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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    I'm all for abolishing the majority of sentiments having to do with consumption and masculinity, but black coffee is civilization unless you're drinking lousy coffee.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Gooey wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    And yet, the reverse seems to be cool with everyone.

    no kidding

    hey, you know what sucked

    almost dying over fifty dollars

    it makes me bust out the sobbin' towel too

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    I bet you put milk in your whiskey, desc

    You goddamn degenerate

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    EM did you see my post addressed to you a page or two back?

  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    I bet you put milk in your whiskey, desc

    You goddamn degenerate

    Reminds me of a Mad Men episode.

    *Gasp!*
    desc has an ulcer!

  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    And yet, the reverse seems to be cool with everyone.

    no kidding

    hey, you know what sucked

    almost dying over fifty dollars

    it makes me bust out the sobbin' towel too

    obv you need to level speech a bit

    there is almost always a conversation path to barter it down a bit but you need a good speech check

    Gooey on
    919UOwT.png
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    seriously though re: coffee, there was that TED talk with Malcolm Gladwell where he talked about how most people actually do prefer their coffee kind of weaker, cooler and sweeter but claim they don't because there is societal pressure to be a bad-ass who drinks black coffee.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    desc I love you bro but you are wrong about coffee.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    you know what is pimp

    the fact that i will have to go on disability to pay for my medications when i move out because right now i take 7+ pills a day to stay stable

    and my family is judging me for it and saying that i don't really need all those pills and maybe i should just work harder at my job instead of taking advantage of taxpayers

    lol

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Gooey wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    And yet, the reverse seems to be cool with everyone.

    no kidding

    hey, you know what sucked

    almost dying over fifty dollars

    it makes me bust out the sobbin' towel too

    obv you need to level speech a bit

    there is almost always a conversation path to barter it down a bit but you need a good speech check

    bears are hard to come by on the plains bro

  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    And yet, the reverse seems to be cool with everyone.

    no kidding

    hey, you know what sucked

    almost dying over fifty dollars

    it makes me bust out the sobbin' towel too

    obv you need to level speech a bit

    there is almost always a conversation path to barter it down a bit but you need a good speech check

    Pickpocket is far more useful.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    I will be honest part of the reason I get hyper-smug is because I get pretty defensive about the health-care system

    It's why I am alive. If I was an American in an identical social/financial class and upbringing to the one I grew up in and every other aspect of my life was identical except I lived in the US instead of Canada

    I would not be alive. That is the truth.

    So I get smug/defensive about it because I will brook no argument and no implication that there is anything better about the US' health-care system for someone like me.

  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    And yet, the reverse seems to be cool with everyone.

    no kidding

    hey, you know what sucked

    almost dying over fifty dollars

    it makes me bust out the sobbin' towel too

    I tried to stay in school with full blown ulcerative colitis because I knew if I took time off I could be dropped from my dad's health insurance and I'd likely never be insured again.

    20 year old kids should not be forced to make these kinds of decisions.

    Oh, I'm in terrible pain and can't really sleep through the night or sit through an entire class without having to use the bathroom once or twice, but I need to stay in school otherwise I will surely go bankrupt because I can't afford $1200/mo. for prescription medication alone. Also student loans.

    Psn:wazukki
  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    EM did you see my post addressed to you a page or two back?

    I did, and in fact, replied!

  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    Oooh, health [chat].

    I love living in commie free health land. I just wish I still lived in the even freer Scotland than England where the Tories are trying to stuff everything up.

  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    i either like coffee black

    or with a lottttttt of sugar and cream

    iced coffee (black) is my favorite

    919UOwT.png
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Yep. That's why I don't. I mean I tread super fucking carefully around this, because I've lived under a universal health system and it failed me hardcore, multiple times. I know the prevailing sentiment though - it's not a conversation we can have in [chat]. Three posts in, people would be flipping out. It's just not worth it.

    There's no upside to this conversation, but this time around, I couldn't help but at least mention that there is a reasonable discussion of pros and cons to be had - we just can't do it because I'm on the "heartless" side. Even though I'm on this side because I've experienced how terrible "universal" care can be.

    Even that last sentence is apt to get people raging at me.

