[Chat], I have a problem. You see: I work at a live re-enactment of The Office and I'm looking for a new job. I've told my boss that I'm looking for an awesome job that incorporates my degree in Human Geography, but I have not told him I'm also looking for a similar job to the one I have now at a nicer company.
If he finds out he will probably put me on the shortlist of people to fire, which is not something I want.
Now I have to call an agency about a neat little job I found, but I'm kinda busy after office hours so the 1 hour I have between walking out of the office and the agency closing is filled pretty tightly already. So normally I'd call during my lunch break, but I'm not very sure I want to do that now. Note: I can't leave the building without everyone going "Huh why did he leave the office?"
This place sucks. What should I do?
go to the "doctor". meet your "girlfriend" for lunch.
Have a "migraine" or a bad case of "food poisoning."
get a "phone call" from your "landlord" that said a "pipe burst" in your "apartment" and you need to go home to "move your couch."
Tell your boss that he is *many bubbles* and not being *go-go* with the *dancing* is making you *frumple*
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
We also may be approaching a level of sophistication in psychology where it's no longer meaningful to talk about the placebo effect as something to be avoided, but rather something to be harnessed.
Let's face it, for most of the history of clinical psychology it is basically the driving force behind any beneficial effects.
Of course, I think further advances in neuroscience are really going to change how we treat psychology. For instance, developing treatments that exploit plasticity in a theoretically solid manner would be wonderful.
You know, Winky, neuroscience is a dated science. Sooner or later, we'll just upload our minds into computers and then neuroscience will be completely pointless and replaced with a branch of computer science.
Dude that is what I'm doing.
Also come back to me when you figure out how to make a computer that nearly approaches the complexity of the human brain.
Oh wait, don't worry about it, I'll tell you how to make one after I'm done figuring out how the one we've got works.
Well, if the current trend holds (which is a big if, but let's say it isn't for the sake of internet dick waving), in forty years, we'll have computers powerful enough to simulate the brain of every single person on the planet. I doubt you'll unlock all the secrets of the brain in forty years.
All that power is useless if the computers are not designed in an architecture that accurately resembles the human brain and its capabilities. The brain is a distributed network, and it "computes" in a completely different way to Turing machines. We would need to figure out how the brain works before we are able to accurately simulate one.
We also may be approaching a level of sophistication in psychology where it's no longer meaningful to talk about the placebo effect as something to be avoided, but rather something to be harnessed.
Let's face it, for most of the history of clinical psychology it is basically the driving force behind any beneficial effects.
Of course, I think further advances in neuroscience are really going to change how we treat psychology. For instance, developing treatments that exploit plasticity in a theoretically solid manner would be wonderful.
You know, Winky, neuroscience is a dated science. Sooner or later, we'll just upload our minds into computers and then neuroscience will be completely pointless and replaced with a branch of computer science.
Dude that is what I'm doing.
Also come back to me when you figure out how to make a computer that nearly approaches the complexity of the human brain.
Oh wait, don't worry about it, I'll tell you how to make one after I'm done figuring out how the one we've got works.
Well, if the current trend holds (which is a big if, but let's say it isn't for the sake of internet dick waving), in forty years, we'll have computers powerful enough to simulate the brain of every single person on the planet. I doubt you'll unlock all the secrets of the brain in forty years.
Sure I will.
I'll use your computers to do it :P.
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ZampanovYou May Not Go HomeUntil Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered Userregular
[Chat], I have a problem. You see: I work at a live re-enactment of The Office and I'm looking for a new job. I've told my boss that I'm looking for an awesome job that incorporates my degree in Human Geography, but I have not told him I'm also looking for a similar job to the one I have now at a nicer company.
If he finds out he will probably put me on the shortlist of people to fire, which is not something I want.
Now I have to call an agency about a neat little job I found, but I'm kinda busy after office hours so the 1 hour I have between walking out of the office and the agency closing is filled pretty tightly already. So normally I'd call during my lunch break, but I'm not very sure I want to do that now. Note: I can't leave the building without everyone going "Huh why did he leave the office?"
