Where we talk about men and women's fashion, clothing, style, hair, etc. This OP will be mostly geared towards men's fashion because I'm guessing most people reading this will be men and will need the most help. Also I am a man so I know less about women's fashion. If you have any questions it really helps if you post a picture to help others give the best advice possible. You can also treat this as a What Are You Wearing Today (WAYWT) thread and post outfits that you are wearing or some of your outfits that you find interesting.
Basic things about fashion for the newcomers:
There are rules for fashion but they can always be broken successfully if you know about the rules and are making a conscious and well thought out way of breaking it. Also, if you need a coat for winter go with a peacoat it is a very safe bet and looks good and pretty much everyone.
Other basic rules:
- Navy and black don't mix.
- Your belt and shoes should match.
- Brown shoes/ belt with blue, green or tan suits/ jackets. Black for most everything else.
- Skinny lapels skinny tie. Fat lapels fat tie.
- No white after labor day (I break this rule somewhat often but this is usually on warm days).
- Fedoras look bad on almost everyone.
- Wear very very short socks or no socks at all when wearing shoes and shorts.
- Black button-up shirt with ties and/ or jackets are a fucking atrocity
- If you wear a tshirt under a large coat like a peacoat make sure you wear a scarf to cover your neck/t-shirt otherwise it looks kind of silly.
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Scarf / ascot tying guide.
Make sure things FIT PROPERLY:
This means that the seams of our shirt should be on the top of your shoulder and not down on your arm. Shirts should also fit your arm length and chest size. Long sleeve shirts should come down to the hinge of your wrist and if worn with a suit jacket should show 1/4 to 1/2 inch of your shirt at your wrist. Outerwear coats should technically stop where your thumb bone meets your hand so halfway between your wrist and knuckles. I really prefer my coats to stop 1/4 of the way between my wrist and knuckles so it doesn't look like the sleeve is swallowing my hand. Your pants should stay on your waist without using a belt but belts are still suggested. Most pants should just be long enough that they touch the top of your shoe with little or no break (ie you shouldn't be walking on your jeans).
Picture to show you what I mean NOW LOOK!:
Here is how a shirt should fit your shoulder and this applies to tshirts as well as dress shirts. Pictures are posted from worst to best:
Notice how the shoulder seam is wayyyy down on my arm and not up on the shoulder. (this is a large):
This one is a little bit better but the shoulder seam doesn't fit perfectly and notice how the fabric poofs away from my arm. That means the sleeves are not fitting my arm very well:
This shirt is almost spot on. The shoulder seam fits nicely but there is too much fabric on the sleeves so it poofs out a little bit (size small).
This is perfect the seam fits my shoulder and there is no poofing out around my bicep(small as well).
The following is how to get the arm length correct on dress shirts:
Notice how this is past the hinge of my wrist and is billowy and is stacking some. This fits
really poorly:
This is how a sleeve should look. It stops right at the hinge of my wrist and is slim on my arm:
Overall Fit Examples:
How to Measure Yourself - for guys
Sleeve measurement:
1. you will need an existing jacket that fits well (if the sleeves are too long/short you will need to accomodate this adjustment in the measurement)
2. hang the jacket on a hanger so it is draping as naturally as possible (pics show measurement on table but I dont recommend this if you haven't done this before)
3. start measurement at the top of sleevehead
4. go all the way down to bottom along the longest route
5. to keep it in perspective, an average person up to 5'6 might have a 22-23" sleeve. 5'7-5'10" can range from 23"-25". 5'11" and taller can range from 25" - 27"
Shoulder Measurements:
Shoulder measurements seem to be tricky, so hopefully this helps. Measurement would be "seam to seam" on a well fitting shirt (key here is WELL fitting, not too narrow or wide). The measurement is taken "bone to bone", and for most guys their shoulders will measure anywhere in the range of 15" - 18" across the front, depending on your height and build
The back shoulder is done the same as the front...generally the back shoulder is .5" - 1" wider than the front, for reference. Some guys can measure the same as the front, but it's more common for the back to be slightly wider. If you cannot get an accurate back measurement, the front can be used to proportionately guesstimate the back, by adding 1" to the front.
measurement guide from
http://www.thickasthievesla.com/selfMeasure.html
Where to get clothes:
Cheap-ish places to get clothes:
Banana Republic Outlet - Usually significantly cheaper than the regular BR store.
Express - on sale which happens all the time also if you sign up for their emails / mail they send lots of coupons.
Forever21 - now has men's clothes too but not at all locations.
Gap - cheap basics
H&M - not in every state and no online store.
Nordstrom Rack.
Saks Off-Fifth Avenue - Some things are still expensive some aren't you just have to look around
Zara - cheapish good clothes but only in a few places and doesn't have an online store.
Other Places:
American Apparel - plain clothes but fit tall and skinny people rather well.
Banana Republic - conservative / office wear
BCBG - women's
Bluefly.com - online only sells slightly discounted designer clothes.
Brooks Brothers (brooksbrothers.com) - spendy but classic and well-made suits and office wear. Watch for sales unless you have texas$
Gilt - Designer clothes for sale - online.
Guess
London Fog - good coats.
