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Mario & Luigi: Globin of the Year
Sterica
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Further proof there is no God, Wednesday is going to be a day of wallet suicide. Two games competing for your gaming time: both worthy of such. You may have heard of one, and this is the other.
But first, a history lesson.
Mario + RPG = Awesome
Once upon a time, two companies got together to make an RPG. One had the most popular franchise of all time and the other the most popular RPGs of all time. Both companies shared a history of shitting gold and sharing it with the world.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars is the name of that game.
Release for the Super Nintendo towards the end of its lifespan, the game once again proved Mario's flexibility and ability to pretty much be awesome in any genre. Awesome soundtrack, cool story and more interactive turn-based combat has made Mario RPG one of the best games on the SNES and for many the best in the series.
It's available on Wii via Virtual Console. If you haven't played it, stop reading this thread and do so NOW.
Mario - Dimension = Awesome
The Nintendo 64 had one problem: no Squaresoft. Certain issues during the SNES days lead Nintendo to part ways with the company. But how would we get our Mario RPG sequel?
Goddamn Intelligent Systems, that's who.
Adding a quirky style that made the characters out of 2D paper on a 3D plane, the series was more light-hearted than Seven Stars and became know for wacky humor. Thousand Year Door, in particular, has an awesome translation job and is hilarious. Super Paper Mario is unique in that it's a sidescroller with RPG elements.
Paper Mario is also on Virtual Console.
Mario + Luigi = AWESOME
The handhelds decided they wanted their own Mario RPG, so Nintendo grabbed AlphaDream. You'd think a developer whose primary experience was making Hamtaro games wouldn't be a smart choce. But you'd be foolish.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, was released and the world trembled at the awesome contained within. It's my personal favorite of all the RPGs, even the SNES original. It really feels more like a Mario game and wonderfully fleshes out the personalities of Mario and that green dude.
The combat in Mario & Luigi is also different. It takes the interaction that all the games have and pushes it to the limit. If you fuck up your button presses, the attack will totally fizzle. And many boss battle REQUIRE you to find the patterns in their attacks and avoid them. You're not finding the right timing to take less damage, but rather to goddamn LIVE. Making this more complicated is that Mario and Luigi have their own buttons and you gotta keep track of both.
Partners in Time was the first DS release, and a strong effort. It's simply not as charming as the first. Maybe I just hate time travel and all the baby characters. Nonetheless, I recommend it.
Now, let's discuss the sequel.
Some illness is causing Toads to bloat up into horrible balls. Bowser ate a mushroom and is now part hoover (the vacuum, not the former President). Fawful is back and has more fury than ever. Shit is truly going down.
Did I mention that Mario and Luigi were eaten by Bowser? Yeah, feces meet fan.
M&L 3 is as much a Bowser game as it is Mario. You get to battle as Bowser and even grow huge in Godzilla-esque battles with the stylus. The brothers, on the other hand, have to find a way out of Bowser while also fixing anything wrong with him. Bowser will, in essence, be replacing the babies from Partners in Time.
Reviews are already coming in and coming in strong. There's already a bit of talk holding the game as the best Mario RPG yet.
But first, a history lesson.
Mario + RPG = Awesome
Once upon a time, two companies got together to make an RPG. One had the most popular franchise of all time and the other the most popular RPGs of all time. Both companies shared a history of shitting gold and sharing it with the world.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars is the name of that game.
Release for the Super Nintendo towards the end of its lifespan, the game once again proved Mario's flexibility and ability to pretty much be awesome in any genre. Awesome soundtrack, cool story and more interactive turn-based combat has made Mario RPG one of the best games on the SNES and for many the best in the series.
It's available on Wii via Virtual Console. If you haven't played it, stop reading this thread and do so NOW.
Mario - Dimension = Awesome
The Nintendo 64 had one problem: no Squaresoft. Certain issues during the SNES days lead Nintendo to part ways with the company. But how would we get our Mario RPG sequel?
Goddamn Intelligent Systems, that's who.
Adding a quirky style that made the characters out of 2D paper on a 3D plane, the series was more light-hearted than Seven Stars and became know for wacky humor. Thousand Year Door, in particular, has an awesome translation job and is hilarious. Super Paper Mario is unique in that it's a sidescroller with RPG elements.
Paper Mario is also on Virtual Console.
Mario + Luigi = AWESOME
The handhelds decided they wanted their own Mario RPG, so Nintendo grabbed AlphaDream. You'd think a developer whose primary experience was making Hamtaro games wouldn't be a smart choce. But you'd be foolish.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, was released and the world trembled at the awesome contained within. It's my personal favorite of all the RPGs, even the SNES original. It really feels more like a Mario game and wonderfully fleshes out the personalities of Mario and that green dude.
The combat in Mario & Luigi is also different. It takes the interaction that all the games have and pushes it to the limit. If you fuck up your button presses, the attack will totally fizzle. And many boss battle REQUIRE you to find the patterns in their attacks and avoid them. You're not finding the right timing to take less damage, but rather to goddamn LIVE. Making this more complicated is that Mario and Luigi have their own buttons and you gotta keep track of both.
