SmasherStarting to get dizzyRegistered Userregular
edited November 2007
Well, last night was certainly enlightening. On the bright side we only have to kill one person to stop the revenant numbers from growing. On the other hand it seems the cultists can't kill him, so either the village or one of our specials will have to do it, or we have to hope a revanent gets him. With all these factions and limited crossfire between them, things could be getting hairy fast.
Cultists: 0 to 5 remaining (if cultists can become revenants; otherwise there's at least one)
Revenants: at least 1, probably 2 max (assuming each revenant gets a kill, which seems to be implied by the no contact thing; if that's not the case there could be up to three).
Herbert Wests: 1
Clarification: What is the village's win condition?
Clarification: Is exhuming a revenant sufficient to kill it, or do we also have to target it with the vote or a special kill the next day?
!exhume LaOs - I'm betting LaOs is a villager. Back when I played a few games, the baddies always went for the people who were posting useful information first. It'd be good to find out.
Reserving my kill vote for later. I'm caught up on the thread, but I will be doing some filtering to try and find a likely target.
Hmm, I kinda have the idea Saburbia is the doctor, the way he reacted to my post made me look through what he has done in this game. The most important thing: He's still alive. Why would the bad guys take out so many veterans but leave him alive? Maybe they tried killing him, but it failed?
Look at Night 4 results:
Qorzm - Slain, partly chewed - Villager - Watcher
Lady Eri
Last Son
DevoutlyApathetic - Torched - Villager
Richy - Shot - Revenant
to interpret these: Richy chewed Qorzm, Qorzm killed Richy
Vote took out Eri
DA was killed by the arsonist
Which would mean the bad guys only got 1 kill in.
I'm not sure, but it could mean Saburbia's the guy who never washes his hands, but it wouldn't explain why he's been trying to lay low. He has posted a lot, but most posts are either jokes or following established bandwagons.
So: If my assumption that Saburbia was attacked by the bad guys is right, that means he is either the guy that never washes his hands OR the doctor.
IF he is that special he is useless to the village now, because his friend is dead.
IF he is the doctor, he should be voted out right now to prevent further damage.
I'm off to bed, so I won't be around to defend my statement or to show examples of Sab following bandwagons and not adding much himself (note how I said "much" and not "not at all").
Good night y'all, hopefully something comes from this.
Hmm, I kinda have the idea Saburbia is the doctor, the way he reacted to my post made me look through what he has done in this game. The most important thing: He's still alive. Why would the bad guys take out so many veterans but leave him alive? Maybe they tried killing him, but it failed?
Look at Night 4 results:
Qorzm - Slain, partly chewed - Villager - Watcher
Lady Eri
Last Son
DevoutlyApathetic - Torched - Villager
Richy - Shot - Revenant
to interpret these: Richy chewed Qorzm, Qorzm killed Richy
Vote took out Eri
DA was killed by the arsonist
Which would mean the bad guys only got 1 kill in.
I'm not sure, but it could mean Saburbia's the guy who never washes his hands, but it wouldn't explain why he's been trying to lay low. He has posted a lot, but most posts are either jokes or following established bandwagons.
So: If my assumption that Saburbia was attacked by the bad guys is right, that means he is either the guy that never washes his hands OR the doctor.
IF he is that special he is useless to the village now, because his friend is dead.
IF he is the doctor, he should be voted out right now to prevent further damage.
!kill Saburbia
I see anything here that implicates Saburbia. Unfortunately, Aldo has said hes logged off, so he isn't available to clarify. Its just not falling in to place for me.
There have been a grand total of 5 red votes so far today, and at least 4 of them (Durax, Satan Himself and Fluffly) seem like joke votes.
This makes it quite tempting to attempt to bandwagon the one person who is attempting to use logic (Aldo). On the other hand, with the thread as dead as it is today, why would a baddie post at all....
Aldo's logic is kinda weird, he says he thinks a cultist kill was blocked last night, and since I am a old school player and still alive he thinks I was targetted which means I am either a guardian or the doctor.
Howeve I am pretty sure there are plently of old time players still alive and it doesn't seem like they are the ones being targetted only.
