I see. And that applies all the way down to office level government employees? Does it ever get enforced? Seems like it would probably be violated on a daily basis during election season unless it was strictly emphasized.
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
The difference between civ 5 and civ 2 is minute compared to the difference between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. Sure, now there's city states and some civ bonuses, but you still have diplomacy, resources, technology, wonders, advisers, win conditions, etc etc etc. Warcraft 3 was closer to a MOBA than an RTS tbh. You might have a point if each iteration of the game didn't basically "reset" all the extra stuff and sell DLC and expansions to add them back in I guess, but from where I'm standing my Civ 5 tactics are nearly identical to my Civ 1 and 2 tactics, aside from broken denouncing bullshit in Civ5.
Also the video based advisers were the best fyi hth
War3 was a completely different thing.
And Blizzard stated that.
Starcraft was the War2 next iteration. War3 is where MOBAs derive from because of the hero system. Its not that it was closer to MOBAs it is their direct ancestor.
The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
I'm not trying to bash Hillary here or whatever, but Obama and her have taken an incredibly draconian attitude toward any leaks of US data
I don't think she'd CIA blackbag him to gitmo, but I think she'd use every diplomatic measure she had to find a way to get him here
I'm also not trying to defend Assange, for sure, I'm just pointing out that it's rational for him to be opposed to Hillary even if he is using everything he claims to stand for as toilet paper
well, what american laws has assange broken?
there are probably very limited american laws a foreign national on foreign soil can break
Handling classified material without proper authorization. Aiding and abetting. Probably could be put in for obstruction of justice if he refuses to give up sources.
I really think that is about it.
I doubt he has any legal obligation to protect american classified information
aiding and abetting does have extranational reach though so maybe they have something there to build a case on?
He isn't authorized to see it so they can hit him. But I doubt you could build an extradition case on it. Really aiding and abetting would be the basis for it and then when in the US they might be able to hit with an obstruction charge if he doesn't plea or cooperate.
I see. And that applies all the way down to office level government employees? Does it ever get enforced? Seems like it would probably be violated on a daily basis during election season unless it was strictly emphasized.
It is pretty strictly emphasized in DC. Lots of emails. An all hands meeting in August for the government employees. And us contractors are told not to discuss it with the govies during office hours.
I'm at the point where if I hear coworkers supporting trump I am going to document the time and place and people present and report them for hatch act violations. Once you start saying "I'm voting for X" in an open office that is a violation and they can sit their happy asses at home for the 30 day mandatory suspension without pay. I'm fucking sick of this shit.
I'm not allowed to express my feelings and feel bullied by this shit so fuck em
I'm unfamiliar with that rule, what's the Hatch Act?
Government employees in their official capacity aka while working cannot state a preference during an election for a specific candidate or party.
So like... if Ludious posts from work he shouldn't be stating a preference? Oh snap. He's gonna have to be vague about Trump all during the day.
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ChelleYeahMrs. LudiousLiving it up in Cinderella's CastleRegistered Userregular
I'm at the point where if I hear coworkers supporting trump I am going to document the time and place and people present and report them for hatch act violations. Once you start saying "I'm voting for X" in an open office that is a violation and they can sit their happy asses at home for the 30 day mandatory suspension without pay. I'm fucking sick of this shit.
I'm not allowed to express my feelings and feel bullied by this shit so fuck em
@ludious i was talking to the person who sits behind me and i brought it up, so it wasnt like that - this time.
I see. And that applies all the way down to office level government employees? Does it ever get enforced? Seems like it would probably be violated on a daily basis during election season unless it was strictly emphasized.
I mean that's why there's a literal law around it.
From my brief exposure to such things, it was a real thing
The difference between civ 5 and civ 2 is minute compared to the difference between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. Sure, now there's city states and some civ bonuses, but you still have diplomacy, resources, technology, wonders, advisers, win conditions, etc etc etc. Warcraft 3 was closer to a MOBA than an RTS tbh. You might have a point if each iteration of the game didn't basically "reset" all the extra stuff and sell DLC and expansions to add them back in I guess, but from where I'm standing my Civ 5 tactics are nearly identical to my Civ 1 and 2 tactics, aside from broken denouncing bullshit in Civ5.
