I was suprised the ACR didn't fire 6.8mm SPC or some other tacticool round.
The game probably didn't have the ACR chambered for 6.8 because then it would be the best rifle in the game.
Since when has that actually mattered in the game?
Here's what makes me laugh. The accolades for most LMG kills says "7.62mm" which is the 7.62x51 shit most "heavy" lmg's are in.
But 3/5 of the LMG's are actually 5.56x45. Which makes me laugh.
The trajectory and recoil for 6.8mm SPC is comparable to 5.56, yet it has the terminal ballistics of 7.62 NATO. Yeah, there'd be no reason to use anything else in the game.
Heavy machine guns are usually chambered in .50 cal or 40mm. Medium machine guns are chambered in 7.62.
They really don't care about authenticity any more it seems.
I was suprised the ACR didn't fire 6.8mm SPC or some other tacticool round.
The game probably didn't have the ACR chambered for 6.8 because then it would be the best rifle in the game.
Since when has that actually mattered in the game?
Here's what makes me laugh. The accolades for most LMG kills says "7.62mm" which is the 7.62x51 shit most "heavy" lmg's are in.
But 3/5 of the LMG's are actually 5.56x45. Which makes me laugh.
The trajectory and recoil for 6.8mm SPC is comparable to 5.56, yet it has the terminal ballistics of 7.62 NATO. Yeah, there'd be no reason to use anything else in the game.
Heavy machine guns are usually chambered in .50 cal or 40mm. Medium machine guns are chambered in 7.62.
They really don't care about authenticity any more it seems.
Uh, 40MM? We're not talking about auto-cannons. .50 is 12.7, anything larger than that is generally anti-tank rifles (20MM Lahti, awesome gun).
I was suprised the ACR didn't fire 6.8mm SPC or some other tacticool round.
The game probably didn't have the ACR chambered for 6.8 because then it would be the best rifle in the game.
Since when has that actually mattered in the game?
Here's what makes me laugh. The accolades for most LMG kills says "7.62mm" which is the 7.62x51 shit most "heavy" lmg's are in.
But 3/5 of the LMG's are actually 5.56x45. Which makes me laugh.
The trajectory and recoil for 6.8mm SPC is comparable to 5.56, yet it has the terminal ballistics of 7.62 NATO. Yeah, there'd be no reason to use anything else in the game.
Heavy machine guns are usually chambered in .50 cal or 40mm. Medium machine guns are chambered in 7.62.
They really don't care about authenticity any more it seems.
Uh, 40MM? We're not talking about auto-cannons. .50 is 12.7, anything larger than that is generally anti-tank rifles (20MM Lahti, awesome gun).
Nope.
12.7 is much larger than .50 cal (both the width and length of the round).
I was referring to the MK19. It might be a GMG, but it's still a heavy machine gun.
I was suprised the ACR didn't fire 6.8mm SPC or some other tacticool round.
The game probably didn't have the ACR chambered for 6.8 because then it would be the best rifle in the game.
Since when has that actually mattered in the game?
Here's what makes me laugh. The accolades for most LMG kills says "7.62mm" which is the 7.62x51 shit most "heavy" lmg's are in.
But 3/5 of the LMG's are actually 5.56x45. Which makes me laugh.
The trajectory and recoil for 6.8mm SPC is comparable to 5.56, yet it has the terminal ballistics of 7.62 NATO. Yeah, there'd be no reason to use anything else in the game.
Heavy machine guns are usually chambered in .50 cal or 40mm. Medium machine guns are chambered in 7.62.
They really don't care about authenticity any more it seems.
Uh, 40MM? We're not talking about auto-cannons. .50 is 12.7, anything larger than that is generally anti-tank rifles (20MM Lahti, awesome gun).
Nope.
12.7 is much larger than .50 cal (both the width and length of the round).
I was referring to the MK19. It might be a GMG, but it's still a heavy machine gun.
12.7x99mm NATO is the .50BMG round, used in the M2 machine gun. It is not larger, it is the same round.
I suppose since they have the AUG in the LMG category they could have swung that.
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Well, the thing about the AUG is that it can be interchanged simply by a swapout of the barrel and maybe the action. HBAR, "Heavy Barrel Automatic Rifle" is the LMG role of the weapon, so it makes sense.
And what the hell is with all of the damn bullpups in this game, seriously.
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
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edited November 2009
Slightly. It doesn't really matter, people aren't going to give a shit what their rifles in game are chambered for because IW just makes takes the weapon from RL, then balances it into the game.
And here's what's bugging me. In MW1, whenever you had a weapon chambered for say, 9mm, and you were using an MP5, and you walked over an M9 which was also 9mn, you picked up ammo. However, I've found that without Scavenger, weapons other than the one you're using will not give ammo to you, even if they're identical calibers. It's really aggravating because it practically forces me to use Scavenger (although it is a very good perk).
