Really I would have the Justice League movie introduce Despero to a universe that is pretty similar to our own other than the superhumans running around
he would be the first outright supervillain, dudes like Superman and Batman had been stopping normal crimes up until he shows up
then when he is beaten have what's left of his fleet just shatter and break up all over Earth
the debris is quickly looted and scavanged and the experimental alien tech is what causes the first generation of supervillains to rise up
Wonder Woman would have Vandal Savage, who has been content to not really draw attention to himself but everything has gotten so interesting and he is so bored that he decides to have a little fun.
Superman would be Metallo, but with Luthor simmering in the background.
Flash would have a group of Rogues instead of just one villian. I'd go with Captain Cold, Weather Wizard and Mirror Master.
Green Lantern would be anyone but Sinestro. Maybe Lobo, presented as a straight up malicious alien mercenary instead of FRAG ME FOR A BASTICH
Batman would do Riddler, as Nolan hasn't used him yet and it would keep from retreading any of his films.
Aquaman would be Black Manta because that's really about all you've got, sadly.
Martian Manhunter wouldn't get a solo movie, as his origin would be the Justice League film.
then JL 2 would be the Legion of Doom bringing them all together via Brainiac.
So, as long as we're talking about potential villain choices, might I suggest one for a future Marvel movie? Since Marvel is a Disney subsidiary, I wouldn't consider it too out-of-bounds to cross-pollinate, as it were. I am, of course, referring to:
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I wasn't aware 300 was supposed to be historically accurate
Like I knew about the actual battle but around the time they depicted Xerxes as 15 feet tall I figured it might be a bit of a dramatization
snyder has said that the film is totally accurate as far as the events went
which, as I understand it, is mostly true, but leaves out things like:
1) thermopylae wasn't a terribly important battle
2) themistocles, athenian admiral, was waging war right next to Leonidas, in the sea, with a similarly-sized force of untrained citizen-sailors. and he was doing it better.
3) Sparta, glorious Sparta, was one of the most brutal slave societies in history
4) the battle shown at the very end, which I forget the name of, had more Athenians involved than Spartans, and it was the Athenians who turned the Persian flank. they're the real heroes. but it's kind of academic since, as I said above, this battle was also basically irrelevant; it was just a mopping-up action against forces that Xerxes had already abandoned (because the Athenian navy had already beaten his fleet).
Malefic is cool but I just don't think a Martian Manhunter movie would ever happen and that the villain of it shouldn't be a dude who is literally J'onn except evil
Ocean Master I'll give you
honestly they should just pull a Whiplash and combine Ocean Master and Black Manta for a film
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I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
that sounds awesome i'm instantly sold
mostly it is the fact he has every superpower that appeals to me
like i imagine the justice league rocking up all ho hum another generic alien conqueror wait help superman is attacking me and i'm trapped in an endless hall of mirrors
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
Public Awareness of Loki?
Of Thanos?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
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he looks like a big evil alien, could have multiple toys made since he can shapeshift a little bit and is big and scary enough to fight the whole League solo
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
Public Awareness of Loki?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
why the fuck would you put a spoiler in a post I'm going to have to quote
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
Public Awareness of Loki?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
why the fuck would you put a spoiler in a post I'm going to have to quote
I haven't seen the avengers yet, guy
You knew there was a spoiler why did you quote? YOu didn't have too.
i suppose the problem with the flash movie is that he is probably the superhero who makes the least amount of sense
i mean i think he's awesome but it's always been hard to reconcile 'can run at the speed of light' with any kind of coherent narrative that isn't over in under a second
and also you have to figure out how to represent the dude moving in a way that doesn't look weird in film
i mean in theory i'd want to use one of the villains who runs as fast as the flash can, so in the climactic battle they race around the world. but that's zoom and zoom isn't great.
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
Public Awareness of Loki?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
why the fuck would you put a spoiler in a post I'm going to have to quote
I haven't seen the avengers yet, guy
You knew there was a spoiler why did you quote? YOu didn't have too.
...because that's how conversations work? what are you, new?
I feel like the Justice League movie more or less has to be Darkseid, hey. Like I'm sure you've thought about this and have some solid reasons why not, but also, who the fuck is Despero?
