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edited March 2010 in Social Entropy++
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I want to be a Big Man(tm)!

Well, you’ve come to the right place! Here at Big Man(tm) Central we are keeping up with the cutting edge of exercise science to help YOU build muscle and lose weight! We can give you access to all the latest tips and tricks, plus expert advice from certified Big Men Big l, the wook, Bruce Lee and many more! Join our certified Big Man Program to track your weight and lifts.

Big Man PRs!

This is for all you’se who want to wrestle a bear or lift a truck. Let us know your best lifts and we'll post 'em for motivation and mockery.

psyck0 - Deadlift: 340 lbs
Sunday_Assassin - Rack Pull: 165 kg
hectorse - Squat: 285 lbs, Bench: 175 lbs, Press: 140 lbs, Deadlift: 335 lbs
Dachshund - Squat: 255 lbs, Bench: 165 lbs, Press: 120 lbs, Deadlift: 330 lbs, Powerclean: 195 lbs
big l - Squat: 405 lbs
the wook - Deadlift: 515 lbs, Front Squat: 245
celandine - Deadlift: 245 lbs

If you’re trying to lose weight, I’ll point you over to the Fitness Thread for excellent advice on cardio and diet.

Eating for a Big Man

If you wanna get Big, you gotta eat Big. If you’re a hard gainer and want to put on some pounds, a good rule of thumb is to eat as much as you think you should and then eat two more things, every meal. You’re aiming for about 500 excess calories a day. If you’re turning fat to muscle, try to consume as many calories as you’re burning every day. You should never be hungry!

Your calories should come from a good mix of protein, fat, and carbs. Get 1.5 grams of protein for every lb of lean muscle weight, minimum. 2 is better. Fat is perfectly healthy for you as long as it’s not trans. Carbs should definitely not be the majority of your calories, and they should all be complex carbs- whole grains, nuts, fruits and vegetables. Cut all juices and pop! The sugar in those is killing you!

All right, now how many types of curls should I be doing to be a Big Man?

Curls are for girls (no offense, ladies!). If you don’t know what you’re doing, start with Starting Strength or CFWF in the list below and check out the form videos farther down the page to learn the exercise. If you’ve never looked at your form before, watch these videos! I’ll bet you $50 you’re doing it wrong. There are some more intermediate and advanced workouts in the lift for when you get past the beginner stage, too.

Workout plans, from beginner to advanced:
Starting Strength ( Wiki)
Crossfit Witchita Falls PA Post
Texas Method
WestSidel
Wendler’s 5/3/1
Two Day Heavy Split

How to Bench Press
Learning to Bench Press (start here first!)

Dave Tate’s Six Week Bench Press Cure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh3t6T-nqP0&feature=player_embedded
How to squat

[url=http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Lifts#The_Squat[/url]Your first squats.[/url]

A fantastic how-to video; WATCH IT!
Low Bar Squats

How to Deadlift

An expert description of the Deadlift

Another great form video for you!
How to Military Press

Start by reading this and watching these videos!

Video 1
Video 2
How to Power Clean

Read this!

Watch this!! It is fantastic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEvAIEfkHs&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUmi2oqlvA&feature=player_embedded



Resources:
70sbig.com – New site with simple training methods and motivational words to help you lift the heaviest you can
Bodybuilding.com - Good forum and community for fitness
T-nation.com - While aimed at the 'sweet kegger party bra' crowd, it's still packed with tons of super useful information
Crossfit.com - Not for some people, CrossFit is still probably the toughest fitness program out there
Exrx.net - A fantastic resource, this is a huge database of animated .gifs that show correct form to various exercises
Fitday.com - The website can be slow and some people hate it but I like to use the software to maintain an overview of my general fitness level.
Elitefts.com - Another good strength and conditioning resource. Good articles.
NFS.org - Dietary supplement guide. Products in these lists are guaranteed to contain everything listed on their labels in the quantities listed. Supps are notorious for fucking you over this way, so buy from a good company.

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I want Christmas to come already so I can open my present with Starting Strength in it and start that shit.

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Last night my entire dinner consisted of mashed potatoes and noodles. Am I doing this right?

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Last night my entire dinner consisted of mashed potatoes and noodles. Am I doing this right?

    where the fuck is the dead animals

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I put my lifting and fitness on hold for a while for studying, but after christmas I'm coming back to it, full bore. I have no other distractions or priorities. This is it, time to get in the best fucking shape of my life.

