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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
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    Aioua wrote: »
    look I just want hope that I can escape from ever-increasing rent prices at some point

    let me have that hope

    you came to the wrong place buddy

    Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    yeah actually pony do you have a specific example

    (I don't care about spoilers at this point)

    Off the top of my head, basically everything to do with Skylar, who essentially existed to be contrary and generate conflict regardless of whether or not it made internal sense for her to be opposed or upset by something.

    having watched a bunch but not all, that seems plausible to me

    in the first 1.5 seasons at least her motivations, while annoying like her everything was, worked real for me
    like when walt is like, I don't want to treat it, I want to go out with dignity, and skyler can't understand and is hurt and all that, that was some great shit and a great example of the "make characters collide" thing

    like nobody there was just being dumb or not saying just because

    but... come to think of it I... can't remember if much more happens with her in what I've watched

    besides her being increasingly like "walt what the fuck is going on" which, well, yeah

    but I could easily see her tipping into too unreasonable

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Just submitted an apartment application. I'd love to join the homeowner club but when I last inquired they basically laughed at me because my debt to income ratio. Wheee student loans.

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    zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    So I thought I was going straight from KC to Baltimore, psyche you gotta stop at Chicago sucka. You tricked me southwest.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    TV characters are often fundamentally bad at communicating like functioning adults in a way that is both infuriating and kind of gross.

    Like, it actually really bothers me how often that is used as the central point of conflict or drama in television, that these people can't fucking talk like grown ups. It would be fine on characters who are otherwise characterized as man-children or something but it's just portrayed as normal and it's like ugh

    No.

    i've kind of just stopped watching shows once the plot revolves around two or more people just not fucking saying "hey guy this is bothering me" or "hey i have super contagious zombie cancer, sure i'll be the head chef of this colony"

    so infuriatingly stupid

    Yeah CW shows while having a lot of good, also have like an instinctual need to have characters hide information to make the plot work.

    Only show I thought it kind of made sense with was Izombie and even then there were dumb moments of secrecy.

    yeah, i mean, not trusting society with your secret? makes sense

    not trusting your friend who already knows your secret with a new detail that probably wouldn't even matter to them? i guess we get four episodes of conflict out of it

    and i even liked izombie but fuck that was frustrating at times

    Yeah they had less of it than like Arrow or Flash does, but it did grate at points.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    the thing which i found most troubling re: water policy was the research highlighting that well-intentioned policies to increase the cost of water could make the situation worse, since gross water used is not equal to net water used - changes in agricultural practices to reduce gross water use could increase water loss through transpiration

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    not this time

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I have so many goddamn shows I haven't finished

    ...actually I think game of thrones may be the only one I have finished and that's not even done yet

    it is stressing me out

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    I understand not liking a show because you find the characters insufferable. With Breaking Bad, I understand that's pretty easy to do. They're all pretty horrible people.

    But saying the show objectively sucks because it doesn't mesh with your personal experiences is... well, myopic as hell. And pretty closed-minded.

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Just submitted an apartment application. I'd love to join the homeowner club but when I last inquired they basically laughed at me because my debt to income ratio. Wheee student loans.

    Did you forget to rent out that condo your mom gave you to supplement your 200k job that you got upon graduation?

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    finishing sopranos has taken me 15 years so far

    still not there

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    Wait this is a thing?

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    So I thought I was going straight from KC to Baltimore, psyche you gotta stop at Chicago sucka. You tricked me southwest.

    chicago is neither south nor west what is this

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    Wait this is a thing?

    no

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    With a lot of those acclaimed HBO type shows I watch like an episode or two and then I'm like engh

    and then I go back to watching cartoons

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    haha that's rad

    RTJ just released a limited edition set of hoodies and bags handmade by El-P's mom

    desc

    I legit thought this was a reference to Lewie P's Mom for like 3 refreshes of this [chat] page.

    Then I realized that RTJ wasn't Robert Downey Junior, it was Run The Jewels, and for some reason that made me re-think the Lewie P's Mom connection.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Hot Take: Breaking Bad was boring as hell after the first two seasons, to the point I gave up in S4.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I understand not liking a show because you find the characters insufferable. With Breaking Bad, I understand that's pretty easy to do. They're all pretty horrible people.

    But saying the show objectively sucks because it doesn't mesh with your personal experiences is... well, myopic as hell. And pretty closed-minded.

    That's an entirely overboard accusation and a big mischaracterization of "I did not find the characters believable"

    which was all pony said, except with more words and linebreaks because pony

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    Wait this is a thing?

    no

    Oh are they giving you shit because of your shit diet?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    It's funny The Expanse is a sci-fi show but the way they portray their characters is quite human.