Macy's
Modista.com - great way to search for shoes and handbags
Nordstrom's
Threadless - online tshirts place with varying designs
Topman - rather good clothes that fit skinny guys. IMO their website doesn't do the place justice
United Colors of Bennetton - More prep/dressy with very fitted shirts.
Urban Outfitters - great place for skinny guys but a bit pricey - check their clearance section.
Van Huesen - mostly dress shirts
Yesstyle.com - Sells asian version of lots of designer stuff but word is clothing build quality is only ok. Make sure to check the size chart before ordering from here.
Place to find coupons for ordering online - http://www.retailmenot.com/
If anyone thinks part of this OP is wrong or if something should be added please let me know and I will try and change it.
Incomplete section describing various styles and fashion genres with some pictures:
So this is what I have so far if anyone wants to help find pictures and fill out descriptions.
NOTE: I found a good number of pictures but they are hosted at a site that doesn't allow direct linking so you will have to RIGHT CLICK -> copy link address and paste it to view the links.
I'm sure I've forgotten some other style genres so I NEED HELP adding more and finding more pictures.
Prep- This style usually contains lots of polos, plain dress shirts, sweater vests, boat shoes.
Semi Prep - A step away from prep with less polos and more dress shirts with 'flare' such as pockets and epaulets. I would consider this more casual. I'm not sure this is really a category.
Urban - Hoodies with lots of colors or loud patterns, very colorful sneakers, large design tshirts.
Hipster - very skinny jeans with lots of tapering at the ankle, ironic shirts, wayfayers, chucks
Retro - This has a lot of crossover with hipster. Very self explanatory people dressing in styles of previous generations. A lot of the popular styles pertain to 1920s-50s workers.
Runway/Designer - The crazy clothing that designers make but almost no one ever wears. This is not really meant to be worn. This is more of an art or muse for clothing people actually wear.
Try sitting down in this thing without flashing everyone >_>
Other-
Punk - generally lots of black, spiked belts/chokers, crazy spiked or shaved head
DISCUSS NOW!
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I wish I had red hair like that guy at the top. It'd make all the earth tones i wear way less boring.
Those pants are way to tight. The only purpose for that suit is to take pictures and never be use again.
seriously. it looks like a slight breeze could come by and blow him off his tiny little stick legs
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http://www.canadiandesignresource.ca/officialgallery/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/skipper-cap-wildhagen-canada.jpg
Bad idea?
Goddamn is that thing hideous.
So I just ordered the thick as thieves suit. Hopefully it will be here in about a month.
All you nay-sayers can either come up with some better pictures and a better OP or fuck right the hell off.
Edit: Yeah. Loren is right about that suit. The pants are either too tight, fit poorly, or poorly made if its distorting like that.
Now generally, I bias towards less slim and skinny fitting pants than CC, but I think you can find a better picture of a guy in a slim cut suit than that.
why does the guy on that website look like he just shit himself?
hahahahaha
Uh no those are LL bean water proof boots: http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=35487&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=503389&feat=503389-tn&cat4=503383
heres a hot tip: unless you are at risk of hypothermia, or at a sporting event, 99.9% of people should not wear hats period
He's shitting himself in smug satisfaction for wearing a better suit than you.
Don't be a hat...er.
Those are ducks.
And yes, ducks are cool. In the classic sort of way. But only if you are in a relatively rural area/doing some camping; not walking down Michigan Avenue. For that get regular shoes or less obvious boots.
That hat is terrible. Most hats are terrible. Except on girls.
I like the OP and people should shut up unless they want to take the time to make one. Of course opinions will differ about styles and such but no need to insult CommieCow.
I think Timbuk2 messenger bags are played out and I'm tired of seeing them (though I know they are well made and popular for a reason).
I say this because I did a rough measurement of my head about a year ago and I believe my head had about a two foot circumference.
So, obviously I have trouble finding beanies/hats and glasses that fit.
What I want now is a beanie and/or hat, but usually they sit too high on my head, don't fit my head, don't cover my ears, or barely cover them.
I was just wondering if people could just toss out a couple suggestions for brands/retailers, I wouldn't even mind a hat/beanie with ear flaps, something that keeps my head warm and doesn't look like shit. I've been wearing hoods all my life and I'm getting sick of it.
It's a G-Man on casual friday.
Yes, I fall into the "virtual planetoid" category, since I take a 7&5/8th hat.
My main advice is, "one size fits all" hats are a god damn lie. You'll want to look for hats that at a minimum come in the S-XL range, or better, come in actual hat sizes like the link I posted gives.
Question for future personal reference: are there any places with a good range of knitted waistcoats (as in patterns and things)? I haven't found any decent ranges online or in any shops around here, so maybe I should just rent someone's grandma for the day.
On the plus side I got this bag for $45. I wish it were bigger but no complaints otherwise.
I am considering getting these boots 'cause they'd be half price. They're uglier in person than I expected though.
Edit: that suit is pretty bad
The President of France.
Why do you even post in this thread?
These guys?
I have never seen ethugs giving good fashion advice in these threads.
And look how well things turned out for them.
I'm assuming it's okay to wear my black peacoat with black slim fit jeans?