Lets not harsh on Spool guys. I am willing to believe that his cite of Bain's wiki page was a good faith argument. Its just that Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable when it comes to controversial issues and you have to be wary of people trying to pull a fast one on you.
Good rule of thumb is: If its pop culture, wiki is usually good. If its politics, watch out.
Its one of the reasons D&D politics threads are so good. We got people willing to check and post quality sources on the issues.
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I see. Because the page looks pretty and doesn't confirm your opinions, and because there are a lot of sources backing up what the page says, that means you should ignore all those primary sources and just go with what you believed.
This is your argument, guys? Really? There's too much information from the SEC for the page to be trustworthy? Here's a thing, you silly geese: You asked for a source, I gave you 90 fucking sources. Dig through them yourself and refute that shit if you still disagree, but stop pretending you're being skeptical when you're just being contrary.
Besides, this is a solid catch-22 you're driving toward - if Bain is terrible, they're terribly supporting a lot of Democrats who seem perfectly cool with that.
Edit: cheers, kipling. I no-sarcasm appreciate the benefit of the doubt, and you're right... I got asked for a source, I gave a source, no ulterior motive involved. The source confirmed what NPR reported, and I really don't know what else people want from me.
Fuck's sake.
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Jesus you guys are being dicks (Kipling excluded). Put up your own sources if it's all such obvious bullshit and maybe we can all learn something. It's not like spool was citing reason.com or the Heritage Foundation.
Here, 5 seconds on Google and I found the article that is the likely source for the Obama ad being discussed (haven't read it yet but maybe I will on my lunch):
I see. Because the page looks pretty and doesn't confirm your opinions, and because there are a lot of sources backing up what the page says, that means you should ignore all those primary sources and just go with what you believed.
This is your argument, guys? Really? There's too much information from the SEC for the page to be trustworthy? Here's a thing, you silly geese: You asked for a source, I gave you 90 fucking sources. Dig through them yourself and refute that shit if you still disagree, but stop pretending you're being skeptical when you're just being contrary.
Besides, this is a solid catch-22 you're driving toward - if Bain is terrible, they're terribly supporting a lot of Democrats who seem perfectly cool with that.
Edit: cheers, kipling. I no-sarcasm appreciate the benefit of the doubt, and you're right... I got asked for a source, I gave a source, no ulterior motive involved. The source confirmed what NPR reported, and I really don't know what else people want from me.
Fuck's sake.
The page was clearly written by someone at Bain, there's simply too much information, too well formatted and sourced for it to NOT be. Bain capital simply isn't as interesting as that page would indicate. It doesn't mean that it is wrong, but it will clearly have a biased view.
Oh, and Bain likely gives most of its money to Democrats because it is Boston based and does a large fraction of its business in Democrat controlled areas. While their work isn't friendly to Democratic goals, they still need contacts and 'favors' from state governments.
Lets not harsh on Spool guys. I am willing to believe that his cite of Bain's wiki page was a good faith argument. Its just that Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable when it comes to controversial issues and you have to be wary of people trying to pull a fast one on you.
Good rule of thumb is: If its pop culture, wiki is usually good. If its politics, watch out.
Its one of the reasons D&D politics threads are so good. We got people willing to check and post quality sources on the issues.
It's the reason I warn students in my breakouts that if they cite Wikipedia, I will bust them on it (I teach Intro to American History).
A good way to to tell if something is suspect is to compare different languages of Wikipedia articles, easily enough.
I'm picturing gangs of mohawked centrists roaming Washington on motorcycles, shooting down partisan rancor with their wrist-mounted crossbows while calling for a serious discussion about entitlement reform.
So it was Doug yesterday, and today they have a rabbi shilling for Romney (a totally non-partisan one who happens to appear on Hannity shilling for Romney!), so he posts this:
I love your writing because you’re one of the few bipartisan centrists who realize that both sides do it, where “it” is pretty much any bad thing. You’re like the rabbinical David Broder. Have you always been so fair and balanced or is it something you learn over time as a rabbi?
The rabbi also misses the sarcasm.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
So it was Doug yesterday, and today they have a rabbi shilling for Romney (a totally non-partisan one who happens to appear on Hannity shilling for Romney!), so he posts this:
I love your writing because you’re one of the few bipartisan centrists who realize that both sides do it, where “it” is pretty much any bad thing. You’re like the rabbinical David Broder. Have you always been so fair and balanced or is it something you learn over time as a rabbi?