This place sucks. What should I do?
go to the "doctor". meet your "girlfriend" for lunch.
Claim you have "stomach problems". Everyone will assume wierd poo. No one will ask.
[Chat], I have a problem. You see: I work at a live re-enactment of The Office and I'm looking for a new job. I've told my boss that I'm looking for an awesome job that incorporates my degree in Human Geography, but I have not told him I'm also looking for a similar job to the one I have now at a nicer company.
If he finds out he will probably put me on the shortlist of people to fire, which is not something I want.
Now I have to call an agency about a neat little job I found, but I'm kinda busy after office hours so the 1 hour I have between walking out of the office and the agency closing is filled pretty tightly already. So normally I'd call during my lunch break, but I'm not very sure I want to do that now. Note: I can't leave the building without everyone going "Huh why did he leave the office?"
This place sucks. What should I do?
go to the "doctor". meet your "girlfriend" for lunch.
I have 30 minutes of lunch and have to report all doctor visits during work time to my boss. I don't have a girlfiend either. I mean, I never leave the office during lunch break. If I would someone is gonna ask why I did and if it's one of the few people I actually like I'd hate having to lie to them. I mean, I can say I went for a stroll or whatever, but it'd still raise suspicion and I'd have to maintain the lie and describe the benefits of it in detail.
Also, it's freezing outside, I don't even want to leave the building. :P
I mean, this is basically the state of paranoia I'm constantly in, no matter what I do I fear someone is going to find out and report on it. They're running this place a bit like Eastern Germany with people being pushed to report on their co-workers' mistakes and HSE violations all the time. They've already fired someone for being too actively looking for a new job during work. I don't want to be next.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited March 2011
I've offered for years to pay for forum access if it meant better stuff.
We also may be approaching a level of sophistication in psychology where it's no longer meaningful to talk about the placebo effect as something to be avoided, but rather something to be harnessed.
Let's face it, for most of the history of clinical psychology it is basically the driving force behind any beneficial effects.
Of course, I think further advances in neuroscience are really going to change how we treat psychology. For instance, developing treatments that exploit plasticity in a theoretically solid manner would be wonderful.
You know, Winky, neuroscience is a dated science. Sooner or later, we'll just upload our minds into computers and then neuroscience will be completely pointless and replaced with a branch of computer science.
Dude that is what I'm doing.
Also come back to me when you figure out how to make a computer that nearly approaches the complexity of the human brain.
Oh wait, don't worry about it, I'll tell you how to make one after I'm done figuring out how the one we've got works.
Well, if the current trend holds (which is a big if, but let's say it isn't for the sake of internet dick waving), in forty years, we'll have computers powerful enough to simulate the brain of every single person on the planet. I doubt you'll unlock all the secrets of the brain in forty years.
All that power is useless if the computers are not designed in an architecture that accurately resembles the human brain and its capabilities. The brain is a distributed network, and it "computes" in a completely different way to Turing machines. We would need to figure out how the brain works before we are able to accurately simulate one.
Man who wants to create a computer made to work like a brain? Brains suck that's why so many people are idiots.
My character in Dark Heresy (Nico) is basically a spy, one of his personas is Comissar Albert Hoss. It's a fun character for me, though Nico feels terribly guilty about the things he has to do as the Comissar.
[Chat], I have a problem. You see: I work at a live re-enactment of The Office and I'm looking for a new job. I've told my boss that I'm looking for an awesome job that incorporates my degree in Human Geography, but I have not told him I'm also looking for a similar job to the one I have now at a nicer company.
If he finds out he will probably put me on the shortlist of people to fire, which is not something I want.
Now I have to call an agency about a neat little job I found, but I'm kinda busy after office hours so the 1 hour I have between walking out of the office and the agency closing is filled pretty tightly already. So normally I'd call during my lunch break, but I'm not very sure I want to do that now. Note: I can't leave the building without everyone going "Huh why did he leave the office?"
This place sucks. What should I do?
go to the "doctor". meet your "girlfriend" for lunch.