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  • Sunday_AssassinSunday_Assassin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I disagree that T-nation is aimed at the 'sweet kegger party bra' people

    It's more for the guys who are overcompensating so much for their various deficiencies that they make lifting weights their entire lives.

    It's my favourite site.

    (65kg Press today hooray!)

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Last night my entire dinner consisted of mashed potatoes and noodles. Am I doing this right?

    where the fuck is the dead animals

    I'm broke D:

    Tonight I think I will have what is left of the blueberry muffin mini-wheats, dry. Maybe I will make some popcorn too.

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  • Brucelee41042Brucelee41042 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The OP is beautiful.

    It felt weird going to the gym yesterday and not coming out feeling like death. Also, I still haven't received a reply from elitefts on my programming questions.

    I'm sooo nervous about tomorrow. Since I'm testing my squat max, I think I might go ahead and test my bench max as well... since it's been awhile. Hell.... I might as well just do a mock meet and test my dead also, but that might be too much. We'll see.

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i like the op. I'm excited for the new year so I can reorganize and replan my weight training goals.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Last night my entire dinner consisted of mashed potatoes and noodles. Am I doing this right?

    where the fuck is the dead animals

    I'm broke D:

    Tonight I think I will have what is left of the blueberry muffin mini-wheats, dry. Maybe I will make some popcorn too.

    you're too broke to afford a lb of ground beef?

    or a can of chili?

    or even tuna?!

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  • Sunday_AssassinSunday_Assassin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If you want to underestimate your max dead, that's probably a swell idea.

    (bruce)

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    whenever i've tested my max i've only done two at a time.

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  • Brucelee41042Brucelee41042 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    whenever i've tested my max i've only done two at a time.

    Ya, but If I'm going to do a meet soon, I'm basically going to be doing a 3 lift max anyways.

    I'll get my friend to give me the commands (rack, press, blah blah). Just to see how things go. Again, I'll make sure to bring a camera so I can share the happiness/disappointment.

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Geebs61 wrote: »
    Last night my entire dinner consisted of mashed potatoes and noodles. Am I doing this right?

    where the fuck is the dead animals

    I'm broke D:

    Tonight I think I will have what is left of the blueberry muffin mini-wheats, dry. Maybe I will make some popcorn too.

    you're too broke to afford a lb of ground beef?

    or a can of chili?

    or even tuna?!

    Until I get paid at the end of the week, yes. I have $1.02 in my paypal account at the moment. All the rest of my money is spoken for.

    I used to lift weights religiously. I worked out almost 6 hours a day. When I quit I was benching 305, squatting 495(I think, recollection is a little fuzzy. It wasn't 500 but I was almost there) and the last time I deadlifted it was 360, and it tor all the callouses off the palm of my hand. I used to be a hoss, now I am a fatty fatty fat fat.

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  • big lbig l Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    OP is balling. Brucelee, you better film that shit. Are you planning on doing it meet-style, where you take three attempts, or just going in and figuring out your max whatever it takes? Personally, I usually plan on doing it meet-style, but I don't hesitate to give myself another attempt or two if I miss a rep because of something stupid or feel like I want to do another or whatever.

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  • Brucelee41042Brucelee41042 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    big l wrote: »
    OP is balling. Brucelee, you better film that shit. Are you planning on doing it meet-style, where you take three attempts, or just going in and figuring out your max whatever it takes? Personally, I usually plan on doing it meet-style, but I don't hesitate to give myself another attempt or two if I miss a rep because of something stupid or feel like I want to do another or whatever.

    Ya, I think I might. For squats I'm gonna try something like this:

    385 (Previous max)
    405
    Then just shoot for the moon on this one, depends how I feel. I REALLY want 425

    Bench (with a pause) i'll do:

    225
    235
    255

    Deads maybe:

    405
    425
    Go for broke

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Can someone help me out? I'm looking for the name of that beastly rugby player who has had his picture posted in one of the previous bigmen threads.

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  • psyck0psyck0 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Andrew Sheridan? sheridanDM1710_468x685.jpg

    6'5", 119 kg, bench 225kg, squat 275kg.

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    impressive, but I'm talking about the dude holding the ball in his left arm only, wearing a shirt, and his legs are like california redwoods

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    pudzianowski.jpg

    maybe?

