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Tropico | Tropico 4 Plans a Bloodless Coup in 2011

TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEONRegistered User regular
edited December 2010 in Games and Technology
Tropico 4 is coming! It's like Tropico 3, but more expensive!
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Greetings, El Presidente!

Welcome to Tropico 3! I know you're probably itching to get right in to running your own Caribbean dictatorship, with bribing and military police and Communists and papayas, but before we get started, maybe you ought to have a little history lesson? We don't want to forget our roots, after all, even if you are newly appointed by the CIA and have never set foot on an island before.
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Tropico

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Tropico was the game that started it all. Eventually it had an expansion, Paradise Island, which was pretty good too. In Tropico, you play as the dictator of a small Caribbean island, much like you, Presidente! Your objective is twofold: the island must thrive, and your Swiss Bank account must thrive. Of course, it's never that easy. To make the island (and your bank account) wealthy, you must make many choices. What kind of industry do you want? Do you want to attract tourism to your island and make money by selling them cheap "handmade" arts and crafts? Or do you want to mine bauxite and export it to the Capitalist pigs? If you decide to attract tourists, how do you keep them from seeing the slums? How do you afford the power plant you need to keep their hotel air conditioned? And how do you deal with the discontent of the working man, who can't afford the restaurants you built for the tourists?

Tropico is both accessible and intricate. Its depth is probably its best quality, in addition to is absolutely awesome music. (Check out this YouTube channel for all of it.) And the humor. It's hilarious. Anyways, everything in the game is interconnected, and every choice you make has ripple effects. Tropico is driven by the people. Every citizen in the game has a needs/desires bar that makes your Sims look like wind-up toys. One person might be an intellectual and a Capitalist, so if you cut funding to the school and start making lovey eyes at the USSR, he won't vote for you. You'll make the religious Communist happy if you spend the money you saved on a new church or a visit from the Pope, but if you order the secret police to take care of the intellectual, you might end up with nobody happy. Except yourself because you took 10% of the cost of the new church and funneled it into your bank account.

Tropico is a city building game, but the connection to each and every person on your island is second only to your connection to yourself, El Presidente. You get to customize your dossier, choosing an origin, strengths, weaknesses, and some other thing I think. I usually made my guy a flatulent, womanizing Communist who was a friend of the farmers. Or, you could create a slick businessman born with a silver spoon in his mouth who has a gambling habit that he has trouble keeping under control. The island is yours to mess with.

It's a ton of fun, and you can buy Tropico and the expansion off of Steam if you want to relive the glory days. It also comes with...
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Tropico 2: Pirate Cove

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While you read about pirates, you should probably listen to some pirate music which is almost as good as the original Tropico music.

In Tropico 2, you're the pirate king. You're basically in charge of Tortuga from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Instead of fattening your Swiss bank account and placating the US and the USSR, you're stashing loot in your treasure hideaway and trying to keep your pirates full of booze, wenches, and food while the terrified captives they bring back slave away in your industries or wait around until they're ransomed. Tropico 2, like Tropico, is dripping in atmosphere. Cats wander the island while captives shuffle past the gallows to work under the supervision of pirates who would rather be out sailing and plundering. You control what your pirate ships do, like telling them who to prey on (the French? Britain? Everyone?), and you try to keep a balance on your island between anarchy, which pirates love, and order, which keeps captives in line.

Tropico 2 is a fun game, but unfortunately it doesn't quite live up to Tropico in my estimation. The setting is fantastic, and the basics are all there, but the fundamental gameplay is a little less nuanced and doesn't really come together in the same way Tropico does. Tropico gave you a ton of options that really meant different things when you chose between them, whereas Tropico 2 ends up pigeonholing you into a few directions. It's still fun, though, and if you get Tropico off of Steam then you get Tropico 2 too.
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Tropico 3

I'm glad you're back, El Presidente! Was your stay in the past enjoyable? I hope those pirates didn't rough you up too much! I think you'll find the island has changed for the better while you were gone...

The people are thrilled to have you back!

Tropico 3 is the newest addition to the Tropico line, and in grand old Tropico tradition, you find yourself as El Presidente, the dictator of a tropical island during the Cold War. The game is coming to Steam soon, but what you should really do is download the Tropico 3 demo (you can find other mirrors if you look). Tropico 3 takes Tropico and makes it prettier and deeper. You, El Presidente, are now in the game, and you can give speeches from your presidential palace, supervise construction to speed it up, visit parts of the island, and so on. There are also cars now, and new features like actual speeches and things like that, but really Tropico 3 seems a lot like Tropico from the 5 minutes I played.