Have a "migraine" or a bad case of "food poisoning."
get a "phone call" from your "landlord" that said a "pipe burst" in your "apartment" and you need to go home to "move your couch."
Tell your boss that he is *many bubbles* and not being *go-go* with the *dancing* is making you *frumple*
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
[Chat], I have a problem. You see: I work at a live re-enactment of The Office and I'm looking for a new job. I've told my boss that I'm looking for an awesome job that incorporates my degree in Human Geography, but I have not told him I'm also looking for a similar job to the one I have now at a nicer company.
If he finds out he will probably put me on the shortlist of people to fire, which is not something I want.
Now I have to call an agency about a neat little job I found, but I'm kinda busy after office hours so the 1 hour I have between walking out of the office and the agency closing is filled pretty tightly already. So normally I'd call during my lunch break, but I'm not very sure I want to do that now. Note: I can't leave the building without everyone going "Huh why did he leave the office?"
This place sucks. What should I do?
go to the "doctor". meet your "girlfriend" for lunch.
Have a "migraine" or a bad case of "food poisoning."
get a "phone call" from your "landlord" that said a "pipe burst" in your "apartment" and you need to go home to "move your couch."
Tell your boss that he is *many bubbles* and not being *go-go* with the *dancing* is making you *frumple*
If I worked in a place that questioned why you left for lunch I'd cut myself.
There is a knife in my drawer.
They actually took a bread knife out of our mini-kitchen because it was deemed too dangerous*.
*I am absolutely not joking about this. A dude was cutting a orange in half with the big knife because the small knife was dirty and the office manager came in, reacted shocked to seeing him cut an orange in half and next break the knife was gone.
If I worked in a place that questioned why you left for lunch I'd cut myself.
There is a knife in my drawer.
They actually took a bread knife out of our mini-kitchen because it was deemed too dangerous*.
*I am absolutely not joking about this. A dude was cutting a orange in half with the big knife because the small knife was dirty and the office manager came in, reacted shocked to seeing him cut an orange in half and next break the knife was gone.
If I worked in a place that questioned why you left for lunch I'd cut myself.
There is a knife in my drawer.
They actually took a bread knife out of our mini-kitchen because it was deemed too dangerous*.
*I am absolutely not joking about this. A dude was cutting a orange in half with the big knife because the small knife was dirty and the office manager came in, reacted shocked to seeing him cut an orange in half and next break the knife was gone.
That actually is pretty reasonable. If Dickface McCoworker cuts himself using a knife in the company canteen, he could conceivably sue the shit out of the company.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Additionally, what really bothers me about the AI optimists is the assumed dualism that subtly pervades their thinking.
Their idea being if we just attain enough computational power, we will cross a threshold, a "mind" will awaken, and the "mind" will become self aware and be able to perceive and react to the world.
Their logic goes thusly: humans are comprised of matter. Therefore, the human mind is produced by the human brain, which is matter. Since computers are also matter, it is then possible to create a computer mind.
This logic misses what should be a completely obvious point: a human being is a living, breathing organism that has self-locomotion, sensory organs, and an ability to interact with its environment. Our intelligence comes from the interaction of our bodies (including our brains) and the environment we live in. A human who could not walk, could not talk, and was locked in a closet for 60 years would be socially and intellectually severely retarded. In order for any given computer to have "our" kind of intelligence, it would have to resemble us not only in its neural architecture, but in its bodily and sensory architecture. In order for a given computer to be as "smart" (where smart is defined as our specific kind of intelligence) as a given human, it would have to resemble a human almost exactly.
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I thought this was why kittens die.
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Have a "migraine" or a bad case of "food poisoning."
get a "phone call" from your "landlord" that said a "pipe burst" in your "apartment" and you need to go home to "move your couch."
Tell your boss that he is *many bubbles* and not being *go-go* with the *dancing* is making you *frumple*
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
if its so expensive why dont they just pay a little more
if its overloaded why dont they get sturdier computers
alas no amount of walking can lose me sixty lbs in six days
Sure I will.
