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Superman vs Goku: Who would win??

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
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    Buttlord wrote: »
    superman is literally jesus apparently (i do like that page of him stopping a jumper, because that's totally a thing superman would do. the jesus thing? eh not so much)

    Know who wrote that page?

    Garth Ennis.

    Know what happens to every other superhero when Ennis writes them?

    i like that ennis hates superheros but i hate that this means people dismiss The Boys out of hand

    because its not about how superheros suck

    i mean it is according to one of the characters but it's really not

    it's about how having absolute power is corrupting and about competence vs incompetence and long plans and slow burns

    I've read a few trades of The Boys

    and it's not good

    it's saying the things you say it is but those themes are couched in Ennis-bullshit

    and I'm not putting up with Ennis-bullshit unless it's Hellblazer or Hitman

    the first 2-3 trades are not good

    once you get past that it's pretty great

    it also helps when you realize that literally nobody except Hughie and Annie are remotely close to being good guys and that you're not supposed to agree with anything butcher says

    I have my doubts

    and I don't have the time for Ennis

    he is the Chuck Palahniuk of comics

    let's not get carried away here

    ennis has written some absolutely incredible shit

    his punisher max run is pretty mcuh the best punisher story ever told (follwed by jason aaron's Max series)

    I tried to read punisher max but it's got all the same stupid horseshit tropes and awful dialogue that Ennis puts in everything

    Hitman was amazing, though

    his run on Hellblazer was really good (but so far nobody has had a bad run on Hellblazer)

    Preacher was...well, it was good, but the more of Ennis' work I read, the less I like Preacher

    if by the same bullshit tropes that are in everything you mean a thing about the troubles and also "the MIC is a bunch of assholes and the real bad guys"

    and the second was handled really goddamn well

    his punsiher is fantastic

    long cold dark is probably my favorite punisher story ever

    no, I'm mostly talking about his tendency to be EXTREME for its own sake

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    I liked the first bit of JMS's run on Amazing, but after the whole Ezekiel story ended, it went completely to shit and I don't understand what happened.

    no that part ruled to dang what is wrong with people

    that islike

    the one thing i wish hadn't been handwaved away

    i love the idea of his powers being science-based but with some weird mystical connection to a spider totem

    that owned

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    The Other kind of went off the rails, though

    And Sins Past. Jesus Christ.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    The Other kind of went off the rails, though

    And Sins Past. Jesus Christ.

    That's what I'm talking about. Sins Past was the FIRST story arc immediately following the Ezekiel wrap up. It seriously hit me like a train, I was like what the fuck is going on here

    And immediately stopped reading it

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    I enjoyed most of Ennis's run on Punisher.

    I absolutely hated Jason Aaron's, though.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    But there's lots of cool stuff too, like Happy Birthday

    That future Spider-Man suit, with the jacket, awesome

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Shorty wrote: »

    no, I'm mostly talking about his tendency to be EXTREME for its own sake

    this isn't a thing that happens in his max run really though

    the super explicit shit is maybe 10% of the violence in the book

    and it's brief enough to be shocking without getting old

    and it usually serves a purpose (which is usually showing exactly how fucked a situation is/how pissed off frank is)

    read The Slavers

    it is seriously the height of his run and requires basically zero knowledge of the rest of the series

    i agree that ennis has a tendency to be super extreme but in the last few years he's managed to reign himself in and at least have the extreme shit have a narrative purpose

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    The Other kind of went off the rails, though

    And Sins Past. Jesus Christ.

    sins past didn't happen

    that story doesn't exist

    i don't know what you're talking about

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    but really the best punisher story is jason aaron's max book

    about frank going after the kingpin for twenty-two issues

    spoilers at the end frank dies

    and not some bullshit thing like he's the spirit and he's faking being dead

    no he's a sixty year old man who's been murdering people for forty years and he finally couldn't carry on anymore

    it's fucking great

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    Ugh no... God, I hated Aaron's run on Punisher. Like, loathed it more than than anything in recent memory, except maybe some Mark Millar comics I read by accident once.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Ugh no... God, I hated Aaron's run on Punisher. Like, loathed it more than than anything in recent memory, except maybe some Mark Millar comics I read by accident once.

