Assassin's Creed II - Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

Klyka

Caedere wrote: »

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Having just beaten it, I think this game/series might have one of the most awesome stories ever.

Just be warned that it is EXTREMELY cliffhanger-y, like the first.

Annnd crap like that means I'm out. :x Unmarked spoilers discussing ending make me sad.

I don't see a spoiler.

All I see is someone saying that the second game in a trilogy has a cliffhanger ending.

ghost_master2000

Caedere wrote: »

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Having just beaten it, I think this game/series might have one of the most awesome stories ever.

Just be warned that it is EXTREMELY cliffhanger-y, like the first.

Annnd crap like that means I'm out. :x Unmarked spoilers discussing ending make me sad.

I wouldn't really consider calling it cliffhanger-y a spoiler. I've only just finished memory section 5 and I've got over 7 hours into this game. It seems like with every hour of gameplay I love this game more and more. IT's so fantastic.

It's like the first Assassins Creed had a lovechild with GTA and Prince of Persia.

David_T

People having trouble with the fighting should definately go check out the villa tutorials. I totally ignored it, only just realising now that it not only opens up new moves, it also teaches you how to handle the individual types of opponent.

Also finished the game and... yowza.

So do we think AC3 will be primarily set in the future? Maybe jumping back in time will be the Desmond sequences of that one and the rest is all designing a giant missile to shank the sun.

Big Classy

Just used the flying machine and got the gun. Sweet. Also, spent most of my time trying to figure the Truth puzzles out. Have only 3 more left to find and the other 17 have been decoded. Sweet. I think I understand the entire thing now.
obvious spoilers are spoilered. Only click if you're done with the game or don't really give a shit.

Adam and Eve M I RITE!? Can't be that can it? Seems to obvious. Even with the whole Moon plot and aliens.

I seriously spend far too much time doing random shit. Easily put in over 20 hours and have about 4 sequences left to run through. The side missions, assassinations in particular are like full-on missions complete with micro story. Hell, everything seems to tie in to the main plot in mind-blowing met-plot.

Also, charging into guards stood at the edge of a bank and tackling them results in them being pushed into the water. But you don't fall in, oh no. You just dust yourself off and walk away. All badass like.

Torso Boy

Caedere wrote: »

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Having just beaten it, I think this game/series might have one of the most awesome stories ever.

Just be warned that it is EXTREMELY cliffhanger-y, like the first.

Annnd crap like that means I'm out. :x Unmarked spoilers discussing ending make me sad.

If that's what you consider a spoiler, why come into the thread at all? Did you get angry when someone mentioned that there's betrayal in a GTA game?

randombattle

Torso Boy wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Having just beaten it, I think this game/series might have one of the most awesome stories ever.

Just be warned that it is EXTREMELY cliffhanger-y, like the first.

Annnd crap like that means I'm out. :x Unmarked spoilers discussing ending make me sad.

If that's what you consider an ending spoiler, why come into the thread at all? Did you get angry when someone mentioned that there's betrayal in a GTA game?

I don't think it's really a huge cliffhanger. At least not as much as the first. More like mass effect where it wraps up the stuff brought up but theres still more to be done.

Big Classy

Someone help me out here. Only click the spoiler if you've flown the flying device thing. The confusion regards someone you meet earlier than that but for crying out loud, don't ruin it for yourself.

Who the fuck is Maria? I'm assuming she was the Templar chick that stood in Sables' stead in AC1, the only target Altair doesn't kill or harm.... much. But that makes little sense since you don't get any inkling of romance between them. Do you even meet her before? And I get the baby thing, that shits' obvious.

Fatty McBeardo

Torso Boy wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

EliteBattleman wrote: »

Having just beaten it, I think this game/series might have one of the most awesome stories ever.

Just be warned that it is EXTREMELY cliffhanger-y, like the first.

Annnd crap like that means I'm out. :x Unmarked spoilers discussing ending make me sad.

If that's what you consider a spoiler, why come into the thread at all? Did you get angry when someone mentioned that there's betrayal in a GTA game?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

I don't see how saying that AC2 ends in a cliffhanger is a spoiler. If anything I'd say it was to be expected. If you're that sensitive about plot details then definitely avoid the thread entirely until you're done with the game.

OmonRa

Big Isy wrote: »

Someone help me out here. Only click the spoiler if you've flown the flying device thing. The confusion regards someone you meet earlier than that but for crying out loud, don't ruin it for yourself.