Also the video based advisers were the best fyi hth
War3 was a completely different thing.
And Blizzard stated that.
Starcraft was the War2 next iteration. War3 is where MOBAs derive from because of the hero system. Its not that it was closer to MOBAs it is their direct ancestor.
The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
Yeah like, actually healing with those healers.. how the fuck do people manage that shit
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I though Assange was in hiding due to the whole being a rapist thing
Yeah. He claims that they're trumped up charges and if he gets extradited to Sweden they'll extradite him to the US where, I don't know, he'll be black bagged to a dark site and then tortured and executed. It's total bullshit if you look at the facts, but he wants to be able to play the victim.
Oh yeah
I mean I know why he says he's in hiding
I just don't care why he says he's in hiding because no, Julian, that's not why you're in hiding.
The difference between civ 5 and civ 2 is minute compared to the difference between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. Sure, now there's city states and some civ bonuses, but you still have diplomacy, resources, technology, wonders, advisers, win conditions, etc etc etc. Warcraft 3 was closer to a MOBA than an RTS tbh. You might have a point if each iteration of the game didn't basically "reset" all the extra stuff and sell DLC and expansions to add them back in I guess, but from where I'm standing my Civ 5 tactics are nearly identical to my Civ 1 and 2 tactics, aside from broken denouncing bullshit in Civ5.
Also the video based advisers were the best fyi hth
War3 was a completely different thing.
And Blizzard stated that.
Starcraft was the War2 next iteration. War3 is where MOBAs derive from because of the hero system. Its not that it was closer to MOBAs it is their direct ancestor.
The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
I loved Dawn of War 1 so much, and was so so bad at DoW2
The difference between civ 5 and civ 2 is minute compared to the difference between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. Sure, now there's city states and some civ bonuses, but you still have diplomacy, resources, technology, wonders, advisers, win conditions, etc etc etc. Warcraft 3 was closer to a MOBA than an RTS tbh. You might have a point if each iteration of the game didn't basically "reset" all the extra stuff and sell DLC and expansions to add them back in I guess, but from where I'm standing my Civ 5 tactics are nearly identical to my Civ 1 and 2 tactics, aside from broken denouncing bullshit in Civ5.
Also the video based advisers were the best fyi hth
War3 was a completely different thing.
And Blizzard stated that.
Starcraft was the War2 next iteration. War3 is where MOBAs derive from because of the hero system. Its not that it was closer to MOBAs it is their direct ancestor.
The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
I loved Dawn of War 1 so much, and was so so bad at DoW2
Yeah, I didn't hate DoW2. The story mode was excellent.
But I really really didn't care for the fact that they went to the Company of Heroes cover and small squad system.
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Driving out to see bae on Friday. Her place is just shy of 2 hours from Cinci.
Just volunteered for an issue at work that requires driving to within 30 minutes of her place, on Friday, meaning that I'll be paid mileage and get to her spot ~2 hours earlier than I would and be smanging* on the clock
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*@Organichu I blame you for this word having taken up residence in my lexicon.
Haha that looks exactly like one of Roxie's siblings
She had her first set of shots this morning and I brought her in with the rest of her litter because the mother's owner got a discount for bringing them all in at once
On a related note: five kittens in an 8x10 examination room is certainly a thing
I see. And that applies all the way down to office level government employees? Does it ever get enforced? Seems like it would probably be violated on a daily basis during election season unless it was strictly emphasized.
I mean that's why there's a literal law around it.
From my brief exposure to such things, it was a real thing
There are laws and then there are laws, y'know? I have not worked in a government environment, but the situation Ludious describes doesn't sound like something that would be uncommon.
I'm not trying to bash Hillary here or whatever, but Obama and her have taken an incredibly draconian attitude toward any leaks of US data
I don't think she'd CIA blackbag him to gitmo, but I think she'd use every diplomatic measure she had to find a way to get him here
I'm also not trying to defend Assange, for sure, I'm just pointing out that it's rational for him to be opposed to Hillary even if he is using everything he claims to stand for as toilet paper
well, what american laws has assange broken?
there are probably very limited american laws a foreign national on foreign soil can break
Handling classified material without proper authorization. Aiding and abetting. Probably could be put in for obstruction of justice if he refuses to give up sources.