Aldo's logic is kinda weird, he says he thinks a cultist kill was blocked last night, and since I am a old school player and still alive he thinks I was targetted which means I am either a guardian or the doctor.
Howeve I am pretty sure there are plently of old time players still alive and it doesn't seem like they are the ones being targetted only.
Yeah, I don't follow his reasoning either. If you can be accused of "following bandwagons" and "not contributing" his posts follow the same pattern. I'm tempted to throw a vote his way, just for the sake of following his logic to a different conclusion.
Remember guys, Dr. Reanimator can "convert" a living player into a revenant as well, just in case we find two full graves.
!Vote Saburbia
!Vote Laos
Clarification: Does the "revenated" living player need to be exhumed to be killed like other revenants? Or does the "revenation" count as a kill on that person, with their name showing in the narration?
Well, there's a problem with Aldo's logic in that Saburbia is not the only old school or vocal player still in the game, so why target Saburbia specifically?
Also, village, remember that if you bandwagon someone too hard, you make it easy for the bad guys to hide inside the bandwagon. I don't have a problem with us killing off Sab, but I want to see who our other suspects are.
I'll vote to exhume La0s for now, red vote to follow.
Is it customary for bad guys to start bandwagons though? It's awfully risky. Then again I suppose it's possible that the bad guys nominate one of their number to be the vocal opinion leader to keep people away from voting them.
Well, last night was certainly enlightening. On the bright side we only have to kill one person to stop the revenant numbers from growing. On the other hand it seems the cultists can't kill him, so either the village or one of our specials will have to do it, or we have to hope a revanent gets him. With all these factions and limited crossfire between them, things could be getting hairy fast.
Cultists: 0 to 5 remaining (if cultists can become revenants; otherwise there's at least one)
Revenants: at least 1, probably 2 max (assuming each revenant gets a kill, which seems to be implied by the no contact thing; if that's not the case there could be up to three).
Herbert Wests: 1
Clarification: What is the village's win condition?
Clarification: Is exhuming a revenant sufficient to kill it, or do we also have to target it with the vote or a special kill the next day?
1. Pretty much if West, the Cultists, and the revenants (their West is dead condition) fail, the village wins. The village could win with the revenants if the latter manage to off West, though. Other win conditions overlap, too, so this could theoretically end with two winning factions.
2. The latter. There's a reason I gave the village a fuckton of killing power. :P (Yes, the Searcher may target Revenants.)
Clarification: Does the "revenated" living player need to be exhumed to be killed like other revenants? Or does the "revenation" count as a kill on that person, with their name showing in the narration?
I agree. I really can't see why he was targetting Saburbia specifically over others.
!vote Aldo
But I think we should look closely at who hops on the bandwagon for Saburbia. Aldo did make it pretty easy for baddies to glom on without much suspicion.
I think there are a few groups that we should look at. The people who are hopping on saburbia's bandwagon and the people who hopped on the lady eri bandwagon after i presented some less-than-stellar logic a few days ago.
In both cases, the reasons presented against both players weren't very convincing yet there were a lot of votes quickly tossed in their direction.
!vote aldo because I think we should turn the saburbia train around and !vote to exhume La0s although I'm pretty certain La0s was a plain old vanillager.
Yeah.
The only reason that I can think to vote for him is that he's been to innocent, or something.
Aldo doesn't seem like a good target, he's just got faulty logic. !Vote B:L, as he seems much more suspicious to me. He hasn't been as proactive as he usually is either. His only initiative targeted two innocents as well (Qorzm, CJ), one of whom ended up being a watcher.
Posts
I think not.
Touche.
I don't think we should continue this any further.
I thought not.
That doctor sounds creepy, if the arsonist targets him we'll loose our vig. :? Better watch out.
I almost forgot you were playing in this game. :P
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Yeah, that happens when you spend all your time underground poisoning rats.
Also you might have to make a new vote since I am not sure if votes that are edited in this one count.
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!exhume Zanmatto
He's got to be undead, I think.
Cultists: 0 to 5 remaining (if cultists can become revenants; otherwise there's at least one)
Revenants: at least 1, probably 2 max (assuming each revenant gets a kill, which seems to be implied by the no contact thing; if that's not the case there could be up to three).