    what the hell is wrong with you

    that shit was great

    the whole thing with bullseye, already a fucking loon, trying to get inside frank's head and finally realizing that frank didn't become the punisher because his family died

    his familly died so that he could be the punisher

    that was great

    ennis alludes to it in Born but aaron sat down and showed us that no frank castle the family man died in vietnam

    frank's always been good at killing

    his family was just the excuse he needed to give himself to do it full time

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Ugh no... God, I hated Aaron's run on Punisher. Like, loathed it more than than anything in recent memory, except maybe some Mark Millar comics I read by accident once.

    what the hell is wrong with you

    that shit was great

    the whole thing with bullseye, already a fucking loon, trying to get inside frank's head and finally realizing that frank didn't become the punisher because his family died

    his familly died so that he could be the punisher

    that was great

    Oh, you mean that bit of characterization that took him like 6 issues to finally divulge, and then another 6 to "explore" through flashbacks? Yeah that was great. Honestly, it was a neat idea for a new take on the character, but everything that surrounded it was awful.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Who's a six issue arc devoted to showing a new facet of a character get outta here with that that shit

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    superman is literally jesus apparently (i do like that page of him stopping a jumper, because that's totally a thing superman would do. the jesus thing? eh not so much)

    he's been a jesus analogue since the golden age

    but he was made by the children of jewish immigrants

    which is approximately as ironic as hitler getting punched out by the aryan ubermensch

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    I love Superman.

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    jesus christ you guys are fucking nerds

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    just saying

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Comic nerds are still better than Bronies. Just saying.

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    NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    jesus christ you guys are fucking nerds

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    I enjoyed most of Ennis's run on Punisher.

    I absolutely hated Jason Aaron's, though.

    What possibly could you have hated about it? The art?

    I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »

    no, I'm mostly talking about his tendency to be EXTREME for its own sake

    this isn't a thing that happens in his max run really though

    the super explicit shit is maybe 10% of the violence in the book

    and it's brief enough to be shocking without getting old

    and it usually serves a purpose (which is usually showing exactly how fucked a situation is/how pissed off frank is)

    read The Slavers

    it is seriously the height of his run and requires basically zero knowledge of the rest of the series

    i agree that ennis has a tendency to be super extreme but in the last few years he's managed to reign himself in and at least have the extreme shit have a narrative purpose

    The Slavers is a fantastic piece of comic writing. It is possibly my favourite Punisher story (all of my favourite ones are by Ennis and from his MAX series) and shows just how good Ennis can really be.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    but seriously though goku would kick superman's ass so hard he'd have to go into like eight healing comas at once

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Yeah but Goku is Goku and Superman is Superman AKA not a loser like Goku

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    KEITH.

    Keith.

    Is this regular Goku or Dad Goku?

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    GRMike wrote: »
    KEITH.

    Keith.

    Is this regular Goku or Dad Goku?

    it's not Dad Goku, it's Son Goku

    jeez

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    ugh

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    GRMike wrote: »
    KEITH.

    Keith.

    Is this regular Goku or Dad Goku?


    it's not Dad Goku, it's Son Goku

    jeez

    You didn't understand my question and YOU ARE NOT KEITH!
    <3

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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    I pitched this to DC for a laugh years back. The idea was that, like Death of Superman, we had Rape of Wonder Woman; a twenty-two page rape scene that opened up into a gatefold at the end just like Superman did.

    Do not have a cow, mortal.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Jesus Christ Mark. What the hell is wrong with you?

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Any respect I had for that man just look a running leap out the window.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    If you didn't already know that Mark Millar thinks rape is funny, you must not have read much of his stuff.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »

    no, I'm mostly talking about his tendency to be EXTREME for its own sake

    this isn't a thing that happens in his max run really though

    the super explicit shit is maybe 10% of the violence in the book

    and it's brief enough to be shocking without getting old

    and it usually serves a purpose (which is usually showing exactly how fucked a situation is/how pissed off frank is)

    read The Slavers

    it is seriously the height of his run and requires basically zero knowledge of the rest of the series

    i agree that ennis has a tendency to be super extreme but in the last few years he's managed to reign himself in and at least have the extreme shit have a narrative purpose

    that was not the impression I got

    and it shows in the dialogue, too

    like there's a part early in punisher MAX where some goombas are in a place where clam chowder is traditionally tomato-based and therefore red, not white

    one of them orders some for lunch and is not pleased with this

    he yells at the waitress and tells her to bring take it back and bring him chowder that "she didn't have her period in"

    hrrrrRRRRRRRRGHGHHGHGHHG

    that is so fucking stupid

    SO STUPID

    the dumbest

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    Superman vs. Goku in what?

