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Nier is the best motherfucking game

RentRent I'm always rightFuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
edited October 2010 in Social Entropy++
Hey you might know me as 'that guy you confuse with Rust' or 'that guy who's obssessed with Valkyria Chronicles' or 'total asshole'

Anyways none of that shit matters because I'm here to talk about the greatest fucking game you've never played and that's Nier

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What the fuck is Nier Rent

Nier is like a third person action-rpg that combines literally every genre of game that you can think of into one game

Seriously

God of War? Yep. Final Fantasy? Uh-huh. Demon's Souls? Of course. Monster Hunter? Yeah. Fucking Harvest Moon? Lost Odyssey? Resident Evil? Sin and Punishment? Yes

Seriously, I'm not joking if you've played a game in the last ten years, when you play Nier something in it will remind you of that game

Anyways this game is developed by Cavia

You might not know who Cavia is/was- they were a small development studio on the Enix side of S-E pre merger and they developed a bunch of weird as fuck games like:

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Oh and Resident Evil Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles too

They got dissolved recently but pretty much everyone who worked in Cavia is still employed at S-E in some way so it's not a big deal

anyways if you've ever played any of the above games I've listed you'll notice that they're all horrible fucking games, mostly due to having horrible gameplay and incredibly disturbing/depressing storylines

But Nier is different! Nier has okay gameplay

That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of the gameplay, because it's not, but Nier totally makes up for it in other areas

(In case you're wondering Nier's gameplay is, it's roughly equivalent to God of War's- combo based with plenty of powerful magic attacks at your disposal)

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Gameplay ain't too hot though. I mean it's servicable but whatev's

But here's why you play it:

The Music

Seriously this music is some of the best you'll ever hear in a video game, it is so fucking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTLqLsf1n54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUsS0qnbhtc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKjDUlpAspI

Now imagine that but everything in the game. Seriously every track in this game is so, so good, and there's a shitload of them

The Bosses

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Yeah this game has some excellent fucking bosses, they're really well designed and fun as hell to fight against, and they're all fairly unique encounters

Also there is a fucking ton of boss fights. They just pile on the boss fights in this game, and it's great because they're all great

The Plot and Characters

This game's plot is, seriously, one of the best I've ever played of all time. It is so. fucking. good. If you came into this and saw that the publisher was Square Enix expecting some gay JRPG storyline you will be fucking blown away by how excellent the game is

It is seriously so excellent. I can't stop talking about how great the storyline of this game is. It's the only game that I've played that's gotten me to laugh intentionally

It's also the only game that made me feel sadness, and soul-crushing despair after some of the events of the game

This game runs the gamut of emotions, from extreme highs to extreme lows and everywhere in between, and if you've until now never been invested in a game's storyline before well then buckle up because Nier will rock your fucking world.

Anyways to be more specific the game is about Nier(you),, a middle aged man with a young daughter, Yonah, who has been infected with a disease called The Black Scrawl

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Even though I used the name "Nier" for the main character, the main character is actually you. This is an important plot point throughout the game, so if you play this game make sure to input your name when you name the main character

Anyways Nier (I'm using the name "Nier" for ease in naming conventions) is trying to heal his daughter so goes out into the world to try and find a cure for his daughter's strange illness.

He then meets Grimoire Weiss, a talking book, who might know a bit about healing his daughter's illness.

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Weiss is like a combination of Alan Rickman and Stephen Fry, and totally awesome. His sarcastic comments on the world around him and his acid-laced "conversations" with Kainé are some of the game's best

Oh yeah

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Kainé's a swordswoman with a mysterious past and a filthy mouth. She joins Nier's team after a certain plot sensitive event and honestly, in my opinion, is one of the better examples of females potrayed in video games

Instead of being a useless plot device or a spineless lovestruck moron she's incredibly self-assertive and tough

Unfortunately she dresses like an idiot so everyone ignores how well Cavia actually potrayed a female in a video game that wasn't offensive or misogynistic and focuses on her clothes

Still though Kainé's awesome, disregard her clothing issue

Oh also there's another guy but his very existence is a spoiler so I'm not gonna talk about him

The Dialogue

The dialogue in this game is fucking amazing, seriously one of the best localizations I've ever seen in a video game

It is so good

For instance this is the intro for the game

It is able to convey real emotion to the scenes, and helps the plot (which is fucking excellent) move forward at a rapid clip

Oh man this game is balls awesome Rent where do I get it

You can get it for either the 360 or PS3, and K-Mart is having a sale on Nier starting next week for twenty fucking dollars.

