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USA Presidential Election 2016: Galoot Debate

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Do we know who's moderating the next one? The great moderation worked heavily in Clinton's favour.

    Martha Raddatz and Anderson Cooper.

    Keep in mind that Lester is a registered Republican too.

    Cooper might just destroy Trump.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    One of them, preferably Anderson, should open with a difficult question to Hillary immediately. One of the main talking points against her. That way she can dunk it and Trump loses the unfair mods argument immediately.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    #trumpwon is trending on twitter

    the trolls are overcompensating

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    #trumpwon is trending on twitter

    the trolls are overcompensating

    Well, confidently bombarding everyone with obvious lies is sort of the Trump campaign's favorite play.

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    Erin The RedErin The Red The Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMA Baton Rouge, LARegistered User regular
    the hoo, boy! that was a lot of stuff! or whatever she said was good

    because she had already done some variation on that a couple times in response to his rambling but this time she nailed it and the audience laughed and I was like "dear lord thank you for not making Hillary come out of this looking like the stiff nerd to trump's charismatic bully"

    does anyone have a clip of this by any chance

    googling "hoo boy hillary clinton" is mostly pulling up stuff like

    "Hoo boy Hillary sure is a (string of horrible slurs)"

    See if you can find a video where trump talks about his temperament. Her response was like right after that.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Rudy Giuliani says he wouldn't debate again, if he were Trump because of moderator bias.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-should-skip-next-debate

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.

    Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.

    I guess we've all grown up a bit.

    Wang.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    #trumpwon is trending on twitter

    the trolls are overcompensating

    Primetime in Moscow

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    #trumpwon is trending on twitter

    the trolls are overcompensating

    God, I hope that isn't the one thing undecided voters hear about the debate.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rudy Giuliani says he wouldn't debate again, if he were Trump because of moderator bias.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-should-skip-next-debate

    Facts with their Hillary bias.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    the hoo, boy! that was a lot of stuff! or whatever she said was good

    because she had already done some variation on that a couple times in response to his rambling but this time she nailed it and the audience laughed and I was like "dear lord thank you for not making Hillary come out of this looking like the stiff nerd to trump's charismatic bully"

    does anyone have a clip of this by any chance

    googling "hoo boy hillary clinton" is mostly pulling up stuff like

    "Hoo boy Hillary sure is a (string of horrible slurs)"
    Barcardi wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4U3n3cvNY

    the way she just turns him into a joke here is so great

    Thanks!

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm not sure Trump can maintain his composure through an entire debate. His whole thing is his "passion" and the fact he "tells it like it is" and I think that works so hard against him in a debate format.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    oh yeah, the "woo! ok" and the "well that sure was, a lot of things, that were just... said" (paraphrasing) bit were two different occasions

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rudy Giuliani says he wouldn't debate again, if he were Trump because of moderator bias.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-should-skip-next-debate

    now Trump can look mature and presidential simply by showing up!

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rudy Giuliani says he wouldn't debate again, if he were Trump because of moderator bias.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-should-skip-next-debate

    Appropriately for Trump's campaign, "bias" in this case means "lack of positive bias" as opposed to actual negative bias. His whole platform is basically predicated on the "persecution of the majority" complex.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Setting people get angry about fact checking is surreal

    But I guess maybe that seems more normal when your candidate and facts are diametrically opposed

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    Erin The RedErin The Red The Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMA Baton Rouge, LARegistered User regular
    I imagine a moderator-less debate would just become a knife fight about six minutes in, yeah?

    Also I had considered it before, but now I really wanna donate some dollars to Hillary's campaign next paycheck.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    it didn't sound like he was sniffing so much as sharply inhaling every two seconds because he kept running out of air

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    His breathing is weird in public because he's used to a much higher brimstone content in the air race breathes.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2016

    Barcardi wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4U3n3cvNY

    the way she just turns him into a joke here is so great

    jesus this is the first time I've seen them speak together

    how

    how could anyone watch that and think trump could lead a cub scout troop across a road much less than an entire country

    my stars

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Barcardi wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4U3n3cvNY

    the way she just turns him into a joke here is so great

    jesus this is the first time I've seen them speak together

    how

    how could anyone watch that and think trump could lead a cub scout troop across a road much less than an entire country

    my stars

    There is a large part of the country that is tired of the "polished politician" myself included.

