Options

The Avengers! or why a Justice League film can't succeed!

12467102

Posts

  • Options
    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    clearly the Lokilluminati was the only option

    because stupid people

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »

    Who saw this coming?!?

    me

    I did

    Wait.

    Disney likes money?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »

    Who saw this coming?!?

    me

    I did

    Wait.

    Disney likes money?

    Luckily they're the only ones. Every other entertainment company and major corporation really just cares about the consumer and doing their job to provide quality goods and services.

  • Options
    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »

    Who saw this coming?!?

    me

    I did

    Wait.

    Disney likes money?

    Turns out.

  • Options
    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    moocow wrote: »
    I have a tangentially related story!

    Just saw Avengers tonight.
    My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.

    I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."

    Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.

    Movie was super great though.

    About 5 or 10 minutes in, I thought to myself after listening to a pithy one-liner or two "Oh yeeeah, Whedon did this."

    Also, I don't dig the whole Cinema Cafe idea. I want to focus on a movie I see in a theater, and I want to focus on a meal in a restaurant, I don't want to split my attention between the two. Regular theaters for me from now on!

    that scene is funny because
    hulk interrupts the beginning of loki's monologue to absolutely wipe the floor with a literal god

    fuck monologues

    hulk just cut to the chase and beat the shit out of a pompous asshole

  • Options
    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    The waitress=Sharon Carter theories are hilarious

    she is a waitress

    she does nothing other than be a pretty face to speak as the voice for everybody in NYC

    she isn't going to become a secret agent and also change her name from Beth
    She was Carter in the film during a Cap sub-plot. That got dumped for messing up the movie's tone. The 30 minutes of footage will be shown on the dvd IIRC. It's for the best, I want to see Amanda Rightetti reprising her role officially as Sharon Carter in Cap 2.
    You mind giving a source for that?

    CYpGAPn.png
  • Options
    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Ant-man! What about Ant-man, Disney? I wanna hear about Ant-Man!

  • Options
    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Ant-man! What about Ant-man, Disney? I wanna hear about Ant-Man!

    I heard Edgar Wright is directing

    which is perfect I think

  • Options
    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »

    Who saw this coming?!?

    me

    I did

    Wait.

    Disney likes money?

    Luckily they're the only ones. Every other entertainment company and major corporation really just cares about the consumer and doing their job to provide quality goods and services.

    Man, you stuck it out through that whole thing, bravo.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, big spoiler for the movie
    but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.

    Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.

    Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.

    Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.

    So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    It is nice that the Avengers
    are finally avenging someone

  • Options
    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Also, big spoiler for the movie
    but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.

    Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.

    Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.

    Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.

    So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
    I think that would really ruin the effort he made and cheapen it a great deal, so I kind of hope they let him stay dead. He got to shoot Loki and allowed the team to really around someone really important, the man who quite literally assembled the Avengers. He went out like a boss, let his moment go un-fiddled with.


  • Options
    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Also, big spoiler for the movie
    but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.

    Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.

    Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.

    Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.

    So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
    I think that would really ruin the effort he made and cheapen it a great deal, so I kind of hope they let him stay dead. He got to shoot Loki and allowed the team to really around someone really important, the man who quite literally assembled the Avengers. He went out like a boss, let his moment go un-fiddled with.


    As much as I loved the guy I agree with this.

  • Options
    existexist Registered User regular
    I agree with Sarukun
    Also the shooting him thing didn't really do anything which was a bummer. That thing was supposed to take on Destroyer?

    UmPiq.png
  • Options
    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    exist wrote: »
    I agree with Sarukun
    Also the shooting him thing didn't really do anything which was a bummer. That thing was supposed to take on Destroyer?
    No it was derived from the Destroyer

    hence why it had a similar glowy metal motif thing

    CYpGAPn.png
  • Options
    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Also, big spoiler for the movie
    but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.

    Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.

    Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.

    Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.

    So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
    fury also says he's dead when the medic team is on the way

    he decides to use coulson's death as their rallying moment

    occam's razor yo

  • Options
    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Joolander wrote: »
    Ant-man! What about Ant-man, Disney? I wanna hear about Ant-Man!

    I heard Edgar Wright is directing

    which is perfect I think

    And writing, yes.

    He's going to have 2 plotlines. One with Pym in the 60s, and another with a modern Ant Man.

    Probably Lang, which is too bad, but it sounds great.

    Not a comedy, apparently. Just an action sci-fi film with lots of good jokes.

  • Options
    existexist Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    exist wrote: »
    I agree with Sarukun
    Also the shooting him thing didn't really do anything which was a bummer. That thing was supposed to take on Destroyer?
    No it was derived from the Destroyer

    hence why it had a similar glowy metal motif thing

    Oh, okay, I must have misheard it.

    UmPiq.png
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Also, big spoiler for the movie
    but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.

    Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.

    Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.

    Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.

    So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
    I think that would really ruin the effort he made and cheapen it a great deal, so I kind of hope they let him stay dead. He got to shoot Loki and allowed the team to really around someone really important, the man who quite literally assembled the Avengers. He went out like a boss, let his moment go un-fiddled with.


    Well
    I'm saying they plant enough seeds for it to be there. It's not an extremely far out response. It's just the kind of manipulative subterfuge I'd expect from Fury.

    And it's that dichotomy of wanting the death to mean something and having finality to the arc and wanting to see that character in more shit.

    Dammit Whedon!

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    moocow wrote: »
    I have a tangentially related story!

    Just saw Avengers tonight.
    My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.

    I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."

    Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.

    Movie was super great though.

