I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
Using it a friend's save game, I found it useful in the castle for crowd control with monks. Blast at the kneecap level and you've got them all down on the ground for a couple seconds. Well-controlled bursts also allow for multiple staggering shots and/or headshots. I never sprayed, I always fired a shot at a time. And it was pretty damn awesome, to tlel the truth.
Of course, I still pawned it off to make room for the BB. Maybe one day I'll use it in a playthrough of my own.
I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
The TMP is really suited for stalling large crowds quickly I think.
It is also occasionally fun to use on lone people, just so you can fill them with 157 bullets before they die.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
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I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
The TMP is really suited for stalling large crowds quickly I think.
That is what I use incendiary grenades for.
It is fun to watch a big crowd of ganados do the OH FUCK IM ON FIRE dance.
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AbsoluteZero, I would just like to say, your sig is easily the best of the "Do not let Dr [somebody] touch your genitals" sigs.
I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
I like to think of it as a Blacktail that fires more than twice as fast, does more than half as much damage, and carries 250 rounds in a clip. Against single targets it's just as effective - shoot in the leg, suplex, knifey knifey. But against STRONG targets, it's much, much better IMO. Full automatic fire FTW.
I've been meaning to do a no-pistol TMP run, but have been too busy with other cube games. Maybe I'll try one out later.
I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
The TMP is really suited for stalling large crowds quickly I think.
That is what I use incendiary grenades for.
It is fun to watch a big crowd of ganados do the OH FUCK IM ON FIRE dance.
Yes, they are fun and effective, but still the TMP does nicely when the ganados are to spread out for incendiary grenades to work.
I honestly cannot figure out the use for the TMP. The power is low, the ammo is more scarce than handgun, and if you want to stagger an enemy for a physical attack you can do it with your freaking knife. There are plenty of times where the rifle, shotgun or Broken Butterfly are appropriate, and if not them I've got the good ole Red 9. TMP just never seems to fit in.
The TMP is best against crowds. It's really useful in situations where you want to hit lots of Ganados in the head/knees to set up a melee attack or want to knock them down, but don't want to make yourself vulnerable by getting close enough to use the knife. Also, it makes killing El Gigante much simpler. Ammo scarcity shouldn't be a concern unless you're spraying bullets instead of setting up head/knee shots.
I've been meaning to do a no-pistol TMP run, but have been too busy with other cube games. Maybe I'll try one out later.
The worst thing about the TMP? By the time a TMP-only run is a viable option, you probably already have the Chicago Typewriter. It's almost like taking the less powerful weapon on purpose.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
I’m almost done with my first play through and I was wondering something about the merchants. One my second play through will the first merchant sell all of the upgrades for the weapons?
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I wanna say that equipment is unlocked by game progress but upgrades are tied to specific merchants but I'm not sure...
The TMP and its ammo takes up valuable space that could be taken up by... well, shotgun shells.
I don't have the gamecube version. I actually have to keep track of my ammo. Having so many shotgun shells as to make them a space concern has never happened.
In any case, the TMP is free bullets. Free bullets are always good.
You can also get a fuckton of mileage out if by upgrading the capacity at times. All in all not necessary, but it has its uses. I also find it one of the more fun weapons.
I’m almost done with my first play through and I was wondering something about the merchants. One my second play through will the first merchant sell all of the upgrades for the weapons?
Yes, every merchant will have all the weapons and upgrades available on a second playthrough.
Oh man Oh man. Totally can't find my case for this anywhere! I could have sworn it was between the RE1 remake and mario sunshine. Could... have sworn. So antsy to play this again.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
I've been meaning to do a no-pistol TMP run, but have been too busy with other cube games. Maybe I'll try one out later.
The worst thing about the TMP? By the time a TMP-only run is a viable option, you probably already have the Chicago Typewriter. It's almost like taking the less powerful weapon on purpose.
