestures violently. He has a combination of a Texan and Canadian Maritime accent that sounds absolutely bizarre. He is also a genius.
the prof who taught my States of Nature course is six foot four, has a voice like an opera singer, wears tweed jackets with elbow patches, and walks around orating with one arm behind his back while the other gestures. He has a lexical knowledge of Milton and the Bible, and his office doesn't have room for chairs because there's so many books. So you sit on a pile of books, quite literally, and he basically dotes on you like an uncle, and then you see him walking with his tiny blond daughter and it is adorable.
yes it exists in that it was created by the first shape and treated as an existence by the first.
j you are remarkably good at this
Are all shapes which are not the first shape created by that first shape? Or can there be the first shape and other shapes which are not created by that first shape?
Both. (It's not words, so it's not logic, so it doesn't have to be consistent. It is both.)
Do you have a preference for one over the other?
Wow. Shit. you are making me truly think now. I don't know. Give me a few minutes to see if I can work it out.
The first is what we experience. The second is what we assume, hope and believe to be true.
Both of these are meta shapes encompassing the two questions.
I actually had to draw this out on a piece of paper.
Do we experience them as having been created? Or do we experience them as existing and assume that they were either created or exist on their own?
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Trying to visualize infinity sends chills up my spine.
I know isn't it awesome!
Do you also get that kind of focal point of numbness near the middle front of your brain?
I get this from trying to understand how complicated systems interact, which I pretty much try to do a lot.
I don't try to understand infinity because I don't have anything to start from and the question doesn't interest me. Individual differences?
Mine is primarily spatial, visual images happens as an afterthought.
IT's hard to describe "walking to the fridge" without the walk, the fridge or the person doing it. But I can think of it effortlessly. I imagine a visual point moving to the fridge. This point isn't me, it is a replay of the experience of gonig to the fridge, but it doesn't have to be me. Nor does the fridge have to be my fridge or the locomotion be walking.
And now because I have that I can mix it up. Okay I'm two foot tall. Wow fridges are big.
Okay go back now the fridge is running away from me. Perhaps indiana jones is inside and there is a nuclear explosion behind me.
Okay, now I'm flying towards it.
Now it's a cat.
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I tend to work with a lot of sensations, as well...
It's strangely common for me to imagine the tickling of flames erupting from my palm and flowing along the path I will, or my flesh hardening into living metal, numb and sleek.
I do plenty of the visual thing as far as movement goes... really I kind of waffle between things.
You know how some people look up, down, or to the side when they think, depending on whether they're audio, visual, or whatever in how they remember things?
Pods, it sounds like you've had a terrible English lit experience and that is a shame.
Probably. My philosophy experience has more than made up for it, and I'd rather have better philosophy profs than lit profs, because I find that a teacher is more necessary for the former than the latter.
Also, "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" sounds, almost creepily, like a class out of the Ennett Quadrivium.
Soon enough you will that joke, and only then can we be friends.
I tend to work with a lot of sensations, as well...
It's strangely common for me to imagine the tickling of flames erupting from my palm and flowing along the path I will, or my flesh hardening into living metal, numb and sleek.
I do plenty of the visual thing as far as movement goes... really I kind of waffle between things.
You know how some people look up, down, or to the side when they think, depending on whether they're audio, visual, or whatever in how they remember things?
I roll my eyes.
tend to do it mostly upwards? as in north but anywhere from north east to north west?
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Pods, it sounds like you've had a terrible English lit experience and that is a shame.
Probably. My philosophy experience has more than made up for it, and I'd rather have better philosophy profs than lit profs, because I find that a teacher is more necessary for the former than the latter.
Also, "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" sounds, almost creepily, like a class out of the Ennett Quadrivium.
Soon enough you will that joke, and only then can we be friends.
isn't that a medieval principle of education or something
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Pods, it sounds like you've had a terrible English lit experience and that is a shame.
Probably. My philosophy experience has more than made up for it, and I'd rather have better philosophy profs than lit profs, because I find that a teacher is more necessary for the former than the latter.
Also, "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" sounds, almost creepily, like a class out of the Ennett Quadrivium.
Soon enough you will that joke, and only then can we be friends.
isn't that a medieval principle of education or something
Got robbed at work tonight by a couple of dudes with a bat or a pipe or something
Occupational hazard I suppose
FML
Going to get exceptionally drunk and maybe find a hooker or something, fuck it, I'm on borrowed time at this point anyway
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London accidentally burned to the ground?
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Hi5 Jewcar me too.
That visual mode can be fractionated up into a spatial component and a visual component and it's likely there will be individual differences in which is used primarily.
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yes it exists in that it was created by the first shape and treated as an existence by the first.
j you are remarkably good at this
Are all shapes which are not the first shape created by that first shape? Or can there be the first shape and other shapes which are not created by that first shape?
Both. (It's not words, so it's not logic, so it doesn't have to be consistent. It is both.)
Do you have a preference for one over the other?
Wow. Shit. you are making me truly think now. I don't know. Give me a few minutes to see if I can work it out.
The first is what we experience. The second is what we assume, hope and believe to be true.
Both of these are meta shapes encompassing the two questions.
I actually had to draw this out on a piece of paper.
Do we experience them as having been created? Or do we experience them as existing and assume that they were either created or exist on their own?
(1: Do we experience them as having been created? Answer = Yes.)
(2: Do we experience them as existing and assume they were either created or exist on their own? Answer = Yes).
((1 AND 2) AND (1 OR 2))
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Pods, it sounds like you've had a terrible English lit experience and that is a shame.