    Race? Goku (unless he's not allowed to Instant Transmission, then he can only win if the race doesn't involve traveling into space)
    Fight? Superman (no contest)
    Eating contest? Goku
    Writing contest? Superman (also probably applies to any kind of test or academic contest)
    Fishing contest? Goku
    Leadership Abilities? Superman
    Most Facebook Friends? Superman (Mr. Satan might beat him, though)

    Nah, let's settle this with the most important metric: which one has punched more monkeys/apes?

    Even though Saiyans are basically monkey people, Goku has only gotten to punch a handful of them, whereas Superman has punched more monkeys than you can shake a stick at. Thus Superman is the winner.

    you're a good person

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    Superman vs. Goku in what?

    Race? Goku (unless he's not allowed to Instant Transmission, then he can only win if the race doesn't involve traveling into space)
    Fight? Superman (no contest)
    Eating contest? Goku
    Writing contest? Superman (also probably applies to any kind of test or academic contest)
    Fishing contest? Goku
    Leadership Abilities? Superman
    Most Facebook Friends? Superman (Mr. Satan might beat him, though)

    Nah, let's settle this with the most important metric: which one has punched more monkeys/apes?

    Even though Saiyans are basically monkey people, Goku has only gotten to punch a handful of them, whereas Superman has punched more monkeys than you can shake a stick at. Thus Superman is the winner.

    you're a good person

    Yeah, there's wisdom in that post

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »

    no, I'm mostly talking about his tendency to be EXTREME for its own sake

    this isn't a thing that happens in his max run really though

    the super explicit shit is maybe 10% of the violence in the book

    and it's brief enough to be shocking without getting old

    and it usually serves a purpose (which is usually showing exactly how fucked a situation is/how pissed off frank is)

    read The Slavers

    it is seriously the height of his run and requires basically zero knowledge of the rest of the series

    i agree that ennis has a tendency to be super extreme but in the last few years he's managed to reign himself in and at least have the extreme shit have a narrative purpose

    that was not the impression I got

    and it shows in the dialogue, too

    like there's a part early in punisher MAX where some goombas are in a place where clam chowder is traditionally tomato-based and therefore red, not white

    one of them orders some for lunch and is not pleased with this

    he yells at the waitress and tells her to bring take it back and bring him chowder that "she didn't have her period in"

    hrrrrRRRRRRRRGHGHHGHGHHG

    that is so fucking stupid

    SO STUPID

    the dumbest

    that dude is also explicitly a psychopath with horrendous rage issues so maybe oging "ugh the super mad crazy guy acted super mad and crazy" is a bad argument

    read The Slavers

    nobody doesn't like The Slavers

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    The thing about superman that pisses me off is that he never trains or anything. Just whelp got my powers, let's go kick butt.
    incorrect


    every person who thinks that Superman would lose doesn't know a thing about Superman

    i submit that as a girl you don't know shit about comics and furthermore

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    i don't expect anyone to read that whole fucking thing

    I might if the print wasn't so damn tiny

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    GRMike wrote: »
    KEITH.

    Keith.

    Is this regular Goku or Dad Goku?

    it's not Dad Goku, it's Son Goku

    jeez
    best post itt please shut it all down

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    MizuumiMizuumi pet dog you've been eating my video game how could you eat my video gameRegistered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    KEITH.

    Keith.

    Is this regular Goku or Dad Goku?

    it's not Dad Goku, it's Son Goku

    jeez
    best post itt please shut it all down

    idgi

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    MizuumiMizuumi pet dog you've been eating my video game how could you eat my video gameRegistered User regular
    whats a goku

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    MizuumiMizuumi pet dog you've been eating my video game how could you eat my video gameRegistered User regular
    what the fuck is all this

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    The thing about superman that pisses me off is that he never trains or anything. Just whelp got my powers, let's go kick butt.
    incorrect


    every person who thinks that Superman would lose doesn't know a thing about Superman

    i submit that as a girl you don't know shit about comics and furthermore

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    i don't expect anyone to read that whole fucking thing

    I might if the print wasn't so damn tiny
    changed it to link to the full-size (use the one in this post)

    and trust me

    you don't want to read it

    Buttlord on
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