Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
baby's are in hell because they have not yet been baptised so they suffer in the same way that virtuous pagans do in the outter limits of hell, where the only punishment is the lack of God's light and the lack of God's love
unbaptized babies go to purgatory
or they would if the pope hadn't retconned it
This may have already been said, but in Dante's Inferno they go to Limbo, which is a division of Hell.
If you are in Purgatory, that means you have a chance of getting into heaven.
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
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Either way, its further evidence that no one that made that game read the story. They were too busy doing front side fakie fakies off of the grand canyon.
BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
edited October 2009
I've read so many posts of such a batshit, bugfuck nature about this Modern Warfare Server Thing that it's hard to know where to begin. If you are angry at this break from tradition, and if you feel betrayed by these eleventh hour revelations, these are both situated well within the reasonable and comport (by and large) to the known. Do not buy it. Your platform of choice is the most open, universal digital venue on the planet. A suitor will be along presently.
It's not cherry-picking to say that the notion of Microsoft somehow being involved runs deep. You could be charitable and say they mean Infinity Ward was infected somehow by Microsoft's peer to peer vision, but that's not what they're saying. They're talking about literal collusion to bring about the downfall of the PC. Even though Modern Warfare 2 is launching on Steam, leverages Steamworks, and grants Steam Achievements.
Some of the rage is channeled semi-constructively into (not a boycott, per se, but) a redirection of funds from Modern Warfare 2 over to Battlefield 2: Bad Company - a notion that has been cannily seized by the would-be recipient. Battlefield 2 is going to be pretty good, so why not buy it - but let's pause for a moment and really absorb the idea that PC gamers are rallying around a DICE console port in their zeal. Nevermind the fact that you can't host your own Battlefield 2 servers, and that having a dedicated server for the game involves renting it from one of their partners. Maybe they didn't read the FAQ?
As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:
- There is no piracy.
- To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn't, it's your fault.
- If you try to protect your game, we'll steal it as a matter of principle.
It's like, who wouldn't want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It'll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.
But man, the guys making this game just seem to want controversy a little too much.
Dead Space they had the killing babies.
The Godfather II you were given a mission to kill Fidel Castro, and that game had some of the unsettling violence I've ever seen in a video game.
And now with Dante's Inferno, they've already involved themselves in encouraging sexual harrassment, possible check fraud, and now the killing of more babies.
I've read so many posts of such a batshit, bugfuck nature about this Modern Warfare Server Thing that it's hard to know where to begin. If you are angry at this break from tradition, and if you feel betrayed by these eleventh hour revelations, these are both situated well within the reasonable and comport (by and large) to the known. Do not buy it. Your platform of choice is the most open, universal digital venue on the planet. A suitor will be along presently.
It's not cherry-picking to say that the notion of Microsoft somehow being involved runs deep. You could be charitable and say they mean Infinity Ward was infected somehow by Microsoft's peer to peer vision, but that's not what they're saying. They're talking about literal collusion to bring about the downfall of the PC. Even though Modern Warfare 2 is launching on Steam, leverages Steamworks, and grants Steam Achievements.
Some of the rage is channeled semi-constructively into (not a boycott, per se, but) a redirection of funds from Modern Warfare 2 over to Battlefield 2: Bad Company - a notion that has been cannily seized by the would-be recipient. Battlefield 2 is going to be pretty good, so why not buy it - but let's pause for a moment and really absorb the idea that PC gamers are rallying around a DICE console port in their zeal. Nevermind the fact that you can't host your own Battlefield 2 servers, and that having a dedicated server for the game involves renting it from one of their partners. Maybe they didn't read the FAQ?
As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:
- There is no piracy.
- To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn't, it's your fault.
- If you try to protect your game, we'll steal it as a matter of principle.
It's like, who wouldn't want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It'll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.
I love Tycho. Also, PC gaming is dead.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I've read so many posts of such a batshit, bugfuck nature about this Modern Warfare Server Thing that it's hard to know where to begin. If you are angry at this break from tradition, and if you feel betrayed by these eleventh hour revelations, these are both situated well within the reasonable and comport (by and large) to the known. Do not buy it. Your platform of choice is the most open, universal digital venue on the planet. A suitor will be along presently.
It's not cherry-picking to say that the notion of Microsoft somehow being involved runs deep. You could be charitable and say they mean Infinity Ward was infected somehow by Microsoft's peer to peer vision, but that's not what they're saying. They're talking about literal collusion to bring about the downfall of the PC. Even though Modern Warfare 2 is launching on Steam, leverages Steamworks, and grants Steam Achievements.