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Anyone interested in city building games, or humor, really ought to check the demo out. The advisor from the previous 2 games is back, and his amusing mix of flattery and condescension never gets old. The tutorial is worth playing just to hear him talk. The tutorial is worth playing just to hear him talk. So, has anyone played it? Liked it? Memories of Tropico or Tropico 2 to share? Who remembers the Tropico manual? That thing had dossiers on tons of dictators all throughout history on every page. I learned more from that manual than from some history classes.

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Fun Links for Fun People
The PA forums city building game megathread
Tropico 3 on Steam
The original Tropicos on Steam

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    SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Oh dear... this seems like it will be a terrible terrible time sink for me...

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    played the demo last night since I loved tropico 1

    Fun game, took about 2 hours to go thorugh the two demo missions. only complaint is even on the fastest speed setting the game pace is very sloooooooooooow.

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Tropico's manual was awesome. I miss manuals that were fun to read.

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    Fatal3RR0RFatal3RR0R Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Must resist the urge to buy 1 & 2!

    My backlog is already big enough. >.>

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    BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah this is pretty exciting. I'm really amazed how "Tropico" it feels, especially since it's being handled by completely different people. Also, the new engine looks great. The look of the game translated very well into full 3D.

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    DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've never tried Tropico, but a friend of mine loves the first one and perhaps now is the time for me to finally get into it.

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    ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Tropico is the best game.

    I always wound up being a big commie unless I actively focused on being a capitalist (and even then it was kind of hard).

    Downloading demo now.

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    BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    No matter my intentions as I start the game, I always ended a game of Tropico as a horrible fascist with guard towers everywhere and a sizeable population of revolutionaries hiding in the outskirts of town waiting to strike. It's not that I'm an evil ruler, it's that I'm an unskilled ruler who wants to stay in power so I can fix stuff. It just always escalates.

    There's probably a lesson in there that I can take away from the game.

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    Liquid HellzLiquid Hellz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    No matter my intentions as I start the game, I always ended a game of Tropico as a horrible fascist with guard towers everywhere and a sizeable population of revolutionaries hiding in the outskirts of town waiting to strike. It's not that I'm an evil ruler, it's that I'm an unskilled ruler who wants to stay in power so I can fix stuff. It just always escalates.

    There's probably a lesson in there that I can take away from the game.

    Yes there is.

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    JimpyJimpy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You sold me.

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    meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So this is on 360 too according to Wiki. I'm scuured! D:

    Is the PC interface "console-friendly" or are they gonna redo it for the 360 version ala Civ Revolution?

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    wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    meatflower wrote: »
    So this is on 360 too according to Wiki. I'm scuured! D:

    Is the PC interface "console-friendly" or are they gonna redo it for the 360 version ala Civ Revolution?

    I don't know about the 360 version but the PC interface is similar to Tropico 1 but a tad more explained and accesible. It doesn't seem console-ized in the least. Makes me curious about what they're going to do with the 360 one though.

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    mwoodymwoody Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Enjoying the demo, but the engine seems to stutter a lot, regardless of visual settings. It's like it's loading data or something; I'm not sure exactly what's going on. And it frustrates me that I can't, unless I've missed it, set WASD to move the camera.

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Played the demo, definitely a day one purchase. They nailed the feel of Tropico almost perfectly.
    meatflower wrote: »
    So this is on 360 too according to Wiki. I'm scuured! D:

    Is the PC interface "console-friendly" or are they gonna redo it for the 360 version ala Civ Revolution?
    Remarkably it isn't. I was scared too when they announced that, but they don't seem to have compromised the PC version at all.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Just played the first mission in the demo. Seems pretty awesome: basically just Tropico plus a bit more stuff, with awesome graphics. The engine seems to stutter when I zoom all the way out very quickly, but otherwise it's smooth. In no time at all I was laying down pineapple farms and canneries like nobody's business.

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    FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've finished the second mission at least 5 times. I'd like this game now, please.

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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yes. I pissed away so much time with the first one way back when. And now I want to get the first two off of Steam to hold me over.

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    SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So when does this come out? Steam says "September" which is oddly vague.

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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wiki says October 16th.

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sceptre wrote: »
    So when does this come out? Steam says "September" which is oddly vague.
    October 16th. Steam is out of date.

    Edit: beat.

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    mwoodymwoody Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    After playing with it a while, my earlier complaint re: the engine stuttering hasn't been an issue - it seems to be an update necessary only when you zoom in/out a lot quickly, which I don't seem to do in-game. Overall, I'm having tremendous fun with the game, and will definitely be purchasing it on release. Viva... uh, me!

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    AdditionalPylonsAdditionalPylons Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wiki says October 16th.

    Actually,wiki says October 16th for xbox360 and September 24 for PC

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    wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I played through the demo missions and now I just want MORE. It captures the essence of Tropico 1 so well, yet modernizes it and moves a little faster.

    But like all games it comes out for PC at a later date.

    E tu, city building games? E tu?

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wiki says October 16th.