  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    I will be honest part of the reason I get hyper-smug is because I get pretty defensive about the health-care system

    It's why I am alive. If I was an American in an identical social/financial class and upbringing to the one I grew up in and every other aspect of my life was identical except I lived in the US instead of Canada

    I would not be alive. That is the truth.

    So I get smug/defensive about it because I will brook no argument and no implication that there is anything better about the US' health-care system for someone like me.

    the odd part is that there was no one attacking you??

    919UOwT.png
  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    I like my coffee rich, bold, and brewed over an entire hot chocolate packet.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    I will be honest part of the reason I get hyper-smug is because I get pretty defensive about the health-care system

    It's why I am alive. If I was an American in an identical social/financial class and upbringing to the one I grew up in and every other aspect of my life was identical except I lived in the US instead of Canada

    I would not be alive. That is the truth.

    So I get smug/defensive about it because I will brook no argument and no implication that there is anything better about the US' health-care system for someone like me.

    the odd part is that there was no one attacking you??

    yes this is the downside of being sensitive and defensive about things

  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    I had to give up caffeine, so it's pretty rare that I drink coffee these days. I started drinking honey lemon tea that I don't add sugar to and it has this really nice, smooth flavor that is bitter, but it's so weak that it's like drinking lemon water with a hint of honey.

    There are two ways I drink my coffee (On the occasion that I do drink coffee): Black, or a mocha. Coffee shops tend to make mochas with a lot of chocolate syrup, so they're usually really, really sweet. I drink black when I want something decidedly not sweet.

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    seriously though re: coffee, there was that TED talk with Malcolm Gladwell where he talked about how most people actually do prefer their coffee kind of weaker, cooler and sweeter but claim they don't because there is societal pressure to be a bad-ass who drinks black coffee.

    I totally believe this is true

    for the record I am not a coffee snob at all, I actually take full on cream and sugar in my coffee, even nice coffee that's made with a good press

    i really haven't acquired the taste for coffee itself, completely, though the coffee i make certainly doesn't need much sugar or milk at all even for me

    i also think middle-shelf bourbon is better than top-shelf scotch probably for similar reasons of palate

    Evil Multifarious on
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Yep. That's why I don't. I mean I tread super fucking carefully around this, because I've lived under a universal health system and it failed me hardcore, multiple times. I know the prevailing sentiment though - it's not a conversation we can have in [chat]. Three posts in, people would be flipping out. It's just not worth it.

    There's no upside to this conversation, but this time around, I couldn't help but at least mention that there is a reasonable discussion of pros and cons to be had - we just can't do it because I'm on the "heartless" side. Even though I'm on this side because I've experienced how terrible "universal" care can be.

    Even that last sentence is apt to get people raging at me.

    If your answer to this is "Medicaid/Medicare" you have not lived under a universal healthcare system... but; Which one?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    you know what is pimp

    the fact that i will have to go on disability to pay for my medications when i move out because right now i take 7+ pills a day to stay stable

    and my family is judging me for it and saying that i don't really need all those pills and maybe i should just work harder at my job instead of taking advantage of taxpayers

    lol

    Man, your family. Have you tried merciless, scathing commentary on their own life choices? I found that my mom learned not to give unsolicited opinions once she realized that it would lead to rhetorically prickly conversation.

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    ah ok EM i didn't see it at first

    thanks!

    i will keep that in mind

  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    The problem with Canadian healthcare is that compared to most other first-world countries, it's shit. I mean, compared to America, it's awesome, but compared to, like, the UK, or Scandinavia (yes, I know it's not a country), or France it's total shit. It's also the closest country to the U.S., so it's what we look to when we think of socialized medicine, so the fact that it's such shit makes it less likely that we'll ever get socialized medicine here (especially with Harper making it even worse).

    As an aside, do you know where by far the most efficient healthcare in the U.S. is done? The Mayo Clinic. Do you know how they do it? They model themselves after socialized medicine.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    you know what is pimp

    the fact that i will have to go on disability to pay for my medications when i move out because right now i take 7+ pills a day to stay stable

    and my family is judging me for it and saying that i don't really need all those pills and maybe i should just work harder at my job instead of taking advantage of taxpayers

    lol

    Man, your family. Have you tried merciless, scathing commentary on their own life choices? I found that my mom learned not to give unsolicited opinions once she realized that it would lead to rhetorically prickly conversation.