There is no excuse not to get this game, it is so cheap but seriously one of the best plots I've ever experienced in a video game.

Now normally this is the part where I'd link all the reviews that agreed with me, but actually this game reviewed really really poorly

However I'd say this is a situation where the reviewers really didn't get it, and focused on the gameplay (which isn't too great) or the graphics (which are shitty, but strangely appropriate for the game) instead of on what the game was trying to do- tell a really great, well realized story

Anyways seriously get Nier

It is so good

So good

Some warnings before you play the game though:
  • The gameplay is not good. Don't come in expecting awesome gameplay.
  • The game has some really low-res textures and has a SHITLOAD of bloom. Seriously, so much fucking bloom
  • You'll probably want to have played or at least know the story of Drakengard 1 for this game (Nier is actually a direct sequel to Drakengard). "But there was a Drakengard 2?" you ask. Yeah, don't worry about it, it'll get explained. But yeah, you'll probably want to read The Dark Id's LP of Drakengard so that parts of Nier make more sense. It's not necessary to do so in order to understand the plot of Nier but it helps the backstory make more sense
  • The fishing lies to you. You want to pull the analog stick away but TO THE SAME SIDE as wherever the rod is pointing, not to the opposite side.
  • If you beat the game and are confused as hell by the ending, don't worry the game has three more! You just experienced ending A. Ending B is after beating the game a second time, and Endings C and D are after beating it a third whilst having all the weapons and making a certain choice at the end of the game. Make sure to get Ending C FIRST.

Anyways yeah

Nier

best fucking game you've never played

Rent on
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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Actually, the best game is Super Mario. Neat thread though.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    wait

    a game with awful gameplay has four different endings and you have to slog through this shitty game multiple times to get to them all?

    gee sign me up

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    i played like an hour of this game and couldn't get into it

    also it is ugly as shit

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Oh hey, you're that guy who jerks off to Valkaria Chronicles.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    It isn't awful

    it's just...not very good

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    this looks dramatically mediocre

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    wait

    a game with awful gameplay has four different endings and you have to slog through this shitty game multiple times to get to them all?

    gee sign me up

    Yeah any game where you say the "gameplay is bad"... and its the best game?
    Clearly the OP just has terrible taste.
    Pass.

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    the whole time i was playing it i thought "man this would've been awesome if this was 2005 and on PS2"

    but it came out in 2010 on 360/PS3 and it's poop

  • Ginger MijangoGinger Mijango Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Perhaps they should've done a choose your own adventure book instead of a game.

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    never played the game but you cite a girl who wears a victoria's secret catalog into battle as the best example of women in gaming?

    edit: missed your bit on her clothing there, still makes her portrayal highly suspect

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    what I'm saying is this game looks like it excels at being not great

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    it is average with a kind of focus and intensity seen normally only in excellence

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So let me get this straight. The gameplay is terrible, the graphics are awful, and it's a direct sequel to an obscure PS2 game about dragons that had an ending where the dragons warp into the future and get killed by jet fighters.

    Fuck you Rent

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights fuck tough be coolRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The very beginning might have you thinking this game could be awesome

    It's in a world very similar to The Road, visually, and you are beating the shit out of monsters with a huge pipe to try and save your daughter, and there's some cool stuff about magic and a book and you use some rad powers

    Then you go back in time and the game gets fucking retarded

    All of the animations look so stupid. Nobody runs or jumps or swings something like that

    Ugh this fucking game

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So let me get this straight. The gameplay is terrible, the graphics are awful, and it's a direct sequel to an obscure PS2 game about dragons that had an ending where the dragons warp into the future and get killed by jet fighters.

    Fuck you Rent

    hahaha that sounds hilarious

  • AntimatterAntimatter if you want to talk to me look elsewhere.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So let me get this straight. The gameplay is terrible, the graphics are awful, and it's a direct sequel to an obscure PS2 game about dragons that had an ending where the dragons warp into the future and get killed by jet fighters.