    Actually,wiki says October 16th for xbox360 and September 24 for PC
    That's only in Germany.

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    Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Man, Tropico was one of my favorite 'oh god I'm so terrible at this game' games. Downloading the demo now.

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    ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The best part about Tropico was that being bad at it made it more fun.

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    MindstormMindstorm Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Crap. I bought Red Faction: Guerilla off of steam earlier this week, anticipating its release.

    Now it looks like tropico 3 will be bought with similar anticipation. I haven't even downloaded and played the demo yet, but I know it's just going to be that awesome.

    Agh, I'm going to have a backlog of games just like everybody else.

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, Tropico one of very few games I've played that is actually fun to fail at. I remember one game I was running a dictatorship on a high difficulty setting. I had played many dictatorships before, so I was pretty confident I could stave off coups and rebellions and hold on to power (at least until the inevitable late game manufacturing economy slowdown). Needless to say, my people started an uprising, which I was not expecting. The loyalists won (barely), but like half of my workforce was wiped out.

    And it was awesome.

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    AdditionalPylonsAdditionalPylons Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Kanamit wrote: »
    Wiki says October 16th.

    Actually,wiki says October 16th for xbox360 and September 24 for PC
    That's only in Germany.

    Crap.

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    MindstormMindstorm Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ah, El Presidente's palace just got flattened.

    I should've built that high school and college sooner, then trained up a bigger army.

    Damn you, rebels!

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Just played the demo, that was awesome.

    A "could buy" because damn if October doesn't already have some good stuff coming.

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    bamjobamjo Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I still have the soundtrack cd that came with Tropico 1. These songs are so damn catchy. I would always play as Lou Bega, and my island would be full of nightclubs and resorts.

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    ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My biggest issue with the demo is the adviser guy's voice sounds stupid compared to the original guy

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I never realised how much work it is to be a dictator. I mean, you need to have people working at both the police station and the jails.

    Stupid non-working jails causing me to lose an election I didn't have to hold.

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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    As an introduction to the Tropico series, this is really fun. Definitely getting the full version.

    The quirky humour and very thought-out gameplay experience work well. The various gameplay mechanics all feel like a very cohesive experience, with nothing being obviously tacked-on or not affecting anything else. The scale's nice too, as it's large enough to have a degree of freedom but small enough to give the island a very personal feel.

    This really is how citybuilders should be.

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    farbekriegfarbekrieg Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Ohh tropico how long has it been since last we danced, me wildly trying to put down rebellions and you wildly trying to avoid my devoted utter adulation and all the naughty and messy things that entails, in the end I believe I was able to tame you for merest moments, ahh what? October... well fark me now i have to go find my disks.

    Why must you tease me this way with demos when I crave your scandilious and buxom robustness of full game.

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    FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I was always too nice to my people. I'd build tourist attractions and condominiums and lower the rent so my dudes could use them and my island would spiral into economic decay and the capitalists would hate me and I'd get voted out.

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    Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I built a bunch of farms, but 3 people starved to death anyway. Also it doesn't look like the farms are producing anything; their exports are all at 0. How do I see how much food is actually being produced vs how much my people need to not starve?

    I wasn't sure how to tell whether you have enough housing for people at first, but it soon becam obvious. If you don't give them housing, they build shacks and shanties themselves. Which is just awesome.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Mr Ray wrote: »
    I built a bunch of farms, but 3 people starved to death anyway. Also it doesn't look like the farms are producing anything; their exports are all at 0. How do I see how much food is actually being produced vs how much my people need to not starve?

    I wasn't sure how to tell whether you have enough housing for people at first, but it soon becam obvious. If you don't give them housing, they build shacks and shanties themselves. Which is just awesome.

    Farms take a while to produce food. I think the game said 3 years before they're at full production. I know fishing is faster, and I bet ranching is too.

    On housing, I haven't found much use for the small type houses. Everyone seems to like tenements and apartments more than bunkhouses and country homes. I guess it could be an aesthetic choice you.

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    KanamitKanamit Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Mr Ray wrote: »
    I built a bunch of farms, but 3 people starved to death anyway. Also it doesn't look like the farms are producing anything; their exports are all at 0. How do I see how much food is actually being produced vs how much my people need to not starve?

    I wasn't sure how to tell whether you have enough housing for people at first, but it soon becam obvious. If you don't give them housing, they build shacks and shanties themselves. Which is just awesome.
    What kind of farms? Some (corn, papayas, bananas) are eaten by your people with whatever's left over exported, others are purely cash crops. It's possible that not all of your population had access to the farms, in which case building a marketplace would have solved your problem. Also, never ever implement the "food for the people" edict; it always lead to starvation in Tropico 1 and Tropico 3 is no different. Some damn advisor convinced me to do it in the second scenario and by the end dozens of people were dying of starvation. Still had a happiness rating of 60%, though.

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