    But not so tired of it I would consider voting for Trump.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Can you imagine what a Trump State of the Union would sound like?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I noticed that instead of calling him Trump or "my opponent" she just kept calling him Donald. And it worked! His whole name recognition is from Trump, so somehow constantly calling him Donald seem to both ignore and acknowledge him.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Barcardi wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4U3n3cvNY

    the way she just turns him into a joke here is so great

    jesus this is the first time I've seen them speak together

    how

    how could anyone watch that and think trump could lead a cub scout troop across a road much less than an entire country

    my stars

    There is a large part of the country that is tired of the "polished politician" myself included.

    But not so tired of it I would consider voting for Trump.

    Yeah, I'm also tired of polished doctors. I want my doctor to go in there and really wing it, try somethin out and see how it works.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    I noticed that instead of calling him Trump or "my opponent" she just kept calling him Donald. And it worked! His whole name recognition is from Trump, so somehow constantly calling him Donald seem to both ignore and acknowledge him.

    I thought his usage of "Secretary Clinton" was sort of interesting.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Can you imagine what a Trump State of the Union would sound like?

    I can. Believe me.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I noticed that instead of calling him Trump or "my opponent" she just kept calling him Donald. And it worked! His whole name recognition is from Trump, so somehow constantly calling him Donald seem to both ignore and acknowledge him.

    i mentioned this yesterday and someone pointed out that he also had agreed to refer to her as Secretary Clinton, so it was the exact opposite of the power dynamic that he would have wanted to roll with. I hadn't even thought about that aspect at the time.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I noticed that instead of calling him Trump or "my opponent" she just kept calling him Donald. And it worked! His whole name recognition is from Trump, so somehow constantly calling him Donald seem to both ignore and acknowledge him.

    I thought his usage of "Secretary Clinton" was sort of interesting.

    You know, in retrospect I'm sure he meant it to be insulting, but considering that it was a fucking Presidential debate all it did was make her sound more qualified.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    WordLustWordLust Fort Wayne, INRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Can you imagine what a Trump State of the Union would sound like?

    Just wait until you hear his concession speech! Ooooh it's gonna be great!

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    WordLust wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Can you imagine what a Trump State of the Union would sound like?

    Just wait until you hear his concession speech! Ooooh it's gonna be great!

    "It's going to be the great- - the greatest concession of all time. People are going to be - people are saying that it'll be just the best concession. Hillary won't even know what hit her when I give my concession. Trust me, it's going to be amazing." Note to self: have someone look up what the word 'concession' means.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I am like 99% certain that if Trump loses, there won't be a concession speech.

    He completely snubbed Lester Holt last night. That's what happens when he loses.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    There's no way trump ever gives a concession speech

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    I noticed that instead of calling him Trump or "my opponent" she just kept calling him Donald. And it worked! His whole name recognition is from Trump, so somehow constantly calling him Donald seem to both ignore and acknowledge him.

    it too reminds people that he's just a private citizen, has not held an office, and that he's not a person she holds as a peer--there's no professional courtesy of mr. so-and-so

    kinda funny how she's using his first name here to make him seem smaller, less monolithic, yet uses her own first name in campaign materials to do the same thing to herself willingly

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »

    "Thank you, Palmer Luckey" is the complete sentence there.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    JoeUser wrote: »

    Hey, anything that gets his echo chamber to make him repeat last night's performance.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    also a lot of that hashtag trend is people commenting on how ridiculous it is

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    Essentially they were mod endorsed, Maxim level soft porn threads. They were pretty horrible and I'm glad we got rid of them. Unbelievably, that was actually a politically difficult thing to do.

    Looking at political threads from 8 years ago, the difference in gendered language was pretty surprising.

    I guess we've all grown up a bit.

    Wang.

    Ten years ago the forum probably would've voted Trump.

    I went back to see how terrible I was once and it was pretty bad. I don't recommend it.

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