I wasn't planning on going TMP-only, at least not the first time. Maybe the 'rapid fire' options from the firing range, so TMP/Shotgun and grenades or something. If you use it almost exclusively I'd immagine drops come fairly frequently.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
Personally, I tend to prefer using the rifle to just blow their heads off like the shield wasn't even there.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
Personally, I tend to prefer using the rifle to just blow their heads off like the shield wasn't even there.
If you're worried about conserving shotgun shells, you're going to be saving your rifle ammo for something more important than a single shield monk.
I kind of wish that enemies and boxes only gave you ammo for the weapons you had.
Though, if that were the case, I think we'd all whore things like the Mine Launcher and 1911 and/or Broken Butterfly to no end.
Hehe... 1911. I remember the first time I was playing, and I saw the 1911, and I started to debate on how I should proceed. I hadn't found any magnum ammo yet, and I was trying to figure out whether there would be 11.5 mm ammunition for it, or whether it would just use the generic "handgun" ammo. Remember, that at this point, I had never used these weapons so I had no idea that the ammo for them was deliberately rare.
On one hand... All of the handguns so far have been in 9 mm, so it makes sense they all use the same ammo.
On the other hand... This is a video game, and the 1911 is handgun, and the ammo name is HANDGUN ammo, despite what its description says...
Instead of buying the 1911 and firing off a shot to test it, I, being the genius that I am, just sold my C96 and took the 1911. I didn't realise that it wouldn't take handgun ammunition until I was surrounded by Ganados with six rounds in the magazine.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
Personally, I tend to prefer using the rifle to just blow their heads off like the shield wasn't even there.
If you're worried about conserving shotgun shells, you're going to be saving your rifle ammo for something more important than a single shield monk.
I don't think you quite grasp the situation. Two shells for one enemy? Unacceptable. Those shells will no longer be there when I need them for crowd-control in a few minutes. TMP ammo is entirely disposable. It's the gun that I have around so that I have more ammo overall.
Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
Personally, I tend to prefer using the rifle to just blow their heads off like the shield wasn't even there.
If you're worried about conserving shotgun shells, you're going to be saving your rifle ammo for something more important than a single shield monk.
I'm not worried about rifle shells - I often have to sell them off to keep space. I usually have ~30, plus what's in the gun. Shotgun shells? I think the 100 chambered in my Striker plus the 30-45 extra I have kicking around ought to last a while.
I've never focused on ammo conservation much in RE4. As long as I have around 15 shotgun shells for crowd control purposes, I'll use whatever gun I feel like (magnum aside, at least on the first playthrough).
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Darn it all. Now, I want resident evil 4 thanks to this thread. Ill probably get the PC version and use my 360 controller, unless the graphics are really bad compared to the gamecube version. Anyone have some screens comparing the two?
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
I use the semi-auto on shield guys. One shot to the top of the shield = head asplode.
There is maybe 1 situation in the game where you absolutely NEED to have rifle ammo (i think the part where those guys are driving the grinder towards ashley). Outside of that I use the Red 9 for everything. It is one accurate, powerful little SOB.
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Using it a friend's save game, I found it useful in the castle for crowd control with monks. Blast at the kneecap level and you've got them all down on the ground for a couple seconds. Well-controlled bursts also allow for multiple staggering shots and/or headshots. I never sprayed, I always fired a shot at a time. And it was pretty damn awesome, to tlel the truth.
Of course, I still pawned it off to make room for the BB. Maybe one day I'll use it in a playthrough of my own.
The TMP is really suited for stalling large crowds quickly I think.
It is also occasionally fun to use on lone people, just so you can fill them with 157 bullets before they die.
That is what I use incendiary grenades for.
It is fun to watch a big crowd of ganados do the OH FUCK IM ON FIRE dance.
I like to think of it as a Blacktail that fires more than twice as fast, does more than half as much damage, and carries 250 rounds in a clip. Against single targets it's just as effective - shoot in the leg, suplex, knifey knifey. But against STRONG targets, it's much, much better IMO. Full automatic fire FTW.
I've been meaning to do a no-pistol TMP run, but have been too busy with other cube games. Maybe I'll try one out later.