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    yes! thank you dl. what is that dude's name?
    edit and thank you psyck0 for looking

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  • DryghtenDryghten Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    schalkburger.jpg

    HE IS THE BEASTLIEST OF RUGBY PLAYERS

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    A guy I know claims to have been squatting 600 pounds as a high school freshman. Is he a complete dirty liar or merely a dirty exaggerator? Is such a thing plausible?

    For reference's sake he's about 5'9'' and is a mound of golf playing pudge, although he's about 18 years removed from being in high school at all so I'm sure his physique has devolved.

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  • Brucelee41042Brucelee41042 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    yes! thank you dl. what is that dude's name?
    edit and thank you psyck0 for looking

    Mariusz Pudzianowski. 5 time Worlds Strongest Man winner. Recently fought in MMA. He plays rugby. Supposedly he is like a superstar over there in poland. He has a band, search for it on youtube, its hilarious. He was also on the polish version of dancing with the stars

    Culdra- I mean, its POSSIBLE...but prolly not. Even if he did, it was most likely waaaaaay above parallel. I doubt he had any idea how to do a full squat in high school. Unless he played football.... but even then, most highschool football coaches have no idea how to teach the squat.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Amazing OP!

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Culdra- I mean, its POSSIBLE...but prolly not. Even if he did, it was most likely waaaaaay above parallel. I doubt he had any idea how to do a full squat in high school. Unless he played football.... but even then, most highschool football coaches have no idea how to teach the squat.

    That's kinda what I thought. Great OP psyck0 BTW, I meant to say that before.

    This week off has been a beautiful thing. I hadn't had a week off in about 5 months and it's been nice, all shoveling snow and eating too many cookies. I'm back on the iron wagon next week which will be sweet because I feel great.

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  • Sunday_AssassinSunday_Assassin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Even though I'll be popping into the gym on Christmas Eve, I probably won't be testing any maxes, so I'm officially drawing a line under one whole year of training.

    (actually looking at it I'm still three sessions short of a full year, but fuck it, I deserve a break)

    Results!

    Bodyweight - 66kg --> 70kg (almost all of this came over the last few weeks, actually)

    Squat - 115kg (5kg down on target)
    Deadlift - 152.5kg (better than I'd hoped)
    Press - 65kg
    Bench Press - 85kgx5 (haven't bench pressed for a couple months. Picking it back up in the New Year)
    Chins - 35kg
    Dips - 50kgx2 (too uncomfortable to hang any more from the belt 8-))
    Power Clean - 80kg (form still sucks)

    I do have my numbers from Jan 09, but they're on my laptop, and I left that at work. They were all starter 5x5 numbers anyway, so don't really show actual progress.

    Good year. Missed maybe half a dozen sessions, and no real injuries. If only every part of my life was going so well :P

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Culdra- I mean, its POSSIBLE...but prolly not. Even if he did, it was most likely waaaaaay above parallel. I doubt he had any idea how to do a full squat in high school. Unless he played football.... but even then, most highschool football coaches have no idea how to teach the squat.

    That's kinda what I thought. Great OP psyck0 BTW, I meant to say that before.

    This week off has been a beautiful thing. I hadn't had a week off in about 5 months and it's been nice, all shoveling snow and eating too many cookies. I'm back on the iron wagon next week which will be sweet because I feel great.

    I knew a freshman who could squat like that. He even won a weightlifting competition at a football camp the summer before his sophomore year. They used those little level beeping mechanisms you attach to your thighs, and had a judge to assure that they did the full squat. I don't recall the exact weight he lifted, but he beat out every other player from 17 different schools. At 15 years old he was about 6.5 feet tall and weighed 325. That same year we had another guy on our team who was the same age win in the bench category, and we won the tug-o-war competition using the youngest guys from our school. To be honest that entire group of kids were freaks. They were all lifting heavier weight in their first week of training than the rest of us could after years of training.

    But our football coaches were former personal trainers.

    Tony(the squat winner) later went on to get a full ride to the College of the Siskiyous, but he died of a coke overdose the summer before his first term. Actually, he died on his birthday.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Last time I went to my gym, I saw that they had added a hex bar, what do people think of them for deadlifts? Is it worth switching to, or does it just mess up your form and muscle groups?