I really think that is about it.
I doubt he has any legal obligation to protect american classified information
aiding and abetting does have extranational reach though so maybe they have something there to build a case on?
He isn't authorized to see it so they can hit him. But I doubt you could build an extradition case on it. Really aiding and abetting would be the basis for it and then when in the US they might be able to hit with an obstruction charge if he doesn't plea or cooperate.
Of course you couldn't build an extradition case on it, because it isn't a crime for anyone else but the US, if it indeed is a crime. I'm not so certain.
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
Why can't I get just one screw
Why can't I get just one screw
Believe me I know what to do
But something won't let me make love to you :whistle:
The difference between civ 5 and civ 2 is minute compared to the difference between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. Sure, now there's city states and some civ bonuses, but you still have diplomacy, resources, technology, wonders, advisers, win conditions, etc etc etc. Warcraft 3 was closer to a MOBA than an RTS tbh. You might have a point if each iteration of the game didn't basically "reset" all the extra stuff and sell DLC and expansions to add them back in I guess, but from where I'm standing my Civ 5 tactics are nearly identical to my Civ 1 and 2 tactics, aside from broken denouncing bullshit in Civ5.
Also the video based advisers were the best fyi hth
War3 was a completely different thing.
And Blizzard stated that.
Starcraft was the War2 next iteration. War3 is where MOBAs derive from because of the hero system. Its not that it was closer to MOBAs it is their direct ancestor.
The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
Maybe you should micro instead of being such a noob
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After I really got into watching pro eSports as a thing. I gave watching some SC2 streams a shot. Holy shit, I have no idea how someone could watch that for an extended period of time. They flip around CONSTANTLY. The only time you'd see a single area on the map for more than a few seconds was when they had the one big fight that decided the whole match.
Yup.
I watched a lot of SCII tourney streams, which were enjoyable as they had good camerawork. But if you watched people like iNcontrol back in the day, or wintergaming these days, the actual 'stream quality' experience is very low.
They never stay on a screen for more than a few seconds, most play on lowest graphics settings to keep framerate absolutely maxed, and macro has apparently become slightly more king than it was previously. Back in the WoL days I pointed out the in SCII thread that there is a big issue if your game involves troop type advantages but 90% of players cannot realistically take advantage of this because of the way targetting works. This has basically born fruit, and now coalesced into scout the enemy's build order and produce only the counter-strat for win/lose; no more hedging bets with well micro'd mixed armies.
Ireland has the fucking worst infrastructure outside of Dublin
Honestly Cork is close enough that I should conceivably be able to go down for a night for pints but its awful roads/incredibly expensive rail makes it an eight hour round journey if you don't drive
It's honestly easier and cheaper to get to London from where I am now
I think Ireland's fallen into the Star Network trap of Infrastructure, where it's all about reaching the Capital from wherever you are.
Example, if you are determined to get a train from Sligo to Galway (both in the West), you have to get a train into Dublin (on the east coast) first.
Norn Iron also suffers from this. Our rail network is barren and Belfast centric, and it even has its own phrase, "West of the Bann", to describe generally inferior infrastructure once you go past the River Bann and Lough Neagh.
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
lud are you sure that simply expressing "I am voting for x" is political activity
what I got from the OSC (and goddamn but it is hard to find the actual goddamn law)
May express opinions about candidates and issues. If the expression is political activity, however – i.e., activity directed at the success or failure of a political party, candidate for partisan political office, or partisan political group – then the expression is not permitted while the employee is on duty, in any federal room or building, while wearing a uniform or official insignia, or using any federally owned or leased vehicle.
