Yeah I'm big on federal programs and law enforcement is fine with me (for example the coast guard is actually a great and efficient department for border control!) But IcE and CBP can get burned down.
While doing a background investigation for the federal government I've had two different contractors tell me they won't do ICE investigations anymore because the people trying to get into that organization are fucking terrible, criminal records, assholes in interviews, etc.
Also the infiltration by white supremacists, some of which hide their beliefs until they're in the door.
So, an Italian band who were flying in to perform at SXSW were arrested and deported for attempting "illegal immigration." Quoting from their Facebook post.
Official Statement:
We arrived in Seattle on the afternoon of March 8.
We made our way to passport control with our ESTA, a letter from our American label (in which the label owner declared we would be performing a series of concerts for promotional purposes only and that we would in no way be receiving any form of payment for those shows) and a written invitation on the part of SxSw in hand. The first of us to get through passport control was Ale (our drummer), who disclosed the promotional purposes of our trip to the police officer.
Ale (our guitarist) and Andrea who both explained the exact same thing were held up and escorted to another office. Subsequently, we were all called back and interrogated individually, in three different rooms. We were able to have the agents speak directly to the owner of our American label without any success, however. After almost 4 hours of questions they told us their verdict. They had decided to deport us back to Italy and deny us entry into the United States. They declared us illegal immigrants even if our intention was by no means to look for work in the United States nor never go back to Italy.
We accepted this decision as it seemed final at that point. They took our digital fingerprints and took mugshots of us for their file. They confiscated our cell phones and we were denied the possibility of contacting our families and loved ones. Around 10:30pm, two prison officers frisked us, handcuffed us and brought us to jail in a police car. We spent the night in jail and had been escorted there as though we were three criminals. The following day, after having completed all jail-related procedures (mugshots, declaration of good health and signatures), two other agents came to get us. We were searched, handcuffed and again escorted in a police car.
They took us to the customs office we were in the previous day and we waited for our return flight which was scheduled for around 1:00pm local time. Only a short while prior to taking off were we able to get back our cell phones and bags and we were escorted right up to the airplane. We were relieved to fly back home and distance ourselves from that violent, stressful and humiliating situation. We left Italy headed towards the US with all necessary documents, passports and various declarations in which we clearly explained the purpose of our tour, confirming it is was strictly promotional and that we were in no way going to earn money from it or receive any form of payment. We knew that if we were to receive any compensation we would have had to apply for work visas. This was not the case and the people we spoke to for information told us we would be fine. We had not agreed on any payment whatsoever and the scheduled showcase performance at KEXP was most certainly not a paid performance. The point is that the control agents who did a quick check on the concerts we informed them of noticed that two of the venues were asking for entry fees and this was enough to convince them that we needed work visas instead of an ESTA.
We accepted this situation even if we tried to no end to explain the situation and that we were not receiving any form of payment, but there was simply no way of convincing the officials we spoke to. From that moment onwards, we became three illegal immigrants and were treated like criminals.
This is what happened this past Wednesday and Thursday. We would like to thank the people who supported and helped us throughout this ordeal, including Alessio Antoci, Owen Murphy and John Richards.
We would like to apologize to our fans, the owners of the venues, KEXP radio and the SxSw festival.
We would also like to apologize for having had to cancel our American tour and hope to go back soon.
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This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
It probably doesn't help that visa policy in the US is absurd in general (I'm 90% sure this is entirely because racism too). There's no reason that concert tours should even require anything even if they were being paid. If I'm reading that right you'd need a work visa for your company to send you to a conference.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
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This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
I thought one of the reason CBP was so awful was that you are not entitled to a lawyer while they interview you, even if you're a citizen, and after the fact CBP are immune to prosecution due to misbehavior or wrongdoing. There is literally no oversight over the whole department.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
I thought one of the reason CBP was so awful was that you are not entitled to a lawyer while they interview you, even if you're a citizen, and after the fact CBP are immune to prosecution due to misbehavior or wrongdoing. There is literally no oversight over the whole department.
Until recently I assumed that the agency had some oversight, but every time I read about how they operate just gets worse and worse. Burn the whole thing to the ground and salt the Earth.
Enticing self-deportation is goal number 1 for immigration officials at the moment. They know how expensive it would be to actually enforce the kind of mass exodus Trump was promising, so the best way for them is to make it so unappealing for anyone non-white and non-american to live in the US, that they simply show themselves out.
Im sure a certain amount if this goosery has just been happening forever, but doesn't this administration realize how much money the us makes from tourism? And how averse tourists are to potential problems at the border, since it will mean complete loss of their money? Trump runs hotels for petes sake, this is something hee should actually understand.