Probably. My philosophy experience has more than made up for it, and I'd rather have better philosophy profs than lit profs, because I find that a teacher is more necessary for the former than the latter.
Also, "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" sounds, almost creepily, like a class out of the Ennett Quadrivium.
Soon enough you will that joke, and only then can we be friends.
isn't that a medieval principle of education or something
yep. not to spoil any of the jokes in IJ, but there's a good deal of canada involved in IJ. Montreal is full of seperational eco-terrorists, and the canadians are all hyper intelligent and postmodern and teach (high school) classes like "The Economical is The Political is the Sexual: Pyschopathology of the Everyday Ideological" and "Prescriptivist Grammar and Politics."
IJ is scarely prophetic.
also, i think you and other folksy kids might like this song
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what the fuck
how do they get away with advertising this shit at 35 bucks
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Every day.
Every day I intend to go out.
I tend to feel hollow.
Yeah. I usually shower every day. But if it's a lazy Sunday and I'm just going to stay in all day then I usually won't.
The first is what we experience. The second is what we assume, hope and believe to be true.
Both of these are meta shapes encompassing the two questions.
I actually had to draw this out on a piece of paper.
Hey Elldren maybe we can help each other. :winky:
The rest were young guys with their PhDs who I would actually hang out and drink with, and they taught amazing courses like "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" and were very charming and funny.
The prof who taught my Marxism course has Tourette's - or so he claims, he might be lying, he's weird like that - and he wears baggy suits with sneakers, inhales sibilantly as punctuation, and gestures violently. He has a combination of a Texan and Canadian Maritime accent that sounds absolutely bizarre. He is also a genius.
the prof who taught my States of Nature course is six foot four, has a voice like an opera singer, wears tweed jackets with elbow patches, and walks around orating with one arm behind his back while the other gestures. He has a lexical knowledge of Milton and the Bible, and his office doesn't have room for chairs because there's so many books. So you sit on a pile of books, quite literally, and he basically dotes on you like an uncle, and then you see him walking with his tiny blond daughter and it is adorable.
Do we experience them as having been created? Or do we experience them as existing and assume that they were either created or exist on their own?
I get this from trying to understand how complicated systems interact, which I pretty much try to do a lot.
I don't try to understand infinity because I don't have anything to start from and the question doesn't interest me. Individual differences?
Mine is primarily spatial, visual images happens as an afterthought.
IT's hard to describe "walking to the fridge" without the walk, the fridge or the person doing it. But I can think of it effortlessly. I imagine a visual point moving to the fridge. This point isn't me, it is a replay of the experience of gonig to the fridge, but it doesn't have to be me. Nor does the fridge have to be my fridge or the locomotion be walking.
And now because I have that I can mix it up. Okay I'm two foot tall. Wow fridges are big.
Okay go back now the fridge is running away from me. Perhaps indiana jones is inside and there is a nuclear explosion behind me.
Okay, now I'm flying towards it.
Now it's a cat.
It's strangely common for me to imagine the tickling of flames erupting from my palm and flowing along the path I will, or my flesh hardening into living metal, numb and sleek.
I do plenty of the visual thing as far as movement goes... really I kind of waffle between things.
You know how some people look up, down, or to the side when they think, depending on whether they're audio, visual, or whatever in how they remember things?
I roll my eyes.
Please don't hurt yourself. Please please please.
Probably. My philosophy experience has more than made up for it, and I'd rather have better philosophy profs than lit profs, because I find that a teacher is more necessary for the former than the latter.
Also, "Postmodern Canadian Historiographical Fiction" sounds, almost creepily, like a class out of the Ennett Quadrivium.
Soon enough you will that joke, and only then can we be friends.
tend to do it mostly upwards? as in north but anywhere from north east to north west?
http://www.school-for-champions.com/communication/reading_eyes.htm
I got it a bit wrong.
Regardless, I tend roll my eyes when thinking.
isn't that a medieval principle of education or something
you'll find out quite soon
Got robbed at work tonight by a couple of dudes with a bat or a pipe or something
Occupational hazard I suppose
FML
Going to get exceptionally drunk and maybe find a hooker or something, fuck it, I'm on borrowed time at this point anyway
That visual mode can be fractionated up into a spatial component and a visual component and it's likely there will be individual differences in which is used primarily.
Didn't it?
!!!
Where do you work?
(1: Do we experience them as having been created? Answer = Yes.)
(2: Do we experience them as existing and assume they were either created or exist on their own? Answer = Yes).
((1 AND 2) AND (1 OR 2))
Liquor store. Nobody got hurt. Well, my lungs, after I chainsmoked half a pack in like half an hour.
May the Shwartz be with you; god bless
it's in infinite jest i guess?
yep. not to spoil any of the jokes in IJ, but there's a good deal of canada involved in IJ. Montreal is full of seperational eco-terrorists, and the canadians are all hyper intelligent and postmodern and teach (high school) classes like "The Economical is The Political is the Sexual: Pyschopathology of the Everyday Ideological" and "Prescriptivist Grammar and Politics."
IJ is scarely prophetic.
also, i think you and other folksy kids might like this song
http://www.dangerdanger.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/without-reasons-demo.mp3
I do not think that you can make claim 1. think of it this way:
You walk into a room and bang into a table.
Your experience is your banging into the table. your experience is not the table's coming to be.
what the fuck
how do they get away with advertising this shit at 35 bucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrENJ4EQjMY&feature=related
I don't know why
I think it's because there is no one to play with me
is
so
dumb
"Man, where the fuck did that table come from it popped out of nowhere! Goddam that hurt stupid table!"