6:56 PM - CorriganX: you're going to have to fight berry to the death
6:56 PM - SmokeStacks: oh man
6:56 PM - CorriganX: just remember, she hasnt had meat in years, you can overpower her
6:56 PM - SmokeStacks: hahaha
6:57 PM - SmokeStacks: I will use my secret fighting technique
6:57 PM - SmokeStacks: passed down among my people
6:57 PM - SmokeStacks: the coveted and dangerous
6:57 PM - SmokeStacks: bacon fist
I don't remember what I took. I'm pretty sure I was a cultural officer which i think helps me communicate with our enemies while we mercilessly murderdeathkill them
G2A and the like. A few folks here have mentioned using them. Are these things as sketchy as they can seem? Fascinating read.
I clearly need to spend more time at Polygon. That was a really interesting read. The only thing that I don't like is that they immediately assumed that the youtube person sold it. What's to say that the youtube person didn't give the key away (either the second one after redemption or the first if they didn't have time to cover the game but still wanted to request the developer's wishes) and it was that recipient who sold the Gravity Ghost key?
G2A and the like. A few folks here have mentioned using them. Are these things as sketchy as they can seem? Fascinating read.
I clearly need to spend more time at Polygon. That was a really interesting read. The only thing that I don't like is that they immediately assumed that the youtube person sold it. What's to say that the youtube person didn't give the key away (either the second one after redemption or the first if they didn't have time to cover the game but still wanted to request the developer's wishes) and it was that recipient who sold the Gravity Ghost key?
Of course, more than likely it was actually a scammer trying to get the key to resell anyway. Dan Teasdale of No Goblins says he spends a lot of time doing background checks on the review codes he's asked for, and a lot of them are just scammers using a famous youtube name to get a key.
Apparently we're prematurely celebrating @CorriganX's birthday with Russian fucks or something? I dunno, I might have had a bit much alcolol this evening to make sense of the message.
Picked up Final Fantasy 4 on the Squeenix sale. The mobile graphics update I can take or leave, it doesn't anger me, but it's meh...but I really appreciate the re-translation. FF4 has always been one of my favorite games, it's nice to see it get a better translation. The original translation wasn't FF7 bad, but it was shaky in parts.
G2A and the like. A few folks here have mentioned using them. Are these things as sketchy as they can seem? Fascinating read.
I clearly need to spend more time at Polygon. That was a really interesting read. The only thing that I don't like is that they immediately assumed that the youtube person sold it. What's to say that the youtube person didn't give the key away (either the second one after redemption or the first if they didn't have time to cover the game but still wanted to request the developer's wishes) and it was that recipient who sold the Gravity Ghost key?
As a note for those who are more interested. The codes are those grey market game sites are almost assuredly stolen. Its seems almost impossible to legitimately buy enough keys via Humble/elsewhere in order to attempt to make enough resale money to be worthwhile. The margin you get for the effort you would have to do in order to do all of that stuff manually, by trading et al is just terrible.
The likely reason that the fraud isn't caught is because people doing credit card fraud have lots of credit cards to fraud with and only do a small amount of fraud on each card. They build a bot to interface with the legitmate storefronts and send the purchase requests through proxies. Then distribute the keys to individual resale storefronts. Then fabricate a handful of "this is how these keys are acquired" lies and you're good to go. Its basically a digital goods version of the old "convert credit card into gift card buy items" scams that go on, but a lot harder to catch because lots of people purchase games online and it would take a miracle to catch someone making only a handful of purchases per year per card unless that person looked at their bill and called their bank.
Basically take a look at this article from polygon. Only one involves that a "legitimate" action which could make someone any money. And the sum total of the money its possible to make is, roughly the total that was made by that one individual. The rest of the actions are basically small time, not nearly enough to come up with the kind of volume for sale you see on retailer sites.
So have we all been committing crimes all this time?
If you've been buying from G2A and Kinguin or other resalers potentially you've been purchasing stolen property. But i have never seen one of those places linked here. The stuff that gets linked here is secondary region distributors. Nuuvem for instance gets keys from developers the same as like Gamersgate or GreenmanGaming. They just only have license to sell in the Brazilian market. IIRC there are a few for the Russian market as well. Off region primary marketers are very different than the key resellers.
Edit: but yea if you've been buying from true second hand sites you should not want steam to look too closely at your library.
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Wow, things get real very quickly in VVVVVV. Such a relaxing game thing to experience after a long day at work and dealing with a screaming baby.
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I really enjoyed reading those Polygon Articles, it's a bit disheartening to see how nasty people can be just to make a little money, but it's also quite eye-opening.
Started Dark Souls up again so that I can finally finish it. Looking at my profile, I've got 57 hours into it, but only 6 achievements. That would be because all of my progress got deleted at some point.
@Descendant X Is the loss of your progress related to the Games for Windows Live removal? If it is, you've still got a few days to convert your old save before it's too late.
Wow, things get real very quickly in VVVVVV. Such a relaxing game thing to experience after a long day at work and dealing with a screaming baby.
That's how I feel about Osmos. Whenever someone describes it as a relaxing game, I know that they didn't play it past the first few levels.
I really enjoy it a lot, I can just tell it will be rage inducing.
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I loved VVVVVV and I'm not a balls hard platform fan in any way. I think it was the way most screens were basically puzzles to figure out, along with the forgiving checkpoint system.
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KoopahTroopahThe koopas, the troopas.Philadelphia, PARegistered Userregular
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Guys... Please do me a big favor, and not buy Evolve.