Im sure a certain amount if this goosery has just been happening forever, but doesn't this administration realize how much money the us makes from tourism? And how averse tourists are to potential problems at the border, since it will mean complete loss of their money? Trump runs hotels for petes sake, this is something hee should actually understand.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
It's a good idea in theory that would be too disruptive in practice. Staffing an agency from the ground up would take a year, even if you had the US Office of Personnel Management firing on all cylinders (you'd have to build up a group of temp staffers there to build up the other agency), and in the meantime you'd have to find temps for CBP and ICE to serve their functions.
Better to just switch to a "secret shopper" system and create a "two strikes and you're out" policy. Hire American and foreign citizens of all races and ethnicities to just travel professionally and take notes on their experience with TSA and CBP. It would work for CBP, anyway. ICE could probably just have their functions replaced by state police arms (a touch more trustworthy than local cops and easier to coordinate the larger-scale stuff that ICE does) until the agency is rebuilt.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
I thought one of the reason CBP was so awful was that you are not entitled to a lawyer while they interview you, even if you're a citizen, and after the fact CBP are immune to prosecution due to misbehavior or wrongdoing. There is literally no oversight over the whole department.
They're not totally immune, but they're mostly able to ignore the 4th Amendment, and even if they violate the Constitution they will probably prevail under an I-didn't-know-I-couldn't-do-that defense
It's real dumb
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It probably doesn't help that visa policy in the US is absurd in general (I'm 90% sure this is entirely because racism too). There's no reason that concert tours should even require anything even if they were being paid. If I'm reading that right you'd need a work visa for your company to send you to a conference.
Yep, I knew a Physics Researcher/Professor who had almost the exact same issue a couple of years ago where CBP decided they didnt like theway his expenses were being reimbursed.
The dude was a tall, white, redhaired, Canadian with a PHD and multiple published works and even a book or two.
If CBP feels like taking a shit in your cheerios they will, and you have no recourse.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
I thought one of the reason CBP was so awful was that you are not entitled to a lawyer while they interview you, even if you're a citizen, and after the fact CBP are immune to prosecution due to misbehavior or wrongdoing. There is literally no oversight over the whole department.
They're not totally immune, but they're mostly able to ignore the 4th Amendment, and even if they violate the Constitution they will probably prevail under an I-didn't-know-I-couldn't-do-that defense
It's real dumb
Honestly the entire qualified immunity doctrine needs to be thrown out.
Alternatively, make a constitutional amendment that adds discrimination on grounds of profession to the ban list. I wonder how many lawmakers would catch that.
Im sure a certain amount if this goosery has just been happening forever, but doesn't this administration realize how much money the us makes from tourism? And how averse tourists are to potential problems at the border, since it will mean complete loss of their money? Trump runs hotels for petes sake, this is something hee should actually understand.
No.
And they don't care. Trump thinks every decision he makes is the absolute best one, so if the tourism industry tanks it's either A. A good thing or B. Not his fault.
So I'm chaperoning a group of 150 or so kids to Washington DC in a few weeks, and our families of color are basically scared shitless. It's been too late to back out and get money back since mid-January, and with Muhammed Ali and various other citizens getting screwed with, they're scared of the non-zero chance that their underage child is going to be detained during our trip.
I honestly don't know what to tell them. Best we can say is: If you decide to go and get sent back, you still lose the money you spent on the trip as if you'd never went, but you have the opportunity to sue the shit out of the government.
Insane. The Coast Guard is a remarkably efficient, effective anti-illegal immigration outfit already.
This little bit at the end is particularly galling :
'Homeowners in flood-prone areas of the country also would be levied a surcharge on their flood insurance, according to the document, although the OMB has been asked to come up with a plan to limit the extra payment for homeowners with “lower-value” homes.'
I can just see the justification now. "How can we profit off the increased rainfall from global warming (which we keep telling them doesn't exist)? I know! Tax the poor! I guess we can give them a coupon or something if they complain too much?"
I hear nothing but good things about Coast Guard, like how they're one of the few organizations to have their shit together for Katrina despite being a rather small for a branch of service.
I don't get what's motivating this at all. Maybe they're not ideal SS material?
Why do we need a coast guard when we have a navy? A navy that needs billion dollar supercarriers and jerbs!
Well, you see once we build the wall, the illegal immigrants will logically have to change their tactics and begin trying to get into the country in like, discarded soviet supercarriers which will need sinking. Perhaps on the backs of giant lizards. Our coastguard won't be up to the task and the navy will have to fight them in straight up battleship duels. Just like war works.
Insane. The Coast Guard is a remarkably efficient, effective anti-illegal immigration outfit already.
This little bit at the end is particularly galling :
'Homeowners in flood-prone areas of the country also would be levied a surcharge on their flood insurance, according to the document, although the OMB has been asked to come up with a plan to limit the extra payment for homeowners with “lower-value” homes.'