Edit; and they share the same magazines, all of them STANAG style (for the assault rifles in .223), so that can't be it either.
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
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In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
Man, you'd better be penetrating some serious shit to be needing a round that large. Robot T-Rex, perhaps? Maybe Godzilla. Or 2 feet of cinderblocks, and 6 inches of steel plate behind that.
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
Man, you'd better be penetrating some serious shit to be needing a round that large. Robot T-Rex, perhaps? Maybe Godzilla. Or 2 feet of cinderblocks, and 6 inches of steel plate behind that.
Or maybe Coalition vehicles?
We didn't use them over there, anti-coalition forces did.
14.5 is pretty rare, but I saw several Dshks.
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In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
Man, you'd better be penetrating some serious shit to be needing a round that large. Robot T-Rex, perhaps? Maybe Godzilla. Or 2 feet of cinderblocks, and 6 inches of steel plate behind that.
Or maybe Coalition vehicles?
We didn't use them over there, anti-coalition forces did.
14.5 is pretty rare, but I saw several Dshks.
Would an armor piercing round make it through an M1A1 or a Stryker? Humvees are pretty much made of tissue paper, but I could see the uses of a heavy weapon against troop transports.
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edited November 2009
Holy shit.
Akimbo Vectors + rapid-fire = OH SHIT A WALL OF LEAD
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
Man, you'd better be penetrating some serious shit to be needing a round that large. Robot T-Rex, perhaps? Maybe Godzilla. Or 2 feet of cinderblocks, and 6 inches of steel plate behind that.
Or maybe Coalition vehicles?
We didn't use them over there, anti-coalition forces did.
14.5 is pretty rare, but I saw several Dshks.
Would an armor piercing round make it through an M1A1 or a Stryker? Humvees are pretty much made of tissue paper, but I could see the uses of a heavy weapon against troop transports.
No.
The up-armored HMMWVs they use overseas these days are about as well armored as any APC.
The sound in this game is pretty terrible. The M134 in particular sounds like ass. They really didn't put much effort into the single player.
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My favorite sounding weapons are the M21(cough14cough)EBR and the AK-47, they added that metallic sound of the action into the AK and it sounds mean. Some do sound like ass, because they're only in the game once and they don't "need" as much quality as others.
The 240B sounds terrible. I cringe whenever I fire it.
It's also extremely weak.
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Could anybody explain to me that the more tired I am, the better I am at this game? I guess I relax a bit and pay more attention, but surely my reaction time is slowed.
Since I've acquired it, I don't think I've ever let an enemy have a killstreak in the air for longer than 5 seconds. Fuck, once I actually shot down a care package chopper before it dropped. The care package still fell, but not where it was called.
Just unlocked the m21 EBR, and went on a rampage with that thing. Its so so so beautiful. I got jumped by 3 people, and just hammered my right trigger as fast I could, emptied the clip and killed all 3. It was pretty hilarious on my side, not so much theirs.
I've dabbled in sniper rifles, using all the earlier ones for a bit. Never more, this thing beats everything else by such a huge margin.
Edit - Yeah, stingers are AMAZING. Javelins are awesome, but not as good as shooting down flying vehicles, but great for area denial.
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Since I've acquired it, I don't think I've ever let an enemy have a killstreak in the air for longer than 5 seconds. Fuck, once I actually shot down a care package chopper before it dropped. The care package still fell, but not where it was called.
Nice. Anyone know for certain if downing care package choppers counts toward progress in unlocking Cold-Blooded Pro? I mostly go after UAVs and Harriers, but some more eligible targets would speed the process up a bit.
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edited November 2009
Grr, I arrange a round of Spec-Ops with a mate after the sweltering heatwave we've been dealing with passed, and as soon as we finish the first mission, a storm kicks up and causes a blackout for him.
Australian weather :rotate:
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My buddy is coming over tomorrow with his set up so we can Spec Ops in the same room. I can't wait.
Working my way through the SMGs I'm almost to the Vector. I'm used to the distance I can hit with the almost no recoil UMP45. Are my sights going to be as calm with the Vector?
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Working my way through the SMGs I'm almost to the Vector. I'm used to the distance I can hit with the almost no recoil UMP45. Are my sights going to be as calm with the Vector?
My buddy is coming over tomorrow with his set up so we can Spec Ops in the same room. I can't wait.
Working my way through the SMGs I'm almost to the Vector. I'm used to the distance I can hit with the almost no recoil UMP45. Are my sights going to be as calm with the Vector?
Favela is by far my favorite map, but only with the marathon lightweight commando tac-knife setup. Even better on domination, I just run around all the winding alleys and jump off roofs stabbin folks until it's ac130 time
favela with that build makes me think of mirror's edge or that bit in casino royale
i spent a match just leaping and running across the roofs, never coming down (because it was lmg bullet hell down there) and taking out snipers
one of them came back with a riot sheild so i stood still, took aim, and shot his feet instead
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Since when has that actually mattered in the game?