I'm not trying to bash Hillary here or whatever, but Obama and her have taken an incredibly draconian attitude toward any leaks of US data
I don't think she'd CIA blackbag him to gitmo, but I think she'd use every diplomatic measure she had to find a way to get him here
I'm also not trying to defend Assange, for sure, I'm just pointing out that it's rational for him to be opposed to Hillary even if he is using everything he claims to stand for as toilet paper
well, what american laws has assange broken?
there are probably very limited american laws a foreign national on foreign soil can break
Handling classified material without proper authorization. Aiding and abetting. Probably could be put in for obstruction of justice if he refuses to give up sources.
I really think that is about it.
I doubt he has any legal obligation to protect american classified information
aiding and abetting does have extranational reach though so maybe they have something there to build a case on?
He isn't authorized to see it so they can hit him. But I doubt you could build an extradition case on it. Really aiding and abetting would be the basis for it and then when in the US they might be able to hit with an obstruction charge if he doesn't plea or cooperate.
Of course you couldn't build an extradition case on it, because it isn't a crime for anyone else but the US, if it indeed is a crime. I'm not so certain.
Ireland has the fucking worst infrastructure outside of Dublin
Honestly Cork is close enough that I should conceivably be able to go down for a night for pints but its awful roads/incredibly expensive rail makes it an eight hour round journey if you don't drive
It's honestly easier and cheaper to get to London from where I am now
I think Ireland's fallen into the Star Network trap of Infrastructure, where it's all about reaching the Capital from wherever you are.
Example, if you are determined to get a train from Sligo to Galway (both in the West), you have to get a train into Dublin (on the east coast) first.
Norn Iron also suffers from this. Our rail network is barren and Belfast centric, and it even has its own phrase, "West of the Bann", to describe generally inferior infrastructure once you go past the River Bann and Lough Neagh.
Having been in Dundalk, Drogheda, Sligo, Cork and Galway in the last six weeks, I can agree with this p hard
I'm not trying to bash Hillary here or whatever, but Obama and her have taken an incredibly draconian attitude toward any leaks of US data
I don't think she'd CIA blackbag him to gitmo, but I think she'd use every diplomatic measure she had to find a way to get him here
I'm also not trying to defend Assange, for sure, I'm just pointing out that it's rational for him to be opposed to Hillary even if he is using everything he claims to stand for as toilet paper
well, what american laws has assange broken?
there are probably very limited american laws a foreign national on foreign soil can break
Handling classified material without proper authorization. Aiding and abetting. Probably could be put in for obstruction of justice if he refuses to give up sources.
I really think that is about it.
I doubt he has any legal obligation to protect american classified information
aiding and abetting does have extranational reach though so maybe they have something there to build a case on?
He isn't authorized to see it so they can hit him. But I doubt you could build an extradition case on it. Really aiding and abetting would be the basis for it and then when in the US they might be able to hit with an obstruction charge if he doesn't plea or cooperate.
Of course you couldn't build an extradition case on it, because it isn't a crime for anyone else but the US, if it indeed is a crime. I'm not so certain.
Why can't I get just one screw
Why can't I get just one screw
Believe me I know what to do
But something won't let me make love to you :whistle:
TODAAAAAAAAAAaaaaAAAYYY
I like too many Richard Cheese variants of songs. Is lounge singer still a job one can get because that seems pretty sweet.
It seems like something old singers of low end fame would fall into and push any "new talent" out.
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ChelleYeahMrs. LudiousLiving it up in Cinderella's CastleRegistered Userregular
ok the info i got about the hatch act says you cant:
-solicit accept or receive political contributions
-wear partisan political clothing or buttons in the office
- use government equipment for political activity
and you CAN:
- make financial contributions to a partisan political party/canidate
- assist in voter registration drives w/ orginizations that are non-partisian
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The modern Blizzard RTS is way to heavy on unit abilities for me.
It's like every goddamn unit has 5 abilities it can use. Back in older iterations it was only the caster units that would be that complicated. And of course hero units this goes doubly for. I think this is why I really loved Dawn of War 1 so much. I didn't get that feeling at all with most of their units.
He isn't authorized to see it so they can hit him. But I doubt you could build an extradition case on it. Really aiding and abetting would be the basis for it and then when in the US they might be able to hit with an obstruction charge if he doesn't plea or cooperate.
