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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    there's an awesome computer build thread in the tech forum

    though I'd help here if I knew anything

    it's intimidating

    I ask my noob questions here first

    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok now people tell me how to build my computer

    To get good info about computer purchases you need to decide either how much you want to spend or what is the minimum you want it to be able to do (eg: "run game X at max settings"). If you don't nail one one of the variables (preferably price) it's not really possible to say what purchase would be best.

    run Diablo III at max or close to it

    not explode

    laptop? If not, then do you have anything from an old computer you can reuse like monitors, keyboard, mouse, windows license, DVD drive etc... Those little things add up.

    oh yeah I've got my computer and monitor

    I just want to get an actual video card, new power supply, and add some RAM

    but I dunno about video cards!

    It's not usually that easy to "add ram", or simply plug in a video card. Unfortunately.

    If your computer is a pre-built deal (Dell or the like), then odds are good it wasn't designed with "upgrade later" in mind. If that's the case, you'll pretty much need a brand new everything; the good news is, a mid-range is pretty cheap. I think I spent around 700 a few years ago, and I was going for a little over mid-range.

    it was built by me with help from someone else, with upgrade later in mind

    so I don't really want a whole new one right now

    I know I can get a very appreciable upgrade by getting an actual video card

    Oh, good. Didn't mean to insult, but I wasn't sure - you named yourself noob, after all. :)
    well like

    I'm not sure what PCI is exactly

    I am aware that it is a type of slot!

    also

    what is overclocking

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Ooooh, Mechwarrior Online is looking sweet as heck.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    @Elldren I am sorry I missed your message on Steam. I was at school and left my desktop on.

    Mazzyx on
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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok now people tell me how to build my computer

    To get good info about computer purchases you need to decide either how much you want to spend or what is the minimum you want it to be able to do (eg: "run game X at max settings"). If you don't nail one one of the variables (preferably price) it's not really possible to say what purchase would be best.


    run Diablo III at max or close to it

    not explode

    laptop? If not, then do you have anything from an old computer you can reuse like monitors, keyboard, mouse, windows license, DVD drive etc... Those little things add up.

    oh yeah I've got my computer and monitor

    I just want to get an actual video card, new power supply, and add some RAM

    but I dunno about video cards!

    yeah, video card market changes so bloody fast it's crazy.

    Well as a starting point checking out Newegg and sorting by "best rating" is pretty handy.

    One thing I've found with motherboards and ram is that every motherboard has a list of specific RAM brands and model #s that they have tested as working on that board (usually on the website for the mobo manufacturer). I always buy off that list even if its a few bucks more. So worth it as minor RAM incompatability differences (like voltage) are a horrible pain to diagnose.

    oh nice I will check into that for my RAM

    here is approximately customer rated tops on TigerDIrect http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41125&CatId=3669

    newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 (same thing?)

    Yeah I think that's the same card.

    If that price range is comfortable, then that is a damn nice card.

    So, the main thing will be to make sure you have a motherboard that it can fit into. It needs a "PCI Express 2.0 x16" slot. The other issue will be that it suggests a minimum of a 400 watt power supply in the system.

    Also note it has 2 DVI and 1 mini-HDMI plugs on the back (it can handle up to 2 monitors at once). So make sure your monitor(s) can hook up to those or pick up an adapter.

    Oh and the thing is pretty bulky. If you have a normal case that wont be an issue but if you have one of those tiny desktop ones then you'll want to check the exact size to make sure it will fit.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    there's an awesome computer build thread in the tech forum

    though I'd help here if I knew anything

    it's intimidating

    I ask my noob questions here first

    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac

    good one skip

    I'd rather have an iPad to replace my Lenovo laptop tho

    So It Goes on
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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    So I picked up Perdido Street Station but stalled out about thirty pages in. Someone tell me something great about it to get me reinterested.

    i think mieville is wildly overrated

    i know i'm not helping

    I'm still so damn conflicted on The City and The City.

    I liked it

    embassytown was his best book I think

    and I really like his bas lag stuff so

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    Cambiata on
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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    there's an awesome computer build thread in the tech forum

    though I'd help here if I knew anything

    it's intimidating

    I ask my noob questions here first

    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac

    good one skip

    I'd rather have an iPad to replace my Lenovo laptop tho

    I have only recently started to feel that my 2008 imac is not up to snuff

    but I don't want to spend money on a new computer nooo

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    4 years is a good run for a computer though

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    cool good to know, thanks

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok now people tell me how to build my computer

    To get good info about computer purchases you need to decide either how much you want to spend or what is the minimum you want it to be able to do (eg: "run game X at max settings"). If you don't nail one one of the variables (preferably price) it's not really possible to say what purchase would be best.

    run Diablo III at max or close to it

    not explode

    laptop? If not, then do you have anything from an old computer you can reuse like monitors, keyboard, mouse, windows license, DVD drive etc... Those little things add up.

    oh yeah I've got my computer and monitor

    I just want to get an actual video card, new power supply, and add some RAM

    but I dunno about video cards!