On CNN's "The Situation Room" Tuesday, Trump maintained that Obama's birthplace is a matter of opinion, rather than fact.
I like how "Where was Obama born?" is given the same epistemological status as "Who's the best Spice Girl?"
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In other news, Fox News was tied to a massive pornography ring today after it was discovered that both Fox and Redtube use the "Flash" flamework to deliver content.
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Good rule of thumb is: If its pop culture, wiki is usually good. If its politics, watch out.
Its one of the reasons D&D politics threads are so good. We got people willing to check and post quality sources on the issues.
This is your argument, guys? Really? There's too much information from the SEC for the page to be trustworthy? Here's a thing, you silly geese: You asked for a source, I gave you 90 fucking sources. Dig through them yourself and refute that shit if you still disagree, but stop pretending you're being skeptical when you're just being contrary.
Besides, this is a solid catch-22 you're driving toward - if Bain is terrible, they're terribly supporting a lot of Democrats who seem perfectly cool with that.
Edit: cheers, kipling. I no-sarcasm appreciate the benefit of the doubt, and you're right... I got asked for a source, I gave a source, no ulterior motive involved. The source confirmed what NPR reported, and I really don't know what else people want from me.
Fuck's sake.
Here, 5 seconds on Google and I found the article that is the likely source for the Obama ad being discussed (haven't read it yet but maybe I will on my lunch):
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/05/20/all-tomorrows-barties/
I really wish that was a joke. I really do.
Oh, it is a joke. Just not the kind you laugh at.
The page was clearly written by someone at Bain, there's simply too much information, too well formatted and sourced for it to NOT be. Bain capital simply isn't as interesting as that page would indicate. It doesn't mean that it is wrong, but it will clearly have a biased view.
Oh, and Bain likely gives most of its money to Democrats because it is Boston based and does a large fraction of its business in Democrat controlled areas. While their work isn't friendly to Democratic goals, they still need contacts and 'favors' from state governments.
It's the reason I warn students in my breakouts that if they cite Wikipedia, I will bust them on it (I teach Intro to American History).
A good way to to tell if something is suspect is to compare different languages of Wikipedia articles, easily enough.
http://live.washingtonpost.com/compost-live-120522.html#Bipartisanship
Okay, I do have one thing to say - "post-punk David Broder" is in no way a term of praise.
It isn't the fisherman's fault when the fish takes the bait.
Yeah, no blame.
The rabbi also misses the sarcasm.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/24/2085882/sting-video-about-nc-voting-called.html
He's bringing his game to Twitter:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/05/24/twitter-how-does-it-work/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/29/firing-off-trump-stands-by-birther-comments/?hpt=hp_c1
As I said in the Election thread, when freaking Wolf Blitzer is calling you on your bullshit, you need to re-think what you're doing.
What an idiot.
I like how "Where was Obama born?" is given the same epistemological status as "Who's the best Spice Girl?"
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There, done.
In other news, Fox News was tied to a massive pornography ring today after it was discovered that both Fox and Redtube use the "Flash" flamework to deliver content.
http://wonkette.com/474804/hideous-3999-95-painting-of-andrew-breitbart-is-actually-swiped-from-a-video-game
*Wolf Blitzer, as a muppet secretly manufactured by Jim Henson just before he died, does not count.
http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/rss.jsp;jsessionid=40A6D72D0ED2422802811DA6B5A29FF8?rssid=4221521&item=http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/sally-quinn-announces-the-end-of-power-in-washington/2012/06/07/gJQA6iTcMV_mobile.mobile&cid=-1&spf=1
thats fantastic
so O'Keefe commits voter fraud to prove voter fraud is a problem
how he not in jail?
One better, put Obama's face under the hood.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mark-halperin-sucks-9717199#ixzz1xonzHyX3
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-perfect-politics-its-elementary/2012/06/13/gJQA9D5waV_story.html?hpid=z2
george will rages against eh liberal political machine wanting to restrict speech.....
by using an example of an elementary school student council election
Charlie's got what you need:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/george-will-politics-is-elementary-column-9748968
And it's George Effing Will, as in "George Effing Will could not be more of a tool if he had 'Craftsman' tattooed on his forehead."