This. This is ridiculous. It's a $60 game, and the "DLC" they're releasing is just gross. Please be strong willed and go against this greedy market shift of freemium game features in triple A titles. This is something I really, really don't want to see become a bigger trend as the industry continues to grow. So please, just, don't buy it.
Well, I was hoping to be assigned to the weapons systems, but APPARENTLY that job went to someone who prefers hugs instead of large tungsten chunks accelerated to a meaningful fraction of c. *sigh* Don't mind me, I'll just be down here cleaning the airlock... with a flamethrower.
This. This is ridiculous. It's a $60 game, and the "DLC" they're releasing is just gross. Please be strong willed and go against this greedy market shift of freemium game features in triple A titles. This is something I really, really don't want to see become a bigger trend as the industry continues to grow. So please, just, don't buy it.
Buy the pack and save!
I don't mind cosmetic skins too much, but Evolve's model to sell monsters/heroes for ~15 dollars is atrocious and as such they are not getting my money. There was also the app where you could ... buy stuff to speed up 'the grind'? Or something? I was too disgusted to keep reading. Nowadays you're often putting down $60 for the 'privilege' of having access to a DLC store.
I wish the source audio of that wasn't still so scary and upsetting because it is otherwise super funny. Also I wish it was just Scout with his regular model in the bathroom.
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We'll hold you to that.
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We will have bacon fists? That's what you meant, right? Right?
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Now to delve into the DLC that came with it.
I'm also trying to decide if I should play DA2 next, or not.
Well, how else would you be bacon fisted?
Sheesh.
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I figured I should stick to what I know.
I clearly need to spend more time at Polygon. That was a really interesting read. The only thing that I don't like is that they immediately assumed that the youtube person sold it. What's to say that the youtube person didn't give the key away (either the second one after redemption or the first if they didn't have time to cover the game but still wanted to request the developer's wishes) and it was that recipient who sold the Gravity Ghost key?
Apparently we're prematurely celebrating @CorriganX's birthday with Russian fucks or something? I dunno, I might have had a bit much alcolol this evening to make sense of the message.
Thanks @Spoit!
Happy Early Birthday Corrigan!
... and I was doing so well. I'd made it an entire week without a random gifting.
Don't you mean "spoony"?
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Vodka.
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A Russian dictionary.
As a note for those who are more interested. The codes are those grey market game sites are almost assuredly stolen. Its seems almost impossible to legitimately buy enough keys via Humble/elsewhere in order to attempt to make enough resale money to be worthwhile. The margin you get for the effort you would have to do in order to do all of that stuff manually, by trading et al is just terrible.
The likely reason that the fraud isn't caught is because people doing credit card fraud have lots of credit cards to fraud with and only do a small amount of fraud on each card. They build a bot to interface with the legitmate storefronts and send the purchase requests through proxies. Then distribute the keys to individual resale storefronts. Then fabricate a handful of "this is how these keys are acquired" lies and you're good to go. Its basically a digital goods version of the old "convert credit card into gift card buy items" scams that go on, but a lot harder to catch because lots of people purchase games online and it would take a miracle to catch someone making only a handful of purchases per year per card unless that person looked at their bill and called their bank.
Basically take a look at this article from polygon. Only one involves that a "legitimate" action which could make someone any money. And the sum total of the money its possible to make is, roughly the total that was made by that one individual. The rest of the actions are basically small time, not nearly enough to come up with the kind of volume for sale you see on retailer sites.
http://www.polygon.com/features/2014/5/22/5590070/steam-valve-item-trading
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If you've been buying from G2A and Kinguin or other resalers potentially you've been purchasing stolen property. But i have never seen one of those places linked here. The stuff that gets linked here is secondary region distributors. Nuuvem for instance gets keys from developers the same as like Gamersgate or GreenmanGaming. They just only have license to sell in the Brazilian market. IIRC there are a few for the Russian market as well. Off region primary marketers are very different than the key resellers.
Edit: but yea if you've been buying from true second hand sites you should not want steam to look too closely at your library.
2008, 2012, 2014 D&D "Rare With No Sauce" League Fantasy Football Champion!
Thanks for the great reads.
Have you seen him? Now you have
WORD--I can't even begin to tell you how much fun I had with last year's Steam Battle, and this one has already set my imagination on fire.
Gaben bless you, Tiny Tim . . . er, @akajaybay ! You're doing the Lord's Overlord's work creating so much fun for all of us.
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@Descendant X Is the loss of your progress related to the Games for Windows Live removal? If it is, you've still got a few days to convert your old save before it's too late.
That's how I feel about Osmos. Whenever someone describes it as a relaxing game, I know that they didn't play it past the first few levels.
And that is why I now no longer have anyone on my friends list on steam. I have too many games already.
Good point.
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Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
Missing out on all the fun.
I will be watching this Steam Battle with great interest anyway.
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I really enjoy it a lot, I can just tell it will be rage inducing.
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This. This is ridiculous. It's a $60 game, and the "DLC" they're releasing is just gross. Please be strong willed and go against this greedy market shift of freemium game features in triple A titles. This is something I really, really don't want to see become a bigger trend as the industry continues to grow. So please, just, don't buy it.
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I don't mind cosmetic skins too much, but Evolve's model to sell monsters/heroes for ~15 dollars is atrocious and as such they are not getting my money. There was also the app where you could ... buy stuff to speed up 'the grind'? Or something? I was too disgusted to keep reading. Nowadays you're often putting down $60 for the 'privilege' of having access to a DLC store.
Valve, hurry up with L4D3!
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