    It's not usually that easy to "add ram", or simply plug in a video card. Unfortunately.

    If your computer is a pre-built deal (Dell or the like), then odds are good it wasn't designed with "upgrade later" in mind. If that's the case, you'll pretty much need a brand new everything; the good news is, a mid-range is pretty cheap. I think I spent around 700 a few years ago, and I was going for a little over mid-range.

    it was built by me with help from someone else, with upgrade later in mind

    so I don't really want a whole new one right now

    I know I can get a very appreciable upgrade by getting an actual video card

    Oh, good. Didn't mean to insult, but I wasn't sure - you named yourself noob, after all. :)
    well like

    I'm not sure what PCI is exactly

    I am aware that it is a type of slot!

    also

    what is overclocking

    overclocking is when you fiddle with a device to make it run at a faster speed than it does out of the box (usually also providing more power in the process). This makes it generate a lot more heat and can cause all kinds of problems (up to and including melting) if you don't have enough cooling. Or if you just happened to get the wrong batch of part (since it is running outside the safe design specs).

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    4 years is a good run for a computer though

    6 years is better.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok now people tell me how to build my computer

    To get good info about computer purchases you need to decide either how much you want to spend or what is the minimum you want it to be able to do (eg: "run game X at max settings"). If you don't nail one one of the variables (preferably price) it's not really possible to say what purchase would be best.


    run Diablo III at max or close to it

    not explode

    laptop? If not, then do you have anything from an old computer you can reuse like monitors, keyboard, mouse, windows license, DVD drive etc... Those little things add up.

    oh yeah I've got my computer and monitor

    I just want to get an actual video card, new power supply, and add some RAM

    but I dunno about video cards!

    yeah, video card market changes so bloody fast it's crazy.

    Well as a starting point checking out Newegg and sorting by "best rating" is pretty handy.

    One thing I've found with motherboards and ram is that every motherboard has a list of specific RAM brands and model #s that they have tested as working on that board (usually on the website for the mobo manufacturer). I always buy off that list even if its a few bucks more. So worth it as minor RAM incompatability differences (like voltage) are a horrible pain to diagnose.

    oh nice I will check into that for my RAM

    here is approximately customer rated tops on TigerDIrect http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41125&CatId=3669

    newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 (same thing?)

    Yeah I think that's the same card.

    If that price range is comfortable, then that is a damn nice card.

    So, the main thing will be to make sure you have a motherboard that it can fit into. It needs a "PCI Express 2.0 x16" slot. The other issue will be that it suggests a minimum of a 400 watt power supply in the system.

    Also note it has 2 DVI and 1 mini-HDMI plugs on the back (it can handle up to 2 monitors at once). So make sure your monitor(s) can hook up to those or pick up an adapter.

    Oh and the thing is pretty bulky. If you have a normal case that wont be an issue but if you have one of those tiny desktop ones then you'll want to check the exact size to make sure it will fit.

    yeah I have a regular case so that shouldn't be an issue

    gonna get a beefy PSU I think

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    4 years is a good run for a computer though

    6 years is better.

    well, yes?

    I thought 18 months was a computer generation though

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    @Elldren I am sorry I missed your message on Steam. I was at school and left my desktop on.

    Mind answering my question then?

    fuck gendered marketing
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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    One day I will do a comedy routine about how white I am

    Psn:wazukki
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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    So I picked up Perdido Street Station but stalled out about thirty pages in. Someone tell me something great about it to get me reinterested.

    i think mieville is wildly overrated

    i know i'm not helping

    I'm still so damn conflicted on The City and The City.

    I liked it

    embassytown was his best book I think

    and I really like his bas lag stuff so

    Book spoiler:
    I just felt overall that he took the idea of how we "unsee" people on a daily basis, like the homeless, and tried to extend that metaphor to "what if we tried to unsee an entire culture that literally coexisted with us on every street?"

    The problem is that its stupid when it's extended that far because there is nothing to assist in the suspension of disbelief that such an extension requires. The Americans in the book even acknowledge the entire situation as pants on head dumb.

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    God, why do I ever not drink 3 shots of whiskey an hour?

    Psn:wazukki
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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    God, why do I ever not drink 3 shots of whiskey an hour?

    because drinking before you go to sleep drastically reduces the quality of the sleep you have

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    God this game

    fuck gendered marketing
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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    God, why do I ever not drink 3 shots of whiskey an hour?

    Because real men drink 3 snifters of single-malt scotch?

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    God this game

    ?

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    SiG, one program that can tell you a lot about what you have in your computer right now is called "dxdiag" (it comes with windows)

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    cool good to know, thanks

    SIG, I am going to counter this and say I have had more problems with the computer than ran nvidia than I have had in my time with ATI cards. I am currently on ATI card 5 or 6 in a row through different upgrades and computer builds. And have only had one problem with an actual bad/blown out card in the over 12+ years of using them.