Herbert Wests: 1
Clarification: What is the village's win condition?
Clarification: Is exhuming a revenant sufficient to kill it, or do we also have to target it with the vote or a special kill the next day?
!exhume LaOs - I'm betting LaOs is a villager. Back when I played a few games, the baddies always went for the people who were posting useful information first. It'd be good to find out.
Reserving my kill vote for later. I'm caught up on the thread, but I will be doing some filtering to try and find a likely target.
Look at Night 4 results:
Qorzm - Slain, partly chewed - Villager - Watcher
Lady Eri
Last Son
DevoutlyApathetic - Torched - Villager
Richy - Shot - Revenant
to interpret these: Richy chewed Qorzm, Qorzm killed Richy
Vote took out Eri
DA was killed by the arsonist
Which would mean the bad guys only got 1 kill in.
I'm not sure, but it could mean Saburbia's the guy who never washes his hands, but it wouldn't explain why he's been trying to lay low. He has posted a lot, but most posts are either jokes or following established bandwagons.
So: If my assumption that Saburbia was attacked by the bad guys is right, that means he is either the guy that never washes his hands OR the doctor.
IF he is that special he is useless to the village now, because his friend is dead.
IF he is the doctor, he should be voted out right now to prevent further damage.
!kill Saburbia
I'm off to bed, so I won't be around to defend my statement or to show examples of Sab following bandwagons and not adding much himself (note how I said "much" and not "not at all").
Good night y'all, hopefully something comes from this.
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I see anything here that implicates Saburbia. Unfortunately, Aldo has said hes logged off, so he isn't available to clarify. Its just not falling in to place for me.
This makes it quite tempting to attempt to bandwagon the one person who is attempting to use logic (Aldo). On the other hand, with the thread as dead as it is today, why would a baddie post at all....
vote saburbia
At least this way the vote will mean something.
slow tonight eh?
Howeve I am pretty sure there are plently of old time players still alive and it doesn't seem like they are the ones being targetted only.
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Yeah, I don't follow his reasoning either. If you can be accused of "following bandwagons" and "not contributing" his posts follow the same pattern. I'm tempted to throw a vote his way, just for the sake of following his logic to a different conclusion.
!Vote Saburbia
!Vote Laos
Clarification: Does the "revenated" living player need to be exhumed to be killed like other revenants? Or does the "revenation" count as a kill on that person, with their name showing in the narration?
Don't bandwagon me too hard now.
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I assumed he just grew up a bit in the time I took a break from playing. :P
Speaking of votes, looks like my !vote for Saburbia might actually accomplish something today.
Also, village, remember that if you bandwagon someone too hard, you make it easy for the bad guys to hide inside the bandwagon. I don't have a problem with us killing off Sab, but I want to see who our other suspects are.
I'll vote to exhume La0s for now, red vote to follow.
His logic isn't.
1. Pretty much if West, the Cultists, and the revenants (their West is dead condition) fail, the village wins. The village could win with the revenants if the latter manage to off West, though. Other win conditions overlap, too, so this could theoretically end with two winning factions.
2. The latter. There's a reason I gave the village a fuckton of killing power. :P (Yes, the Searcher may target Revenants.)
It's another "black" death, so yeah.
I've waited five days to make that pun.
I agree. I really can't see why he was targetting Saburbia specifically over others.
!vote Aldo
But I think we should look closely at who hops on the bandwagon for Saburbia. Aldo did make it pretty easy for baddies to glom on without much suspicion.
In both cases, the reasons presented against both players weren't very convincing yet there were a lot of votes quickly tossed in their direction.
!vote aldo because I think we should turn the saburbia train around and !vote to exhume La0s although I'm pretty certain La0s was a plain old vanillager.
!Vote Saburbia by fire you will be purged
And arise !Vote Laos
Yeah.
The only reason that I can think to vote for him is that he's been to innocent, or something.
Aldo doesn't seem like a good target, he's just got faulty logic.
!Vote B:L, as he seems much more suspicious to me. He hasn't been as proactive as he usually is either. His only initiative targeted two innocents as well (Qorzm, CJ), one of whom ended up being a watcher.