    I love my mom and I don't want to hurt her. :|

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    bowen wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Yep. That's why I don't. I mean I tread super fucking carefully around this, because I've lived under a universal health system and it failed me hardcore, multiple times. I know the prevailing sentiment though - it's not a conversation we can have in [chat]. Three posts in, people would be flipping out. It's just not worth it.

    There's no upside to this conversation, but this time around, I couldn't help but at least mention that there is a reasonable discussion of pros and cons to be had - we just can't do it because I'm on the "heartless" side. Even though I'm on this side because I've experienced how terrible "universal" care can be.

    Even that last sentence is apt to get people raging at me.

    If your answer to this is "Medicaid/Medicare" you have not lived under a universal healthcare system... but; Which one?

    Republic of Ireland, 2001 - 2005.

    spool32 on
  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    you know what is pimp

    the fact that i will have to go on disability to pay for my medications when i move out because right now i take 7+ pills a day to stay stable

    and my family is judging me for it and saying that i don't really need all those pills and maybe i should just work harder at my job instead of taking advantage of taxpayers

    lol

    Man, your family. Have you tried merciless, scathing commentary on their own life choices? I found that my mom learned not to give unsolicited opinions once she realized that it would lead to rhetorically prickly conversation.

    this depends on a person having a modicum of reason and self-awareness and ability to perceive their own doublethink

    this is not a common quality when you're talking to members of your family

  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    i either like coffee black

    or with a lottttttt of sugar and cream

    iced coffee (black) is my favorite

    Cold-brew in the french press is awesome

  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Yep. That's why I don't. I mean I tread super fucking carefully around this, because I've lived under a universal health system and it failed me hardcore, multiple times. I know the prevailing sentiment though - it's not a conversation we can have in [chat]. Three posts in, people would be flipping out. It's just not worth it.

    There's no upside to this conversation, but this time around, I couldn't help but at least mention that there is a reasonable discussion of pros and cons to be had - we just can't do it because I'm on the "heartless" side. Even though I'm on this side because I've experienced how terrible "universal" care can be.

    Even that last sentence is apt to get people raging at me.

    IIRC it was Northern Ireland you stayed in (or was it Eire)? When was this? Cos if it was Northern Ireland then yeah, you got shafted with the NHS, and even these days it's still 50% worse in most of NI than the rest of the UK.

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    ah ok EM i didn't see it at first

    thanks!

    i will keep that in mind

    if you ever need me to look at a specific text for pointers that is where i specialize

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    if it weren't for universal health care my family would be bankrupt and i would be dead

    so yeah i do kind of get annoyed when people criticize it

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    I wonder what kind of medical coverage I will have if I end up working in Japan...

  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    @BobCesca it was the RoI, and it was universally terrible.

  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    Thanatos wrote: »
    The problem with Canadian healthcare is that compared to most other first-world countries, it's shit. I mean, compared to America, it's awesome, but compared to, like, the UK, or Scandinavia (yes, I know it's not a country), or France it's total shit. It's also the closest country to the U.S., so it's what we look to when we think of socialized medicine, so the fact that it's such shit makes it less likely that we'll ever get socialized medicine here (especially with Harper making it even worse).

    As an aside, do you know where by far the most efficient healthcare in the U.S. is done? The Mayo Clinic. Do you know how they do it? They model themselves after socialized medicine.

    I like this post. :^:

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    desc I love you bro but you are wrong about coffee.

    I'm not, but that's really a distant seconday issue to you needing to promise me you don't actually say things about black coffee and manliness out loud to humans

    Seriously

    You get what a cliche it is though right

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    i either like coffee black

    or with a lottttttt of sugar and cream

    iced coffee (black) is my favorite

    Cold-brew in the french press is awesome

    Yes it is so good!

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Organichu wrote: »
    ah ok EM i didn't see it at first

    thanks!

    i will keep that in mind

    if you ever need me to look at a specific text for pointers that is where i specialize

    if i take a writing course in the fall i'm sure i'll be coming to you often

    you know, to add variety to all those times when i come on you

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    there's lots of places where Canadian health care is lacking and shitty and markedly inferior to like

    Switzerland's or Germany's

    but eh

    when I needed it to be there for me

    it was

    the fact that I have to shake it by the shoulders and scream at it sometimes sucks but at least I have that option

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