Partners in Time was the first DS release, and a strong effort. It's simply not as charming as the first. Maybe I just hate time travel and all the baby characters. Nonetheless, I recommend it.
Now, let's discuss the sequel.
Some illness is causing Toads to bloat up into horrible balls. Bowser ate a mushroom and is now part hoover (the vacuum, not the former President). Fawful is back and has more fury than ever. Shit is truly going down.
Did I mention that Mario and Luigi were eaten by Bowser? Yeah, feces meet fan.
M&L 3 is as much a Bowser game as it is Mario. You get to battle as Bowser and even grow huge in Godzilla-esque battles with the stylus. The brothers, on the other hand, have to find a way out of Bowser while also fixing anything wrong with him. Bowser will, in essence, be replacing the babies from Partners in Time.
Reviews are already coming in and coming in strong. There's already a bit of talk holding the game as the best Mario RPG yet.
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My love for Paper Mario is fairly obvious, but the handheld RPG's and me have had difficult times. They're fantastic games, but I couldn't beat the final boss of Partners In Time after hours and when I found a copy of Superstar Saga a couple of months ago, it crapped itself and wiped my save file
Still, will be looking forward to this, likely day 1.
Oh, I just remembered the awesome final boss music for Inside Story I found while on TV Tropes a while back.
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And I'm still holding onto the hope that one day, we'll get a proper sequel to Super Mario RPG.
my sentiments exactly
i absolutely adored superstar saga, loved all of the paper marios, and super mario rpg
detested partners in time
definently going to have to wait and see for this one
The return of Fawful and no babies is what really seals the deal.
Legend of the Seven Stars is probably my favorite game of all time.
So, wednesday. My wallet dislikes this.
EDIT: Wait, not in Europeland apparently?
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Yes, Super Paper Mario was fun, but I want a return to proper Paper Mario in the next one.
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I hope that the babies pop up in RPG3 just to spite you haters. I also plan on picking this up immediately - if only to see some of the best writing in gaming and hear my favorite brand of fake-Italian.
Also, is it still standard practice to release japanese games way later in the west, or is it just Nintendo that still does this? It's been out for eight months in Japan.
Yes, generally with RPGs they would prefer people be able to read them without learning japanese first.
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Oh DS, when will you ever stop with the great games?!
(Don't stop)
Controversial opinion, but it's the least favourite of mine. Probably because I didn't play it until many years later and after I'd played Paper Mario.
Even though it brought in many new things, to me it still has too many lingering elements of 'Let's make Final Fantasy with mario in it!' as opposed to the sequels which are all their own beast.
This accurately sums up my thoughts. 1,000 Year Door was great, Super was fun, but I don't buy Paper Mario games to be platformers.
Hopefully they didn't use any of that design philosophy while making this game.
I'm thinking I should have played it in it's heyday, because it was a little underwhelming. After playing the magnificence that was Superstar Saga years ago and part of Paper Mario, Mario RPG feels like a few steps backwards.
I haven't picked it back up since.
So long as they go back to that more action-oriented style, I'll be happy. And I strongly intend to buy the game anyway, just to see Mario and Luigi bash each other with hammers and yell at each other in perverted Italian.
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I always chuckled when Mario would yell "Babies!" in PiT when something bad was happening.
You really should do yourself a favor and pick up the first Mario & Luigi game for the Gameboy Advance. It's one of the best Mario games, period, to come out in a while.
First, there's the level design. I'm willing to give up a bit of non-linearity in exchange for clever level design, but the areas in PiT really weren't that interesting compared to the original game. SS had levels that required you to split up the party for extended periods of time and accomplish various tasks, while PiT usually just involved sending in the babies while the adults didn't do much. The dungeons also almost always had one more floor than they actually needed, leading me to feel bored by the end.
Second, there's the time travel mechanic, or lack thereof. PiT handles time travel in about the dumbest way possible of any story I've ever seen. Travelling almost exclusively to areas in the past that are never seen in the present is obnoxious, but the worst part has to be gettting attacked by a non-time travelling enemy in the past (so there's no excuse about the timeline being changed) and yet being completely suprised about it in the present. Why does no one remember anything that happened back then? Did they get their memories wiped at some point in the intervening time, and if they did, why aren't they more worried about the cause of the memory wipe than about some threat that obviously resolved itself since everything is fine in the present?
The 2 handheld Mario games rule all, as do the first 2 Paper Mario games. Mario RPG is really good as well, even if it's showing it's age a bit. Super Paper Mario is okay, but damn tedious after awhile. I can't imagine playing through it twice.
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Excuse me?
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The bosses in Super Mario World.
Sorry, I suppose I should have been more elaborate.
Since when are the koopa kids in NSMBW?
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I would think no because weren't they in superstar saga already? Unless they get a cameo or something.
Always, as far I can remember. I think they were in the trailer. Apparently not. My mistake.
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