Some of the rage is channeled semi-constructively into (not a boycott, per se, but) a redirection of funds from Modern Warfare 2 over to Battlefield 2: Bad Company - a notion that has been cannily seized by the would-be recipient. Battlefield 2 is going to be pretty good, so why not buy it - but let's pause for a moment and really absorb the idea that PC gamers are rallying around a DICE console port in their zeal. Nevermind the fact that you can't host your own Battlefield 2 servers, and that having a dedicated server for the game involves renting it from one of their partners. Maybe they didn't read the FAQ?
As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:
- There is no piracy.
- To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn't, it's your fault.
- If you try to protect your game, we'll steal it as a matter of principle.
It's like, who wouldn't want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It'll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.
But man, the guys making this game just seem to want controversy a little too much.
Dead Space they had the killing babies.
The Godfather II you were given a mission to kill Fidel Castro, and that game had some of the unsettling violence I've ever seen in a video game.
And now with Dante's Inferno, they've already involved themselves in encouraging sexual harrassment, possible check fraud, and now the killing of more babies.
sounds like the only baby here is you. 8-)
Let it be said that I don't actually have a problem with any of these, other than some of the more gruesome kills in The Godfather II.
You shoved the fat end of a baseball bat into someone's mouth and then held the back of their head and rammed them into the ground
I've read so many posts of such a batshit, bugfuck nature about this Modern Warfare Server Thing that it's hard to know where to begin. If you are angry at this break from tradition, and if you feel betrayed by these eleventh hour revelations, these are both situated well within the reasonable and comport (by and large) to the known. Do not buy it. Your platform of choice is the most open, universal digital venue on the planet. A suitor will be along presently.
It's not cherry-picking to say that the notion of Microsoft somehow being involved runs deep. You could be charitable and say they mean Infinity Ward was infected somehow by Microsoft's peer to peer vision, but that's not what they're saying. They're talking about literal collusion to bring about the downfall of the PC. Even though Modern Warfare 2 is launching on Steam, leverages Steamworks, and grants Steam Achievements.
Some of the rage is channeled semi-constructively into (not a boycott, per se, but) a redirection of funds from Modern Warfare 2 over to Battlefield 2: Bad Company - a notion that has been cannily seized by the would-be recipient. Battlefield 2 is going to be pretty good, so why not buy it - but let's pause for a moment and really absorb the idea that PC gamers are rallying around a DICE console port in their zeal. Nevermind the fact that you can't host your own Battlefield 2 servers, and that having a dedicated server for the game involves renting it from one of their partners. Maybe they didn't read the FAQ?
As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:
- There is no piracy.
- To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn't, it's your fault.
- If you try to protect your game, we'll steal it as a matter of principle.
It's like, who wouldn't want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It'll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.
This made me chuckle.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
In what way exactly does pc gaming need to become like another console other than stopping people from stealing shit.
I think a lot of people would be happy if they didn't need to invest several hours of research to know if their family computer will actually run the $60 game they just bought at Best Buy.
In what way exactly does pc gaming need to become like another console other than stopping people from stealing shit.
I think a lot of people would be happy if they didn't need to invest several hours of research to know if their family computer will actually run the $60 game they just bought at Best Buy.
Yeah that is a problem.
But it requires Best Buy and people who shop at Best Buy to give a shit about vidja games on the computer I guess that's never gonna happen.
I was thinking more on the software side. If you read the newspost Tycho isn't condemning the PC gaming and it's strengths. He's saying that it's becoming more niche and that if you're someone who is passionate about things like having openness and independent content you should get used to huge commercial release not being for you.
In what way exactly does pc gaming need to become like another console other than stopping people from stealing shit.
I think a lot of people would be happy if they didn't need to invest several hours of research to know if their family computer will actually run the $60 game they just bought at Best Buy.
Definitely. It's no coincidence that Blizzard a) is really popular and b) makes sure that you can run their games on your fucking toaster if need be.
He basically says "If you don't like it, don't buy it because something else will come along"
Well I don't want to boycott it. The game I want is Modern warfare 2. And I am just slightly disappointed in a thing they did.
Still gonna get it though., I guess he was talking to the more vitriolic people
I think it's also that publishers and developers have every incentive not to make things for hardcore PC gamers, or at least not to cater to them first. In a closed console system it's easier to control piracy and optimize for just two systems instead of the myriad of PC configurations out there. Developers have also realized that they since they're now the only ones with control over content, they can start charging for what used to be free.