    About 5 or 10 minutes in, I thought to myself after listening to a pithy one-liner or two "Oh yeeeah, Whedon did this."

    Also, I don't dig the whole Cinema Cafe idea. I want to focus on a movie I see in a theater, and I want to focus on a meal in a restaurant, I don't want to split my attention between the two. Regular theaters for me from now on!

    that scene is funny because
    hulk interrupts the beginning of loki's monologue to absolutely wipe the floor with a literal god

    fuck monologues

    hulk just cut to the chase and beat the shit out of a pompous asshole
    it's funny because he's a god and he can't be killed. You can literally dish out any amount of punishment to him and it's just an inconvenience. You're taking this too seriously. He gets shot by lasers, lightning, bullets, and then pummeled by the hulk. He's like a cartoon character.

  • Options
    existexist Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    moocow wrote: »
    I have a tangentially related story!

    Just saw Avengers tonight.
    My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.

    I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."

    Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.

    Movie was super great though.

    About 5 or 10 minutes in, I thought to myself after listening to a pithy one-liner or two "Oh yeeeah, Whedon did this."

    Also, I don't dig the whole Cinema Cafe idea. I want to focus on a movie I see in a theater, and I want to focus on a meal in a restaurant, I don't want to split my attention between the two. Regular theaters for me from now on!

    that scene is funny because
    hulk interrupts the beginning of loki's monologue to absolutely wipe the floor with a literal god

    fuck monologues

    hulk just cut to the chase and beat the shit out of a pompous asshole
    it's funny because he's a god and he can't be killed. You can literally dish out any amount of punishment to him and it's just an inconvenience. You're taking this too seriously. He gets shot by lasers, lightning, bullets, and then pummeled by the hulk. He's like a cartoon character.
    Yeah, it's slapstick. It isn't like the elevator scene in Drive or anything. It is the least disturbing violence ever short of getting into Three Stooges territory

    UmPiq.png
  • Options
    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    it's also funny because of the thing i said though

  • Options
    AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    Yeah, it amounts to slapstick, like something that would happen in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

  • Options
    existexist Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.

    UmPiq.png
  • Options
    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    yeah that's the actual comedy, I just meant why that scene is also not serious or dark in any way.

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It's funny because
    oh wait now the joke is dead

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    meh

    imttnk.png
    PS4:MrZoompants
  • Options
    existexist Registered User regular
    Good response!

    UmPiq.png
  • Options
    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    moocow wrote: »
    meh

    thank you for this well thought out response to some pretty good explanations of why you approached that scene the wrong way

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    moocow wrote: »
    meh

    nL3TCFGEYE3GN.png
    imttnk.png

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    I dunno, I see where you guys are coming from on this, but it doesn't change my opinion. Thanks for engaging in discussion though.

    edit: Just making it clear, I was not being sarcastic in the above line, I appreciate the dialogue on this forum. :)

    moocow on
    imttnk.png
    PS4:MrZoompants
  • Options
    Binary SquidBinary Squid We all make choices Registered User regular
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.

  • Options
    A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    moocow wrote: »
    meh

    You would have been better off not responding. This just kinda underlines how stupid your post was.

  • Options
    Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    moocow wrote: »
    My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.

    I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."

    Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.

    To be fair, you completely missed the comedy cue in that scene. Everyone else saw it and picked up on it; you did not.

    HINT: it was not funny just because a dude was being savagely beaten.

    i don't think it counts as a savage beating if you don't actually get hurt.

  • Options
    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.
    I think, to some degree, they don't really know how exactly how mortal/immortal they are.

  • Options
    moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    Well, I put my foot in my mouth, so I apologize for that stupid "meh" post, it was shitty form and I'm out. Good night, everybody!

    imttnk.png
    PS4:MrZoompants
  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Javen wrote: »
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.
    I think, to some degree, they don't really know how exactly how mortal/immortal they are.
    They can get the shit beaten out of them, that's for sure. And there is some technological/magic reason for their invulnerability.

    I mean, it's obvious that Loki was done with fighting when Hulk went to town on him. Just want a drink, etc. Thor might have just wanted to avoid getting the shit kicked out of him.

    And that one guy got stabbed on the ice giant planet and they were concerned for his safety.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    Binary SquidBinary Squid We all make choices Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.
    I think, to some degree, they don't really know how exactly how mortal/immortal they are.
    I'd have to agree there. But, I'd imagine they do probably consider themselves to be killable until they find out differently. I don't think any Asgardian would want their last words to be "I'm Invincib....URK!"

  • Options
    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Javen wrote: »
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.
    I think, to some degree, they don't really know how exactly how mortal/immortal they are.
    I'd have to agree there. But, I'd imagine they do probably consider themselves to be killable until they find out differently. I don't think any Asgardian would want their last words to be "I'm Invincib....URK!"

    You know, I was just watching Goldeneye the other day.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Options
    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    exist wrote: »
    Yeah, that's also true. Also because of Loki's expression after.
    It wasn't so much the expression in the theatre I was in. Nobody actually laughed until after Loki gave that little groan. They were genuinely shocked by the fact that he could be dead, but as soon as he groaned, it was the cue that he was going to be ok. He just had some of his pride knocked out of him.

    I would imagine that there is a chance that they can die, though. Thor definitely took things seriously when
    he was falling from the Helicarrier in the prison container.
    Asgardians can die it's just their harder to kill than non-super powered mortals, excluding Captain America. Considering Loki's not a power house compared to warrior Asgardians like Thor, Sif and the Warrior's Three it is really impressive that he didn't suffer any major injuries from Hulk.

This discussion has been closed.