    Basically it all comes down to luck with your video cards. Some people swear by nvidia and others by ati. And both companies go through different rotations on who is faster/more stable ever year or so.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    ok cool I got a handle on this

    now everyone can join me in making fun of the bf for ordering a water cooled system this weekend :P

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    Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Welp, birthday time.

    I'm at that point where I utterly despise every additional number added to my age, but at least I have a fun day planned. Going to watch me some Avengers in 3D.

    Usually a big budget movie is all I need. I'll probably get some birthday cash, but I'm debating between Max Payne 3 and Diablo III.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    The rain, thunder, and lightning have stopped.

    I am going to bed now. Good night, [chat]!

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    water cooled systems are hilarious because they're totally unnecessary now

    sexy, though

    tyrannus on
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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    cool good to know, thanks

    SIG, I am going to counter this and say I have had more problems with the computer than ran nvidia than I have had in my time with ATI cards. I am currently on ATI card 5 or 6 in a row through different upgrades and computer builds. And have only had one problem with an actual bad/blown out card in the over 12+ years of using them.

    Basically it all comes down to luck with your video cards. Some people swear by nvidia and others by ati. And both companies go through different rotations on who is faster/more stable ever year or so.

    this is true. Though the particular card she linked was averaging a 5 star (out of 5) rating on newegg with over 500 reviews. And packed a nice punch in terms of specs for the price.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Welp, birthday time.

    I'm at that point where I utterly despise every additional number added to my age, but at least I have a fun day planned. Going to watch me some Avengers in 3D.

    Usually a big budget movie is all I need. I'll probably get some birthday cash, but I'm debating between Max Payne 3 and Diablo III.

    Diablo 3 is probably a better bang-for-buck. I'd rent Max Payne 3 instead.

    And have fun. Avengers is the shiz-nit.

    DoctorArch on
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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok cool I got a handle on this

    now everyone can join me in making fun of the bf for ordering a water cooled system this weekend :P

    hahahaha i bet he likes books about hackers.

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    cool good to know, thanks

    SIG, I am going to counter this and say I have had more problems with the computer than ran nvidia than I have had in my time with ATI cards. I am currently on ATI card 5 or 6 in a row through different upgrades and computer builds. And have only had one problem with an actual bad/blown out card in the over 12+ years of using them.

    Basically it all comes down to luck with your video cards. Some people swear by nvidia and others by ati. And both companies go through different rotations on who is faster/more stable ever year or so.

    Well when I say problems, I don't mean with the video card working on my computer. I mean a game comes out, and I can't play it right away because there's an issue that only happens with ATI cards. This didn't happen with just one game; it seemed to happen with every single game that came out. Some obscure glitch that would only happen with ATI. If you're not doing any gaming with it, you would probably never would have noticed a problem with ATI.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    water cooled systems are hilarious because they're totally unnecessary now

    sexy, though

    I guess his components were JUST TOO BIG to fit the GIANT FAN necessary to cool them.

    (I'm secretly excited to see how it turns out!)

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    God this game

    ?

    Grizz Clippers

    fuck gendered marketing
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    diablo threeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    I can't believe it's for real and so soon

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    water cooled systems are hilarious because they're totally unnecessary now

    sexy, though

    a good one can, in theory, be a lot quieter than an air cooling system that can dissapate as much heat.

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    diablo threeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    I can't believe it's for real and so soon

    Goddamn I know. It is so close yet so far away. I am installing Diablo 2 right now.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ok cool I got a handle on this

    now everyone can join me in making fun of the bf for ordering a water cooled system this weekend :P

    hahahaha i bet he likes books about hackers.

    I bet you do too

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Oh, you just need a new video card? Well I'll say this much about that:

    Stay away from ATI/AMD. Seriously, if you want to game, STAY AWAY. I have had more problems with those video cards than a little. Usually if there's one particular bug that makes a game crash consistently, it "only happens on ATI/AMD cards" and you have to wait for a patch.

    Also when it comes to NVIDIA cards, I have had terrible luck with XFX. I bought a couple of XFX cards because they are cheaper, and those cards are among the few video cards I ever had that failed. I generally get EVGA cards.

    cool good to know, thanks

    SIG, I am going to counter this and say I have had more problems with the computer than ran nvidia than I have had in my time with ATI cards. I am currently on ATI card 5 or 6 in a row through different upgrades and computer builds. And have only had one problem with an actual bad/blown out card in the over 12+ years of using them.

    Basically it all comes down to luck with your video cards. Some people swear by nvidia and others by ati. And both companies go through different rotations on who is faster/more stable ever year or so.

    this is true. Though the particular card she linked was averaging a 5 star (out of 5) rating on newegg with over 500 reviews. And packed a nice punch in terms of specs for the price.

    I'm not the one that linked that one, but it's certainly not a bad card.

    My PC is currently using this one, and lordy is it a dream. I haven't thrown anything at this puppy that it can't run yet. Granted it is a little pricy, but If you do a lot of gaming I think it's worth it.

    Cambiata on
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