    It's actually one of the things I like about it.

    If you notice, it's also a thing people praise Game of Thrones for

    Like yeah it's got zombies and dragons and shit like that but it also has petty politics and backstabbing and people being dickheads for selfish, relatable reasons.

    One of the reasons I've never been a huge fan of "high fantasy" like Lord of the Rings is because characters don't act like people. They act like legends. Like Biblical characters or Platonic ideals. In Tolkien's case this was intentional, in the case of a lot of other "high fantasy" it's just because they're trying to ape Tolkien and/or they're bad at writing people who act like people (RA Salvatore I am scowling in your direction).

    Early TNG has a bit of this too, the characters are inordinately stiff and weird and unpersonlike, largely because Gene had these ideas about what future-people were like so again, it was an intentional affectation. But it also meant, for example, there were no interpersonal conflicts on the Enterprise because Gene believed those weren't a thing in the future? Lmao

    Later TNG and DS9 were better about this stuff.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    yeah actually pony do you have a specific example

    (I don't care about spoilers at this point)

    Off the top of my head, basically everything to do with Skylar, who essentially existed to be contrary and generate conflict...
    Let me introduce you to my brother

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    i've only stopped watching a handful of shows because they just got too dumb for me to take

    like the walking dead

    the only reason i watched that so long is because it was a hangout night thing but i couldn't take it anymore

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Just finished a 12 cup pot of coffee

    Blood pressure was 112/68

    *sips*

    Every once in awhile this stupid shell works well

    Some days Blue wonders why anyone ever bothered making numbers so small; other days she supposes even infinity needs to start somewhere.
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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    I like Legion because it meshes well with my experiences as a maybe crazy mutant.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    Show I did on Monday put up very high quality pics

    I am not photogenic

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    Wait this is a thing?

    no

    Oh are they giving you shit because of your shit diet?

    yes

    are YOU on the beer list?
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I understand not liking a show because you find the characters insufferable. With Breaking Bad, I understand that's pretty easy to do. They're all pretty horrible people.

    But saying the show objectively sucks because it doesn't mesh with your personal experiences is... well, myopic as hell. And pretty closed-minded.

    That's an entirely overboard accusation and a big mischaracterization of "I did not find the characters believable"

    which was all pony said, except with more words and linebreaks because pony

    He said they don't act like people, like flat out. That people do not act like that.

    I'm here to tell you... oh boy, yeah they do.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    The Walking Dead is an excellent interactive TV show

    I hear the non-interactive version can be p dumb tho

    wandering on
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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
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    are YOU on the beer list?
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    spaghetti and meatballs acquired

    gas station spaghooter and balls?

    Wait this is a thing?

    no

    Oh are they giving you shit because of your shit diet?

    yes

    You should maybe work on it, tho.

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    it's just so fucking depressing

    I could get the loans

    but every house within an hour of civilization starts at like $400k

    so cool I always wanted to pay two fucking grand a month for my mortgage :eh:

    who are all these people pulling down 150k a year

    like honestly the market doesn't even make sense... people are here working but they're not all making that much money

    is everyone just house poor

    scraping by paying 2/3rds of their income on rent or mortgage?

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    guys i've only watched the first episode of breaking bad

    and this was because person of interest got super fucking boring

    like ok cool samaritan sweet oh were still doing the boring episodic save random people thing? ok sure ok

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i've only stopped watching a handful of shows because they just got too dumb for me to take

    like the walking dead

    the only reason i watched that so long is because it was a hangout night thing but i couldn't take it anymore

    good lord that show

    I had to quit halfway into season 3

    especially after I read an interview with the showrunners proudly admitting they have no greater story planned and will just keep writing stuff until they're cancelled

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I'm not sure how to react to that picture AH.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i've only stopped watching a handful of shows because they just got too dumb for me to take

    like the walking dead

    the only reason i watched that so long is because it was a hangout night thing but i couldn't take it anymore

    I bailed on that in s2 after an endless storyline with no progress

    but now I kinda want to watch it again b/c atl

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
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    I have never seen that much cheese on meatballs but I approve so hard

    PSN: Honkalot
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i've only stopped watching a handful of shows because they just got too dumb for me to take

    like the walking dead

    the only reason i watched that so long is because it was a hangout night thing but i couldn't take it anymore

    Lost was me.

    That show got dumb quick.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Just about to do the last mission in Horizon.

    Holy shit you guys, they did a fucking great job with this. I stayed up until 3 am chasing the story until I got to some Big Answers and then I was really impressed.

    That's not even counting all the times I killed laser t-rexes in single combat.

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