Yes, they are fun and effective, but still the TMP does nicely when the ganados are to spread out for incendiary grenades to work.
The TMP is best against crowds. It's really useful in situations where you want to hit lots of Ganados in the head/knees to set up a melee attack or want to knock them down, but don't want to make yourself vulnerable by getting close enough to use the knife. Also, it makes killing El Gigante much simpler. Ammo scarcity shouldn't be a concern unless you're spraying bullets instead of setting up head/knee shots.
The worst thing about the TMP? By the time a TMP-only run is a viable option, you probably already have the Chicago Typewriter. It's almost like taking the less powerful weapon on purpose.
The PC version is one of the worst ports of anything that I've ever seen. It's frankly kind of offensive. Also, the TMP is great against shield-guys.
Shield guys are migraines. And my shotgun is loaded with aspirin.
My shotgun shells are valuable and scarce. My TMP bullets are inconsequential.
I don't have the gamecube version. I actually have to keep track of my ammo. Having so many shotgun shells as to make them a space concern has never happened.
You can also get a fuckton of mileage out if by upgrading the capacity at times. All in all not necessary, but it has its uses. I also find it one of the more fun weapons.
Yes, every merchant will have all the weapons and upgrades available on a second playthrough.
A shot to blow off the top of the shield, and you can finish him with whatever you wish.
I wasn't planning on going TMP-only, at least not the first time. Maybe the 'rapid fire' options from the firing range, so TMP/Shotgun and grenades or something. If you use it almost exclusively I'd immagine drops come fairly frequently.
Personally, I tend to prefer using the rifle to just blow their heads off like the shield wasn't even there.
If you're worried about conserving shotgun shells, you're going to be saving your rifle ammo for something more important than a single shield monk.
Though, if that were the case, I think we'd all whore things like the Mine Launcher and 1911 and/or Broken Butterfly to no end.
Hehe... 1911. I remember the first time I was playing, and I saw the 1911, and I started to debate on how I should proceed. I hadn't found any magnum ammo yet, and I was trying to figure out whether there would be 11.5 mm ammunition for it, or whether it would just use the generic "handgun" ammo. Remember, that at this point, I had never used these weapons so I had no idea that the ammo for them was deliberately rare.
On one hand... All of the handguns so far have been in 9 mm, so it makes sense they all use the same ammo.
On the other hand... This is a video game, and the 1911 is handgun, and the ammo name is HANDGUN ammo, despite what its description says...
Instead of buying the 1911 and firing off a shot to test it, I, being the genius that I am, just sold my C96 and took the 1911. I didn't realise that it wouldn't take handgun ammunition until I was surrounded by Ganados with six rounds in the magazine.
I don't think you quite grasp the situation. Two shells for one enemy? Unacceptable. Those shells will no longer be there when I need them for crowd-control in a few minutes. TMP ammo is entirely disposable. It's the gun that I have around so that I have more ammo overall.
I'm not worried about rifle shells - I often have to sell them off to keep space. I usually have ~30, plus what's in the gun. Shotgun shells? I think the 100 chambered in my Striker plus the 30-45 extra I have kicking around ought to last a while.
I've never focused on ammo conservation much in RE4. As long as I have around 15 shotgun shells for crowd control purposes, I'll use whatever gun I feel like (magnum aside, at least on the first playthrough).
I use the semi-auto on shield guys. One shot to the top of the shield = head asplode.
There is maybe 1 situation in the game where you absolutely NEED to have rifle ammo (i think the part where those guys are driving the grinder towards ashley). Outside of that I use the Red 9 for everything. It is one accurate, powerful little SOB.
Seriously, I don't understand why anyone debates this anymore. Red 9 + Stock = Win.
It's simple math, really. Opinions, schmupinons.
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same case here.
I thought they were made up just for the game.
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wikipedia lies!! spinels are, in fact, NOT sold for a high price!!. :x
You should edit the article with that as your reason.
In other news, I'm out of magnum ammo, so I have to use the knife.