I can just see the justification now. "How can we profit off the increased rainfall from global warming (which we keep telling them doesn't exist)? I know! Tax the poor! I guess we can give them a coupon or something if they complain too much?"
I hear nothing but good things about Coast Guard, like how they're one of the few organizations to have their shit together for Katrina despite being a rather small for a branch of service.
I don't get what's motivating this at all. Maybe they're not ideal SS material?
You assume Trump or his people have any clue what the Coast Guard does. I assume they are ignorant morons who just saw it as a place to take money from.
It probably doesn't help that visa policy in the US is absurd in general (I'm 90% sure this is entirely because racism too). There's no reason that concert tours should even require anything even if they were being paid. If I'm reading that right you'd need a work visa for your company to send you to a conference.
Yep, I knew a Physics Researcher/Professor who had almost the exact same issue a couple of years ago where CBP decided they didnt like theway his expenses were being reimbursed.
The dude was a tall, white, redhaired, Canadian with a PHD and multiple published works and even a book or two.
If CBP feels like taking a shit in your cheerios they will, and you have no recourse.
I've heard in the media a white Canadian lady was turned away because she posted anti-Trump messages on her phone, and a white Australia author. They're not just going after minorities or immigrants they're going after anyone who didn't drink the Trump kool aide.
The Canadian case I heard of, if it's the same one, was that she was coming here specifically to join protests against Trump. And tbh, in that case I can see why you'd get turned away. "Why are you coming to our country?" "Oh, going to protest, maybe some light rioting, I promise no looting, though!"
The Canadian case I heard of, if it's the same one, was that she was coming here specifically to join protests against Trump. And tbh, in that case I can see why you'd get turned away. "Why are you coming to our country?" "Oh, going to protest, maybe some light rioting, I promise no looting, though!"
Yea, while we might have wanted to let her in in this case, it's probably important to remember that the same precedent could be used for, say, Russia to fly over planes of people to go 'protest' Democrats.
The Canadian case I heard of, if it's the same one, was that she was coming here specifically to join protests against Trump. And tbh, in that case I can see why you'd get turned away. "Why are you coming to our country?" "Oh, going to protest, maybe some light rioting, I promise no looting, though!"
I cannot agree with that being a good reason. Not a legal reason, anyway.
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The Canadian case I heard of, if it's the same one, was that she was coming here specifically to join protests against Trump. And tbh, in that case I can see why you'd get turned away. "Why are you coming to our country?" "Oh, going to protest, maybe some light rioting, I promise no looting, though!"
There were several others who got turned away, including a muslim teen in a track and field team (he was the only one denied entry, in the team).
Several canadians citizens who happened to be muslim were denied entry to the US.
In Yassine Aber's case, they denied him because he had friends in common with a guy who allegedly left to fight in the middle east and had been seen in a picture with the guy/went to the same mosque.
This thread reminds me of the old police thread. Whenever there was a new post I could be sure it'd be a story that would outrage me to a ridiculous degree with new stories of humans treating other human beings as something other than a human being for no reason whatsoever.
No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and take contradiction as a direct personal affront, which makes them want to hurt the people in their custody for no reason other than said contradiction.
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just deport every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
I don't care where to. International Waters if you must. Revoke their citizenship and set them adrift in the world, it's the only fitting justice.
(*edit* I know that this is neither possible nor legal but I don't care. This is how angry I am.)
Please give context to videos for those of us who can't watch them at present.
I watched it, it's an Irish Senator who is visiting the US to participate in an Irish American protest against Trump's immigration policies on St. Patrick's Day. He says that any Irish American who supports the Muslim ban has forgotten their Irish Heritage, specifically the struggles that Irish immigrants went through in the US.
I don't really know anything about this guy, but I like what I heard in this interview.
Please give context to videos for those of us who can't watch them at present.
I watched it, it's an Irish Senator who is visiting the US to participate in an Irish American protest against Trump's immigration policies on St. Patrick's Day. He says that any Irish American who supports the Muslim ban has forgotten their Irish Heritage, specifically the struggles that Irish immigrants went through in the US.
I don't really know anything about this guy, but I like what I heard in this interview.
Every non native american who supports Trumps muslim ban is a hypocritical moron.
Every native american who supports the muslim ban is a dick,
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Please give context to videos for those of us who can't watch them at present.
I watched it, it's an Irish Senator who is visiting the US to participate in an Irish American protest against Trump's immigration policies on St. Patrick's Day. He says that any Irish American who supports the Muslim ban has forgotten their Irish Heritage, specifically the struggles that Irish immigrants went through in the US.
I don't really know anything about this guy, but I like what I heard in this interview.
Every non native american who supports Trumps muslim ban is a hypocritical moron.