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
Despero is an alien from the planet Kalanor, and in addition to a genius intellect possesses a third eye on his forehead capable of mind control, illusions, telekinesis, and telepathy. Despero is also empowered by the "Flame of Py'tar", a mystical source of power that grants superior strength, durability, and the ability to alter his mass (from human-sized to massive).
Basically Martian Manhunter with a splash of Hulk and a history as an alien warlord
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
Public Awareness of Loki?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
why the fuck would you put a spoiler in a post I'm going to have to quote
I haven't seen the avengers yet, guy
You knew there was a spoiler why did you quote? YOu didn't have too.
...because that's how conversations work? what are you, new?
Are you? You could have just responded to me.
I didn't force you to look at my clearly marked spoiler.
i suppose the problem with the flash movie is that he is probably the superhero who makes the least amount of sense
i mean i think he's awesome but it's always been hard to reconcile 'can run at the speed of light' with any kind of coherent narrative that isn't over in under a second
and also you have to figure out how to represent the dude moving in a way that doesn't look weird in film
i mean in theory i'd want to use one of the villains who runs as fast as the flash can, so in the climactic battle they race around the world. but that's zoom and zoom isn't great.
I'd just leave it at superspeed and not get into the whole "I destroy all of the laws of physics" thing
dude can run really fast and slow down time to a crawl
no faster than light running backwards in time shenanigans
oh and lots of speed tricks. Vibrating through walls, making tornados or spinning his arms to slow a fall.
and as much as I dislike most of Snyder's films, I think his slo-mo/fast-mo hybrid style would work great with Flash
but I'd want him done proper, 4th World and all, and there is no goddamn way that would fly in an intro Justice League film nor any film at all, realistically.
so why change him into a generic alien conqueror when you have a villain who can put up a similar challenge who is an alien conqueror
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
Sparta pretty much had an entire class of people they could kill at any time, and did so, like randomly, to sow confusion and fear among the underclass. For instance any gathering of 3 or more of the underclass (name escapes me at the moment), would often be randomly attacked and killed by Spartan soldiers in training.
It was totally legal and encouraged. Not surprisingly this underclass tried to kill all the Spartans when a massive earthquake almost wiped the young male population of Sparta out.
I love 300 tho, lotsa fun. I also snickered at the "Greeks, those boy lovers!?!?!" given that Sparta was the most flamboyantly and intrinsicly homosexual society the world has ever seen. Pretty much marraige and family were considered dangerous distractions from loyalty to the state, said loyalty was kept by having all the soldiers fall in love with their officers.
Sparta is the society other Greek societies thought was weird, and with good reason. Also the weirdo fundie conservatives of Greek states looooved Sparta for the purity of its man-boy love.
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also 300 was a shitty movie purely by virtue of being a shitty movie
if you're going to talk shit about its history that's fine but you have to be willing to apply the same criteria to pirates of the caribbean
they didn't go about to create a historically accurate movie based on real events. they created a treatment of an insane all nude fictional orgy.
all that crap sucked too
just cut everything out that doesn't deal with spartans killing persians
he would be the first outright supervillain, dudes like Superman and Batman had been stopping normal crimes up until he shows up
then when he is beaten have what's left of his fleet just shatter and break up all over Earth
the debris is quickly looted and scavanged and the experimental alien tech is what causes the first generation of supervillains to rise up
Wonder Woman would have Vandal Savage, who has been content to not really draw attention to himself but everything has gotten so interesting and he is so bored that he decides to have a little fun.
Superman would be Metallo, but with Luthor simmering in the background.
Flash would have a group of Rogues instead of just one villian. I'd go with Captain Cold, Weather Wizard and Mirror Master.
Green Lantern would be anyone but Sinestro. Maybe Lobo, presented as a straight up malicious alien mercenary instead of FRAG ME FOR A BASTICH
Batman would do Riddler, as Nolan hasn't used him yet and it would keep from retreading any of his films.
Aquaman would be Black Manta because that's really about all you've got, sadly.
Martian Manhunter wouldn't get a solo movie, as his origin would be the Justice League film.
then JL 2 would be the Legion of Doom bringing them all together via Brainiac.
This has been Blank's idea for a DC Movieverse.
David
Motherfucking
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snyder has said that the film is totally accurate as far as the events went
which, as I understand it, is mostly true, but leaves out things like:
1) thermopylae wasn't a terribly important battle
2) themistocles, athenian admiral, was waging war right next to Leonidas, in the sea, with a similarly-sized force of untrained citizen-sailors. and he was doing it better.