Who the fuck is Maria? I'm assuming she was the Templar chick that stood in Sables' stead in AC1, the only target Altair doesn't kill or harm.... much. But that makes little sense since you don't get any inkling of romance between them. Do you even meet her before? And I get the baby thing, that shits' obvious.

The scene in AC2 takes place after Bloodlines, which is all about Altair and Maria. Also there's some discussion of Maria -- and even Adha in translated codex pages. You've been reading them, right?

Big Classy

OmonRa wrote: »

Big Isy wrote: »

Someone help me out here. Only click the spoiler if you've flown the flying device thing. The confusion regards someone you meet earlier than that but for crying out loud, don't ruin it for yourself.

Who the fuck is Maria? I'm assuming she was the Templar chick that stood in Sables' stead in AC1, the only target Altair doesn't kill or harm.... much. But that makes little sense since you don't get any inkling of romance between them. Do you even meet her before? And I get the baby thing, that shits' obvious.

The scene in AC2 takes place after Bloodlines, which is all about Altair and Maria. Also there's some discussion of Maria -- and even Adha in translated codex pages. You've been reading them, right?

Yeah I read about Adha, no idea what or who that is. I've yet to come across mention of Maria in name.though there is talk of a lady whom I assumed was her. Bloodlines is the PSP version right>? In which case, fuck that shit.

EliteBattleman

David_T wrote: »

People having trouble with the fighting should definately go check out the villa tutorials. I totally ignored it, only just realising now that it not only opens up new moves, it also teaches you how to handle the individual types of opponent.

Also finished the game and... yowza.

So do we think AC3 will be primarily set in the future? Maybe jumping back in time will be the Desmond sequences of that one and the rest is all designing a giant missile to shank the sun.

It was heavily implied that AC3 will involve them searching for "the temples" (super-awesome fallout shelters) so they can survive John Cusack's 2012 acting. There was a line something like "we'll have to look though history to find clues about their location."

I'm guessing it'll be half animus, half Desmond.

edit: Actually, I'm thinking it'll be entirely Desmond, only with about half of it being crazy hallucino-Desmond controlling someone else.

Shadowfire

Tomanta wrote: »

randombattle wrote: »

Klyka wrote: »

I thought this time there are enemies you can "counter" but he will only dodge the attack and create an opening instead of instantly killing them?

Yeah at the earlier parts of the game one counter and whatnot will kill anyone but once you get to the better guards with captains and heavily armored dudes you cant just counter or combo kill everyone.

A new, and easy way to kill folk: if you have certain weapons (swords, daggers... not hidden blade, no idea why not) you can grab people and slit their throat. Instead of tossing them to the ground and stabbing them. Of course some enemies resist being grabbed. One improvement I really like is that there is a lot of variety in how you can kill someone in combat, not just the animations but also the tactics involved.

My favorite is hiring mercenaries and just walking through combat hidden-blading people from behind.

You can use any weapon to kill them from behind... the sword animation is kind of funny though. You hold out the sword, and it just kind of glides through them.

Also, disarming people and killing them with their own weapons? Shit never gets old.

Big Classy

Shadowfire wrote: »

Tomanta wrote: »

randombattle wrote: »

Klyka wrote: »

I thought this time there are enemies you can "counter" but he will only dodge the attack and create an opening instead of instantly killing them?

Yeah at the earlier parts of the game one counter and whatnot will kill anyone but once you get to the better guards with captains and heavily armored dudes you cant just counter or combo kill everyone.

A new, and easy way to kill folk: if you have certain weapons (swords, daggers... not hidden blade, no idea why not) you can grab people and slit their throat. Instead of tossing them to the ground and stabbing them. Of course some enemies resist being grabbed. One improvement I really like is that there is a lot of variety in how you can kill someone in combat, not just the animations but also the tactics involved.

My favorite is hiring mercenaries and just walking through combat hidden-blading people from behind.

You can use any weapon to kill them from behind... the sword animation is kind of funny though. You hold out the sword, and it just kind of glides through them.

Also, disarming people and killing them with their own weapons? Shit never gets old.

Do it with a long spear, oh man. They slide down.

desc

So what you guys are saying is that if I straight up loved AC1, then I should stop being stupid and go buy this today?