Every native american who supports the muslim ban is a dick,
And insane to boot
I can imagine ignorant racist Latino and Hindu pricks being in favor of the ban
You'd have to be a uniquely stupid Native American to be in favor of it
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No one is going to want to come to the US if this is how CBP is going to treat everyone who comes through. Especially since the CBP agents seem to be A) none too swift and
This band had all their paperwork in order, and still couldn't get in because CBP decided to be stubborn.
Seriously, just fire every single person in CBP (and ICE), and make brand new departments. They are worse than useless, they are a detriment to the USA.
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Pretty sure the bolded is the goal.
Sadly, not much we can do to change that for... well, until 2020 at least. Best we can do is keep sending the ACLU after them.
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I thought one of the reason CBP was so awful was that you are not entitled to a lawyer while they interview you, even if you're a citizen, and after the fact CBP are immune to prosecution due to misbehavior or wrongdoing. There is literally no oversight over the whole department.
Until recently I assumed that the agency had some oversight, but every time I read about how they operate just gets worse and worse. Burn the whole thing to the ground and salt the Earth.
They try to come here and take all our Italian band jobs.
They were deported because of xenophobia.
No.
It's a good idea in theory that would be too disruptive in practice. Staffing an agency from the ground up would take a year, even if you had the US Office of Personnel Management firing on all cylinders (you'd have to build up a group of temp staffers there to build up the other agency), and in the meantime you'd have to find temps for CBP and ICE to serve their functions.
Better to just switch to a "secret shopper" system and create a "two strikes and you're out" policy. Hire American and foreign citizens of all races and ethnicities to just travel professionally and take notes on their experience with TSA and CBP. It would work for CBP, anyway. ICE could probably just have their functions replaced by state police arms (a touch more trustworthy than local cops and easier to coordinate the larger-scale stuff that ICE does) until the agency is rebuilt.
They're not totally immune, but they're mostly able to ignore the 4th Amendment, and even if they violate the Constitution they will probably prevail under an I-didn't-know-I-couldn't-do-that defense
It's real dumb
The dude was a tall, white, redhaired, Canadian with a PHD and multiple published works and even a book or two.
If CBP feels like taking a shit in your cheerios they will, and you have no recourse.
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Honestly the entire qualified immunity doctrine needs to be thrown out.
Alternatively, make a constitutional amendment that adds discrimination on grounds of profession to the ban list. I wonder how many lawmakers would catch that.
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And they don't care. Trump thinks every decision he makes is the absolute best one, so if the tourism industry tanks it's either A. A good thing or B. Not his fault.
I honestly don't know what to tell them. Best we can say is: If you decide to go and get sent back, you still lose the money you spent on the trip as if you'd never went, but you have the opportunity to sue the shit out of the government.
I hear nothing but good things about Coast Guard, like how they're one of the few organizations to have their shit together for Katrina despite being a rather small for a branch of service.
I don't get what's motivating this at all. Maybe they're not ideal SS material?
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Well, you see once we build the wall, the illegal immigrants will logically have to change their tactics and begin trying to get into the country in like, discarded soviet supercarriers which will need sinking. Perhaps on the backs of giant lizards. Our coastguard won't be up to the task and the navy will have to fight them in straight up battleship duels. Just like war works.
You assume Trump or his people have any clue what the Coast Guard does. I assume they are ignorant morons who just saw it as a place to take money from.
I've heard in the media a white Canadian lady was turned away because she posted anti-Trump messages on her phone, and a white Australia author. They're not just going after minorities or immigrants they're going after anyone who didn't drink the Trump kool aide.
That's the one.
I cannot agree with that being a good reason. Not a legal reason, anyway.
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There were several others who got turned away, including a muslim teen in a track and field team (he was the only one denied entry, in the team).
Several canadians citizens who happened to be muslim were denied entry to the US.
In Yassine Aber's case, they denied him because he had friends in common with a guy who allegedly left to fight in the middle east and had been seen in a picture with the guy/went to the same mosque.
They claim it's not racial profiling, though.
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I don't care where to. International Waters if you must. Revoke their citizenship and set them adrift in the world, it's the only fitting justice.
(*edit* I know that this is neither possible nor legal but I don't care. This is how angry I am.)
Please give context to videos for those of us who can't watch them at present.
I watched it, it's an Irish Senator who is visiting the US to participate in an Irish American protest against Trump's immigration policies on St. Patrick's Day. He says that any Irish American who supports the Muslim ban has forgotten their Irish Heritage, specifically the struggles that Irish immigrants went through in the US.
I don't really know anything about this guy, but I like what I heard in this interview.
Every non native american who supports Trumps muslim ban is a hypocritical moron.
Every native american who supports the muslim ban is a dick,
And insane to boot
I can imagine ignorant racist Latino and Hindu pricks being in favor of the ban
You'd have to be a uniquely stupid Native American to be in favor of it