3) Sparta, glorious Sparta, was one of the most brutal slave societies in history
4) the battle shown at the very end, which I forget the name of, had more Athenians involved than Spartans, and it was the Athenians who turned the Persian flank. they're the real heroes. but it's kind of academic since, as I said above, this battle was also basically irrelevant; it was just a mopping-up action against forces that Xerxes had already abandoned (because the Athenian navy had already beaten his fleet).
J'onn has Malefic. His evil Darkseid worshipping brother.
Aquaman has Ocean Master, too.
Ocean Master I'll give you
honestly they should just pull a Whiplash and combine Ocean Master and Black Manta for a film
oh flash.
would be pretty okay with making Gargoyles part of Marvel canon
They just have goofy names
seeing that in the theater was fucking incredible
not totally outside the realm of possibility
they are a disney property, aren't they?
Yes.
also the Flash has a great rogue's gallery of Spiderman villains. the problem is that he's the Flash. that said the three you mentioned are pretty fantastic and could probably give the dude a run for his money. if you're going balls-out silver age i'd also be tempted to use Gorilla Grodd.
I'd prefer if they expanded the gargoyles line as they originally intended.
I think it was something of a rhetorical question
public awareness of Despero is next to zero
how popular a villain is isn't a big deal, since only like 2-3 bad guys in all of comics are super popular with more than just the readers.
that sounds awesome i'm instantly sold
mostly it is the fact he has every superpower that appeals to me
like i imagine the justice league rocking up all ho hum another generic alien conqueror wait help superman is attacking me and i'm trapped in an endless hall of mirrors
Weather Wizard in particular looks ballin
Public Awareness of Loki?
of Whiplash?
of the Penguin?
of Paralax?
hey, you don't have to convince me
I'm all for obscure villains
put fuckin' Crazy Quilt in the next Batman movie
it's film execs who have to be convinced
edit: and also don't put an unnecessary spoiler in a post I'm going to quote
I haven't seen the Avengers, dude, you kind of just fucked that up for me
he looks like a big evil alien, could have multiple toys made since he can shapeshift a little bit and is big and scary enough to fight the whole League solo
are we getting that soon? i'd love to see manapul's take on him.
Seriously. I think the bigger thing you need is a Villain that can, in one way or another, get people excited in the Trailer.
why the fuck would you put a spoiler in a post I'm going to have to quote
I haven't seen the avengers yet, guy
you aren't Joe Public
also you should spoiler the first dude in your post
You knew there was a spoiler why did you quote? YOu didn't have too.
i mean i think he's awesome but it's always been hard to reconcile 'can run at the speed of light' with any kind of coherent narrative that isn't over in under a second
and also you have to figure out how to represent the dude moving in a way that doesn't look weird in film
i mean in theory i'd want to use one of the villains who runs as fast as the flash can, so in the climactic battle they race around the world. but that's zoom and zoom isn't great.
...because that's how conversations work? what are you, new?
Are you? You could have just responded to me.
I didn't force you to look at my clearly marked spoiler.
dude can run really fast and slow down time to a crawl
no faster than light running backwards in time shenanigans
oh and lots of speed tricks. Vibrating through walls, making tornados or spinning his arms to slow a fall.
and as much as I dislike most of Snyder's films, I think his slo-mo/fast-mo hybrid style would work great with Flash
you would just use darkseid
but I'd want him done proper, 4th World and all, and there is no goddamn way that would fly in an intro Justice League film nor any film at all, realistically.
so why change him into a generic alien conqueror when you have a villain who can put up a similar challenge who is an alien conqueror
bingo
It was totally legal and encouraged. Not surprisingly this underclass tried to kill all the Spartans when a massive earthquake almost wiped the young male population of Sparta out.
I love 300 tho, lotsa fun. I also snickered at the "Greeks, those boy lovers!?!?!" given that Sparta was the most flamboyantly and intrinsicly homosexual society the world has ever seen. Pretty much marraige and family were considered dangerous distractions from loyalty to the state, said loyalty was kept by having all the soldiers fall in love with their officers.
Sparta is the society other Greek societies thought was weird, and with good reason. Also the weirdo fundie conservatives of Greek states looooved Sparta for the purity of its man-boy love.
Amazingly though I still unashamedly love 300.