Here's what makes me laugh. The accolades for most LMG kills says "7.62mm" which is the 7.62x51 shit most "heavy" lmg's are in.
But 3/5 of the LMG's are actually 5.56x45. Which makes me laugh.
FMJ reference, I bet. It's still funny.
The trajectory and recoil for 6.8mm SPC is comparable to 5.56, yet it has the terminal ballistics of 7.62 NATO. Yeah, there'd be no reason to use anything else in the game.
Heavy machine guns are usually chambered in .50 cal or 40mm. Medium machine guns are chambered in 7.62.
They really don't care about authenticity any more it seems.
In a game where you can dual wield gold-plated shotguns?
Surely you jest.
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Uh, 40MM? We're not talking about auto-cannons. .50 is 12.7, anything larger than that is generally anti-tank rifles (20MM Lahti, awesome gun).
You've found gold-plated Rangers?
Nope.
12.7 is much larger than .50 cal (both the width and length of the round).
I was referring to the MK19. It might be a GMG, but it's still a heavy machine gun.
Otherwise I am enjoying this game. Also the big "OMFG" about the no dedicated servers is way overblown.
You talk clean and bomb hospitals, so I speak with the foulest mouth possible
12.7x99mm NATO is the .50BMG round, used in the M2 machine gun. It is not larger, it is the same round.
I want an RPK. Long barreled AK-47 gogogogo
And what the hell is with all of the damn bullpups in this game, seriously.
In most cases (well, in pretty much every case) 12.7mm refers to 12.7x108, which is in fact a larger round.
And here's what's bugging me. In MW1, whenever you had a weapon chambered for say, 9mm, and you were using an MP5, and you walked over an M9 which was also 9mn, you picked up ammo. However, I've found that without Scavenger, weapons other than the one you're using will not give ammo to you, even if they're identical calibers. It's really aggravating because it practically forces me to use Scavenger (although it is a very good perk).
Edit; and they share the same magazines, all of them STANAG style (for the assault rifles in .223), so that can't be it either.
Does anyone outside of the former USSR use 12.7x108?
14.5x114mm is a neat round, almost 10,000 ft-lbf more at the muzzle than the .50 BMG, but I'm not sure anyone uses that anymore either. Which would make it ideal for this game, where it would somehow do less damage than the M16.
Aww, too many bullshit deaths? It does get irritating after a while, I just stop playing for a while and cannibalize some orphan babies.
Several countries still use both the 12.7x108 and 14.5.
They're common in Iraq and Afghanistan, but not in first world countries.
Man, you'd better be penetrating some serious shit to be needing a round that large. Robot T-Rex, perhaps? Maybe Godzilla. Or 2 feet of cinderblocks, and 6 inches of steel plate behind that.
Or maybe Coalition vehicles?
We didn't use them over there, anti-coalition forces did.
14.5 is pretty rare, but I saw several Dshks.
Would an armor piercing round make it through an M1A1 or a Stryker? Humvees are pretty much made of tissue paper, but I could see the uses of a heavy weapon against troop transports.
Akimbo Vectors + rapid-fire = OH SHIT A WALL OF LEAD
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Always killing me and stuff.
No.
The up-armored HMMWVs they use overseas these days are about as well armored as any APC.
The sound in this game is pretty terrible. The M134 in particular sounds like ass. They really didn't put much effort into the single player.
It's also extremely weak.
Oh well, K/D ratio is a'risin.
THE STINGER IS CIVILIZATION!
Since I've acquired it, I don't think I've ever let an enemy have a killstreak in the air for longer than 5 seconds. Fuck, once I actually shot down a care package chopper before it dropped. The care package still fell, but not where it was called.
I've dabbled in sniper rifles, using all the earlier ones for a bit. Never more, this thing beats everything else by such a huge margin.
Edit - Yeah, stingers are AMAZING. Javelins are awesome, but not as good as shooting down flying vehicles, but great for area denial.
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
Nice. Anyone know for certain if downing care package choppers counts toward progress in unlocking Cold-Blooded Pro? I mostly go after UAVs and Harriers, but some more eligible targets would speed the process up a bit.
Australian weather :rotate:
Working my way through the SMGs I'm almost to the Vector. I'm used to the distance I can hit with the almost no recoil UMP45. Are my sights going to be as calm with the Vector?
Oh yeah, the Vector is a beast.
The Vector should be even better.
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favela with that build makes me think of mirror's edge or that bit in casino royale
i spent a match just leaping and running across the roofs, never coming down (because it was lmg bullet hell down there) and taking out snipers
one of them came back with a riot sheild so i stood still, took aim, and shot his feet instead
that is what the gun is for.
Not my favorite map, but not a bad one by any means. The only one I vote down consistently is Derail. Fuck that place.