MarioG

desc wrote: »

So what you guys are saying is that if I straight up loved AC1, then I should stop being stupid and go buy this today?

Yes. Yes times infinity.

Big Classy

Hey! Found the sixth seal. sweet. now for mad lootz.

UEAKCrash

MarioG wrote: »

desc wrote: »

So what you guys are saying is that if I straight up loved AC1, then I should stop being stupid and go buy this today?

Yes. Yes times infinity.

100% yes. They fixed pretty much every annoyance I had with the original, and I loved that game.

desc

Okay, driving to buy it in 10 minutes.

Local H Jay

god damn the hammer and axes have some brutal ass takedowns when countering
the violence is much more pleasing this time around

also lol at accidently stabbing a random guard along with my last assassination since i forgot about the two blades.

Fatty McBeardo

I double bladed a couple of those fucking minstrels.

Yes.

By the way their songs are far less annoying if you have the speech set to Italian.

Lucascraft

The minstrels are hardly a problem anyway. I just rob them and push them down. Then they run away.

UEAKCrash

Lucascraft wrote: »

The minstrels are hardly a problem anyway. I just rob them and push them down. Then they run away.

Exactly.

Or just rob them, that seems to take care of it.

My favorite is the full on flying tackle, though. It sends a nice message to the rest.

I bet the poison would be funny too.

Caedere

So, Truth File 10 brings me slinking back in here.

It's the one on the building out in Tuscany. I have some questions.

When you highlight the moon, it gives what appears to be a pigpen cipher, but I'm beating my head against a wall trying to figure out the key. It doesn't correspond to the standard Freemason one, and I wanted to know if anyone had translated it yet.

Big Classy

Caedere wrote: »

So, Truth File 10 brings me slinking back in here.

It's the one on the building out in Tuscany. I have some questions.

When you highlight the moon, it gives what appears to be a pigpen cipher, but I'm beating my head against a wall trying to figure out the key. It doesn't correspond to the standard Freemason one, and I wanted to know if anyone had translated it yet.

Is it the one titled 'Apollo'?

Highlight off the moon, the spacecraft will be there

On my way back to activate the final seal and get the you-know-what I decided to check some new weapons out. It was

Altairs sword

Talk about matching set!

Caedere

Big Isy wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

So, Truth File 10 brings me slinking back in here.

It's the one on the building out in Tuscany. I have some questions.

When you highlight the moon, it gives what appears to be a pigpen cipher, but I'm beating my head against a wall trying to figure out the key. It doesn't correspond to the standard Freemason one, and I wanted to know if anyone had translated it yet.

Is it the one titled 'Apollo'?

Highlight off the moon, the spacecraft will be there

On my way back to activate the final seal and get the you-know-what I decided to check some new weapons out. It was

Altairs sword

Talk about matching set!

Nono, please read what my spoiler actually says.

I know how to get to the next part - I'm asking for help with decoding the message.

tehkensai

Caedere wrote: »

Big Isy wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

So, Truth File 10 brings me slinking back in here.

It's the one on the building out in Tuscany. I have some questions.

When you highlight the moon, it gives what appears to be a pigpen cipher, but I'm beating my head against a wall trying to figure out the key. It doesn't correspond to the standard Freemason one, and I wanted to know if anyone had translated it yet.

Is it the one titled 'Apollo'?

Highlight off the moon, the spacecraft will be there

On my way back to activate the final seal and get the you-know-what I decided to check some new weapons out. It was

Altairs sword

Talk about matching set!

Nono, please read what my spoiler actually says.

I know how to get to the next part - I'm asking for help with decoding the message.

here you go:

Six=1

Big Classy

So is the thing you get for collecting the assassin seals supposed to be black?

I'm thinking it has something to do with dying the clothes but someone mentioned you can't do it with Altairs armor?

-Loki-

I have to admit, I'm pretty pleased with the quality of the Ezio figure in the White edition. It's not up to real collector level stuff, but it's not bad for something that was like an extra $10.

randombattle

tehkensai wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

Big Isy wrote: »

Caedere wrote: »

So, Truth File 10 brings me slinking back in here.

It's the one on the building out in Tuscany. I have some questions.

When you highlight the moon, it gives what appears to be a pigpen cipher, but I'm beating my head against a wall trying to figure out the key. It doesn't correspond to the standard Freemason one, and I wanted to know if anyone had translated it yet.