It is pretty strictly emphasized in DC. Lots of emails. An all hands meeting in August for the government employees. And us contractors are told not to discuss it with the govies during office hours.
So like... if Ludious posts from work he shouldn't be stating a preference? Oh snap. He's gonna have to be vague about Trump all during the day.
@ludious i was talking to the person who sits behind me and i brought it up, so it wasnt like that - this time.
I mean that's why there's a literal law around it.
From my brief exposure to such things, it was a real thing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Yeah like, actually healing with those healers.. how the fuck do people manage that shit
Oh yeah
I mean I know why he says he's in hiding
I just don't care why he says he's in hiding because no, Julian, that's not why you're in hiding.
I loved Dawn of War 1 so much, and was so so bad at DoW2
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Yeah, I didn't hate DoW2. The story mode was excellent.
But I really really didn't care for the fact that they went to the Company of Heroes cover and small squad system.
you can't stop the inexorable march of progress
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why'd i have to wake up?
"when bae show up to the skatepark wit someone else"
(I'm curious as to how it defines "political activity" which is what is prohibited while working for all classes of government employees)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Just volunteered for an issue at work that requires driving to within 30 minutes of her place, on Friday, meaning that I'll be paid mileage and get to her spot ~2 hours earlier than I would and be smanging* on the clock
HUSTLIN
HUSTLIN
HUSTLIN
Haha that looks exactly like one of Roxie's siblings
She had her first set of shots this morning and I brought her in with the rest of her litter because the mother's owner got a discount for bringing them all in at once
On a related note: five kittens in an 8x10 examination room is certainly a thing
There are laws and then there are laws, y'know? I have not worked in a government environment, but the situation Ludious describes doesn't sound like something that would be uncommon.
Of course you couldn't build an extradition case on it, because it isn't a crime for anyone else but the US, if it indeed is a crime. I'm not so certain.
Why can't I get just one screw
Believe me I know what to do
But something won't let me make love to you :whistle:
I watched a lot of SCII tourney streams, which were enjoyable as they had good camerawork. But if you watched people like iNcontrol back in the day, or wintergaming these days, the actual 'stream quality' experience is very low.
They never stay on a screen for more than a few seconds, most play on lowest graphics settings to keep framerate absolutely maxed, and macro has apparently become slightly more king than it was previously. Back in the WoL days I pointed out the in SCII thread that there is a big issue if your game involves troop type advantages but 90% of players cannot realistically take advantage of this because of the way targetting works. This has basically born fruit, and now coalesced into scout the enemy's build order and produce only the counter-strat for win/lose; no more hedging bets with well micro'd mixed armies.
I think Ireland's fallen into the Star Network trap of Infrastructure, where it's all about reaching the Capital from wherever you are.
Example, if you are determined to get a train from Sligo to Galway (both in the West), you have to get a train into Dublin (on the east coast) first.
Norn Iron also suffers from this. Our rail network is barren and Belfast centric, and it even has its own phrase, "West of the Bann", to describe generally inferior infrastructure once you go past the River Bann and Lough Neagh.
i dont even know what do say to you anymore
so i will let this gif do the talking
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what I got from the OSC (and goddamn but it is hard to find the actual goddamn law)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
Yeah you could probably go with publishing of classified material in a manner where foreign governments can see it under this article.
Having been in Dundalk, Drogheda, Sligo, Cork and Galway in the last six weeks, I can agree with this p hard
TODAAAAAAAAAAaaaaAAAYYY
I like too many Richard Cheese variants of songs. Is lounge singer still a job one can get because that seems pretty sweet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Jurisdiction isn't defined in that one and that's the thing that matters
It seems like something old singers of low end fame would fall into and push any "new talent" out.
-solicit accept or receive political contributions
-wear partisan political clothing or buttons in the office
- use government equipment for political activity
and you CAN:
- make financial contributions to a partisan political party/canidate
- assist in voter registration drives w/ orginizations that are non-partisian
Office of the Inspector General for one of the big groups has a really comprehensive list. I think its DoJ? I was just looking it up.
this was pretty comprehensive about the hatch act
they're the ones enforcing it