I think it's that last point that has most of these die-hard fans up in arms.
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
He is speaking specifically about people who are having an absurd emotional reaction to the news. In the same paragraph he gives some consolation by calling the pc the most open and pervasive platform on the planet and that its audience will be continued to be served by others in the way they have previously found customary.
Then he talks at length about insane nutjobs who pirate shit as some form of bullshit principle. Which are motherfucking pervasive.
He isn't talking about people who are reasonable and are simply not going to buy the game. You read that shit in there yourself.
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If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
Haha
That's hilarious
That's exactly what crazy PC gamers sound like
Your intention was satire, correct?
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
Haha
That's hilarious
That's exactly what crazy PC gamers sound like
Your intention was satire, correct?
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
Haha
That's hilarious
That's exactly what crazy PC gamers sound like
Your intention was satire, correct?
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This may have already been said, but in Dante's Inferno they go to Limbo, which is a division of Hell.
If you are in Purgatory, that means you have a chance of getting into heaven.
you should have to hookshot down the legs of Lucifer
sounds like the only baby here is you. 8-)
I love Tycho. Also, PC gaming is dead.
ahahhahah
Let it be said that I don't actually have a problem with any of these, other than some of the more gruesome kills in The Godfather II.
You shoved the fat end of a baseball bat into someone's mouth and then held the back of their head and rammed them into the ground
This made me chuckle.
edit: the medical area I think? I haven't played it in a while
You see a dude get straight up murdered by one.
From the last page:
Also I wouldn't say PC gaming is dead or screw PC gaming or anything, but if this is the first step to it becoming more like another console, cool.
that's dumb
I think a lot of people would be happy if they didn't need to invest several hours of research to know if their family computer will actually run the $60 game they just bought at Best Buy.
Yeah that is a problem.
But it requires Best Buy and people who shop at Best Buy to give a shit about vidja games on the computer I guess that's never gonna happen.
I was thinking more on the software side. If you read the newspost Tycho isn't condemning the PC gaming and it's strengths. He's saying that it's becoming more niche and that if you're someone who is passionate about things like having openness and independent content you should get used to huge commercial release not being for you.
Definitely. It's no coincidence that Blizzard a) is really popular and b) makes sure that you can run their games on your fucking toaster if need be.
Oh my God, Geek, I haven't thought about that commercial in ages.
The English Major in me is spitting up, positively wretching blood.
The rest of me isn't totally blown away by that game-play footage so I think I'll go ahead and pass on this one.
Well I don't want to boycott it. The game I want is Modern warfare 2. And I am just slightly disappointed in a thing they did.
Still gonna get it though., I guess he was talking to the more vitriolic people
I think it's also that publishers and developers have every incentive not to make things for hardcore PC gamers, or at least not to cater to them first. In a closed console system it's easier to control piracy and optimize for just two systems instead of the myriad of PC configurations out there. Developers have also realized that they since they're now the only ones with control over content, they can start charging for what used to be free.
I think it's that last point that has most of these die-hard fans up in arms.
If you don't like the lack of dedicated servers in MW2 you are an idiot. Therefore, if you're avoiding the game at all, you are avoiding it because you are filled with a sense of rage and betrayal instead of for any rational reason, like a desire not to spend your money on things that aren't fun. In fact, you're so very dumb that you would probably buy it anyway if I weren't here to remind you not to spend your money on things you don't like.
I will now go on for a few more paragraphs about how completely idiotic "you guys" are, and about how "they" (interchangeable with "you," neither of which are defined except as "people less blisteringly intelligent than the author") are really quite likely to douse themselves in gasoline because they just can't comprehend a world in which IW doesn't offer dedicated servers.
YOU'VE ACTIVATED HIS TRAP CARD
He is speaking specifically about people who are having an absurd emotional reaction to the news. In the same paragraph he gives some consolation by calling the pc the most open and pervasive platform on the planet and that its audience will be continued to be served by others in the way they have previously found customary.
Then he talks at length about insane nutjobs who pirate shit as some form of bullshit principle. Which are motherfucking pervasive.
He isn't talking about people who are reasonable and are simply not going to buy the game. You read that shit in there yourself.
It's a classic.
oh shit, we got a live one
He actually literally was crazy.
He later got medicine to help his condition and apologized about what he said.
That's hilarious
That's exactly what crazy PC gamers sound like
Your intention was satire, correct?
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