Is it the one titled 'Apollo'?

Highlight off the moon, the spacecraft will be there

On my way back to activate the final seal and get the you-know-what I decided to check some new weapons out. It was

Altairs sword

Talk about matching set!

Nono, please read what my spoiler actually says.

I know how to get to the next part - I'm asking for help with decoding the message.

here you go:

Six=1

As a tip all of those wheel puzzles

are already aligned to 1. So when you start the puzzle the symbol on 1 means 1, ect.

DeMoN

kildy wrote: »

ChaosHat wrote: »

So, I'm stuck here, some spoilers. I guess read if you finished it or whatever, or have completed past the first time they take you out of animus 2.0.

So you're in Acre as Altair and you have to follow this person, they escape into the tower and they want me to scale it. So I've made it to this balcony with this post with a lamp, but I can't get higher, it won't let me jump onto the lamp and there are no other handholds, help?

This part sucks. Run/leap at the tower wall, as you hit it, pull left/right whatever towards the beam and you'll fall at it and jump to it. Worst thing ever.

Wha, I just climbed, no fancy business.

You people do know that if you just hold the trigger and press X or A or whatever, without moving, you just jump straight up, right?

Shadowfire

Anyone have any problems with bugged sidequests? Trying to do Spear of Infidelity, but it seems like the guy just isn't spawning.

Torso Boy

-Loki- wrote: »

I have to admit, I'm pretty pleased with the quality of the Ezio figure in the White edition. It's not up to real collector level stuff, but it's not bad for something that was like an extra $10.

Shit, I'm in Canada, and it's $25 more. I don't think our currencies are far apart right now. $64.99 for the regular edition and $89.99 for the limited.

Joolander

Shadowfire wrote: »

Anyone have any problems with bugged sidequests? Trying to do Spear of Infidelity, but it seems like the guy just isn't spawning.

did you

look up on the city wall

??

Shadowfire

Joolander wrote: »

Shadowfire wrote: »

Anyone have any problems with bugged sidequests? Trying to do Spear of Infidelity, but it seems like the guy just isn't spawning.

did you

look up on the city wall

??

Yea.. I finally found him, but I had to quit the mission and reload it. Boooo.

Klyka

I just played this for like 6 hours and didn't even notice it was that late already.

This game is so good, it actually made me forget that there was an AC1 because it is BETTER THAN AC1 IN ALL REGARDS.

Even though some stuff is a bit weird, like Ezio being a fucking Freerunning genius from the start, you just feel at home if you played the first. Only that your home is now much prettier and bigger and has more stuff in it and your family will help you out and everyone is having a great time.

Shadowfire

Are there an infinite number of assassination and courier assignments? They don't ever seem to go away. :P

Foefaller

Shadowfire wrote: »

Are there an infinite number of assassination and courier assignments? They don't ever seem to go away. :P

There is, it's just that it is a lot.


Also, has anyone figured out how to get to the viewpoint on top of the Santa Maria Gloriosa Dei Frari in Venice?

Joolander

i hope not

but looking through the DNA it would seem that they do at some point run out

manwiththemachinegun

Awesome, awesome game. Every bit as good as promised.

Oh fuck, those symbol visions.

I'm betting right now, some sort of ancient human technological bunker? As in Adam and Eve *did* exist and were the only ones to make it to an advanced fallout shelter of an Atlantis type civilization? It certainly makes sense with what we're told in the first game.

"We don't create them Mr. Miles, we find them."

"From who?"

"From those who came before."

My favorite comedic moments,

VAGINA!

*Exasperated sigh* MOM.

And of course,

It's a me! Mario!

One quick question on the vision puzzles.

Do they need to be in order or something? Cause I just wasted ten minutes trying to get past the "These men CUT through their enemies" and I feel embarrassingly stuck. I'm assuming it's Arthur, Perseus, Samson (getting his hair cut) and two others, but I can't figure it out.

And if the game is to be believed about various conspiracies:

Fuckin everyone from FDR to Ghandi had pieces of Eden. And everyone from George Washington to Napoleon to Alexander the Great was involved on some level. Talk about, "nothing is true." I also like the stories of the other great assassins besides Altair, they sound like each could have their own game.

UnbreakableVow

I didn't get that "It's-a me, Mario!" quote.

Not as in I didn't understand it, I don't think I ever received it.