    Fuck you Rent
    oh my god this Let's Play
    holy shit
    fucking forgot all about it

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    uh you never go back in time?

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    So let me get this straight. The gameplay is terrible, the graphics are awful, and it's a direct sequel to an obscure PS2 game about dragons that had an ending where the dragons warp into the future and get killed by jet fighters.

    Fuck you Rent

    hahaha that sounds hilarious

    It would have been more hilarious if the game was actually any good but instead it was a halfassed Dynasty Warriors ripoff.

    And Dynasty Warriors was already pretty halfassed

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck

  • Sir PenguinSir Penguin Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I dunno, it looks... interesting, at least. I played Drakengard 1, and while it was at least rough around the edges in terms of gameplay, if not worse, and had a plot that made me basically go O_o I still enjoyed it for whatever reason.

    I might pick this up, even if the gameplay is mediocre, we'll see.

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    The very beginning might have you thinking this game could be awesome

    It's in a world very similar to The Road, visually, and you are beating the shit out of monsters with a huge pipe to try and save your daughter, and there's some cool stuff about magic and a book and you use some rad powers

    Then you go back in time and the game gets fucking retarded

    All of the animations look so stupid. Nobody runs or jumps or swings something like that

    Ugh this fucking game

    you actually go 1,000 years into the future

    i totally missed where it said that (I saw "1,000 years in") and then it switched and i couldn't tell if it was the past or future and i didn't care

  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights fuck tough be coolRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    uh you never go back in time?

    Okay so you go so far forward that it is like the past

    Whatever this game fucking sucks

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck
    japan

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck

    nerds on the internet like to like things that nobody else does as a feeling of exclusivity

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I think I remember seeing this at best buy, actually

    if I remember correctly I made an angry remark about how real words just aren't good enough for people anymore
    seriously what kind of a name is nier

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck

    nerds on the internet like to like things that nobody else does as a feeling of exclusivity
    then wouldn't trying to convince everybody on the internet to enjoy the game defeat the purpose?

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Look guys.

    They haven't made a Legacy of Kain Game for like 6 years.

    I'm...

    I'm fadinnnnnng awaaaaaay.

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck

    nerds on the internet like to like things that nobody else does as a feeling of exclusivity
    then wouldn't trying to convince everybody on the internet to enjoy the game defeat the purpose?

    no because he knows no one will like it (as he stated that the reviews were shit) so he gets an even better sense of exclusivity

    because you don't get it

  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights fuck tough be coolRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Also I put my name in and some girl called me dad and I was like fuck this game

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    japan

    actually this is the least japanese game

  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    this just blows my mind, though

    like, it makes me wonder what makes a good game to a dude like this, where gameplay and art are entirely unnecessary to his enjoyment, when they make up two of the most critical components of the entire artform itself

    and then along comes this dude that finds a game that he admits is ugly and has terrible gameplay and he raves about it like it is the second coming or something

    how the fuck

    nerds on the internet like to like things that nobody else does as a feeling of exclusivity
    then wouldn't trying to convince everybody on the internet to enjoy the game defeat the purpose?

    the thing is that he knows that the thread is going to be mostly dudes taking the game apart

    so he can sit back on his pyrite throne and smirk. "i knew these chodes wouldn't 'get it'"

    edit: goddamnit keith

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    seriously gameplay and art direction are the two most important parts of a game

    what is wrong with you rent

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'm really not trying to play internet hipster or some shit

    I think this game is really good

    Other people should play it

    I mean if you don't like it okay whatev's no skin off my nose

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    japan

    actually this is the least japanese game

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2010
    I'm confused by the title of this thread and the opening post. They just aren't cohesive.

  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    she's gonna slice so many loaves of bread

  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    I'm really not trying to play internet hipster or some shit

    I think this game is really good

    Other people should play it

    I mean if you don't like it okay whatev's no skin off my nose
    trust me "internet hipster" is exactly the opposite of what you are

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    the forecast was kind of iffy so she figured she'd only bundle up one leg

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  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    seriously why would you have swords with serrated edges

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