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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
edited October 2009
I am a big fan of private capital.
I do think our current economic system is really strange, but that is because I don't really know as much about it as I probably should. Wall street and hedge fund managers are strange and complicated.
Anarcho-syndicalism has some good ideas but I think adopting it as a whole is just eehh
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.
but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground
if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.
but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground
if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine
Ownership comes from the ability to protect an asset.
In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.
but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!
i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer
Shank a dude with a sharpened stick and steal his.
but how will i sharpen it
with my teeth
that is so unhygenic
My ideal world will still have public parks, and those will have concrete pathways. To ensure fairness to all, of course. And there will be public shankers who can be enlisted to shank a dude if you're too weak, but you're obligated to compensate them later.
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Quoththe RavenMiami, FL FOR REALRegistered Userregular
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.
but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground
if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine
Ownership comes from the ability to protect an asset.
so if i lick the cookie and run away with it and the cops don't catch me then it's mine
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
as I created the firm I decide who gets to work in it and who doesn't. I get to decide what I pay them for the labor. the workers are free to decide if they are willing to trade their labor for the I resources I offer them or not.
Labor is just another recourse that is traded.
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Quoththe RavenMiami, FL FOR REALRegistered Userregular
How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
as I created the firm I decide who gets to work in it and who doesn't. I get to decide what I pay them for the labor. the workers are free to decide if they are willing to trade their labor for the I resources I offer them or not.
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Those homeowners should have seen it coming.
why shouldn't i make money off the backs of the poor if i'm smart enough to get away with it
oh god i can't play this game anymore i'm just too tired
but aren't they one in the same?
but teefs i am one of the browns
I am only ok with it in very limited, regulated form, decided on case by case basis.
Sometimes rights have to be given up for a society to function, but only as a last resort method.
Crap.
i believe i'm what's known as a beaner
I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.
I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.
I do think our current economic system is really strange, but that is because I don't really know as much about it as I probably should. Wall street and hedge fund managers are strange and complicated.
Anarcho-syndicalism has some good ideas but I think adopting it as a whole is just eehh
No one is saying that is wrong.
Well i hope not, because if they are thats pretty stupid in my view.
However as the manager of said labour workforce, you are obligated not to fuck them over.
this begs so many questions
precedent does not equal ethical soundness
where did you get the resources
why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow
why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work
it runs on similar principles to democracy
but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!
i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer
Of course not. I am not a libertarian. I believe in social capitalism. Free market with strong ethical limitations.
Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.
you mean individual capital / human capital? or private ownership?
I would never have noticed!
Shank a dude with a sharpened stick and steal his.
but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground
if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine
I'll have to save this post, right now I am studying Enviromental Econ and what the right amount of pollution is.
The answer is not none.
Also, Market Failures explain so much of this world, so sexy.
but how will i sharpen it
with my teeth
that is so unhygenic
Ownership comes from the ability to protect an asset.
My ideal world will still have public parks, and those will have concrete pathways. To ensure fairness to all, of course. And there will be public shankers who can be enlisted to shank a dude if you're too weak, but you're obligated to compensate them later.
so if i lick the cookie and run away with it and the cops don't catch me then it's mine
as I created the firm I decide who gets to work in it and who doesn't. I get to decide what I pay them for the labor. the workers are free to decide if they are willing to trade their labor for the I resources I offer them or not.
Labor is just another recourse that is traded.
you didn't answer any of the questions!
As nowadays all ground and all resources worldwide belonging to someone the only, legal, way to acquire them is to purchase them of the owner.