I'll use your computers to do it :P.
they're getting new forum software and hosting
PSN/XBL: Zampanov -- Steam: Zampanov
why don't you pay more for forum access
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Claim you have "stomach problems". Everyone will assume wierd poo. No one will ask.
!!!
I have 30 minutes of lunch and have to report all doctor visits during work time to my boss. I don't have a girlfiend either. I mean, I never leave the office during lunch break. If I would someone is gonna ask why I did and if it's one of the few people I actually like I'd hate having to lie to them. I mean, I can say I went for a stroll or whatever, but it'd still raise suspicion and I'd have to maintain the lie and describe the benefits of it in detail.
Also, it's freezing outside, I don't even want to leave the building. :P
I mean, this is basically the state of paranoia I'm constantly in, no matter what I do I fear someone is going to find out and report on it. They're running this place a bit like Eastern Germany with people being pushed to report on their co-workers' mistakes and HSE violations all the time. They've already fired someone for being too actively looking for a new job during work. I don't want to be next.
Man who wants to create a computer made to work like a brain? Brains suck that's why so many people are idiots.
He means expensive in terms of resource use, and I don't think you appreciate just how much work the forums likely are for the powers that be.
Yessssssssss.
My character in Dark Heresy (Nico) is basically a spy, one of his personas is Comissar Albert Hoss. It's a fun character for me, though Nico feels terribly guilty about the things he has to do as the Comissar.
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Just get sick halfway through the day. Make retching noises in the men's room if you have to.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Man the last thing PA needs is MORE assholes who have entitlement issues.
Feral is such a *Happy Camper*
:^:
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
They actually took a bread knife out of our mini-kitchen because it was deemed too dangerous*.
*I am absolutely not joking about this. A dude was cutting a orange in half with the big knife because the small knife was dirty and the office manager came in, reacted shocked to seeing him cut an orange in half and next break the knife was gone.
if it uses lots of resources why don't they open a mine or something
and get some more resources
No, that's just skin cancer.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
not really how its panned out on the Something Awful forums.
The Goons are the most well organized group outside of 4chan.
dude should have cut his next orange with
PSN/XBL: Zampanov -- Steam: Zampanov
That actually is pretty reasonable. If Dickface McCoworker cuts himself using a knife in the company canteen, he could conceivably sue the shit out of the company.
That cat is so cute.
This probably makes me strange. I'm ok with that.
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Their idea being if we just attain enough computational power, we will cross a threshold, a "mind" will awaken, and the "mind" will become self aware and be able to perceive and react to the world.
Their logic goes thusly: humans are comprised of matter. Therefore, the human mind is produced by the human brain, which is matter. Since computers are also matter, it is then possible to create a computer mind.
This logic misses what should be a completely obvious point: a human being is a living, breathing organism that has self-locomotion, sensory organs, and an ability to interact with its environment. Our intelligence comes from the interaction of our bodies (including our brains) and the environment we live in. A human who could not walk, could not talk, and was locked in a closet for 60 years would be socially and intellectually severely retarded. In order for any given computer to have "our" kind of intelligence, it would have to resemble us not only in its neural architecture, but in its bodily and sensory architecture. In order for a given computer to be as "smart" (where smart is defined as our specific kind of intelligence) as a given human, it would have to resemble a human almost exactly.
i ask to see an m and p compact
him: well do you know how striker fired guns work
me: yes
him: instead of a striker gun i recommend a glock or HK
me: ...
then he kept sweeping me with the muzzle
then i go: may i test the trigger
and he's like SURE THEY CAN TAKE PLENTY OF PUNISHMENT
and i'm like, yeah most all modern pistols can, but i always figure it's polite to ask since it's not my property
and he goes BE SURE NOT TO DO IT WITH [he lists three gun models that are perfectly fine to dry fire]
me: ok
sigh
Because of the stalagmen and deep crows.
I did not think pugs could look uglier. I was wrong.
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well a core group is
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Much meat shall be consumed, and we shall make many karts go.