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  • SolventSolvent Econ-artist กรุงเทพมหานครRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ooooo, add me to OP as a member of the Bigman program.

    Current weight: 80kg
    Goal weight: 85kg

    Lift goals:
    Deadlift/Squat/Bench/Press, 200/160/120/80

    Current lifts (estimated):
    Deadlift/Squat/Bench/Press, 145/110/85/61

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Last time I went to my gym, I saw that they had added a hex bar, what do people think of them for deadlifts? Is it worth switching to, or does it just mess up your form and muscle groups?

    I don't know about anyone else, and I haven't lifted in a few years, but I preferred them over the standard bar for deads. I felt it was more comfortable, and I was getting a more even workout by being centered in the middle of the weight.

    I don't know what you crazy kids are into nowadays.

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  • DryghtenDryghten Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Okay, so I went to a nutrionist. I am 190 6'4" and pretty lean muscled. I asked her what to do in order to get to 220 as fast as possible. Her advice?

    6,000-8,000 calories a day. With that, I should also be drinking a protein shake (I went with Monster Milk) 4 times a day. And I should cut out long cardio (but she said she understands I need to keep doing sprintwork) from my workout routine.

    This will be interesting to see what happens.

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Back in high school I amped up my caloric intake unconsciously. I was working out a good amount of time per day, and a teenager. As such I was hungry all the time. I would stop by Burger King each day, and get a king sized double whopper meal(no mayo) with a coke, 5 rodeo cheeseburgers, large onion ring, and 6 piece chicken nuggets. Then eat it all as an afternoon snack. That was somewhere between 8,000-10,000 calories.

    It was all I could do to keep my weight at 205. This Chinese buffet by my house also worked out well. But I had to fill both sides of the styrofoam box, and close it as fast as I could. The employees there always got a kick out of it. That is the only restaurant that I went to often enough to be a regular, and have a "usual". But they tore it down, and it is a car wash now.

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  • SolventSolvent Econ-artist กรุงเทพมหานครRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dryghten wrote: »
    Okay, so I went to a nutrionist. I am 190 6'4" and pretty lean muscled. I asked her what to do in order to get to 220 as fast as possible. Her advice?

    6,000-8,000 calories a day. With that, I should also be drinking a protein shake (I went with Monster Milk) 4 times a day. And I should cut out long cardio (but she said she understands I need to keep doing sprintwork) from my workout routine.

    This will be interesting to see what happens.

    Wow. I would find it difficult to do that without eating large amounts of trash.

    I think I'm at around 4000 a day or a bit under at the moment. And even that requires a fair bit of effort, because I don't eat a lot of high-cal junk food (the bag I take to work is fairly large and is reserved mostly for food, which I constantly munch throughout the day. Yay for sedentary job).

    It seems 4000 is about maintenance for me, because I don't appear to be gaining or losing weight. So I'll need to push more food down to make it up to 85kg, but I'm happy to put that concern on the backburner for now.

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  • DryghtenDryghten Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I ate around 7,000 calories today.

    Two homemade large waffles, 5 eggs, two turkey/lettuce/cheese/tomato sandwhiches and protein shake 1, nuts + bagel w/ cream cheese, protein shake two, work out (upper body, weighed in at 193!), 2.5 steaks (fillet mignon), some bread, 3rd protein shake, ceasar salad. (I am missing something, but yeah when I entered it all in I was at around 6,800).

    I am about to explode. This is... fuck awful. Oh well, hopefully in a week I will get used to this kinda diet.

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  • Brucelee41042Brucelee41042 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm actually nervous about maxing today.

    I'm so stoopid

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Don't be nervous. Make other people nervous.

    Also, nice OP.

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  • HamurabiHamurabi MiamiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So just to clarify: in a "low-bar" squat, where the barbell is lower on your back and in a thumbless hold, it's okay to both lean your torso further forward and for your knees to come further out in front of your toes?

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  • Geebs61Geebs61 Ruiner PortlandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm actually nervous about maxing today.

    I'm so stoopid

    Whenever you feel nervous just yell out "BIG MAN! GONNA PUMP IRON!" That should shake away the butterflies. It also helps to listen to Running With the Devil by Van Halen.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Or The Final Countdown, by the immortal Kenny Loggins.

    What? It's a good song.

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  • big lbig l Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Hamurabi wrote: »
    So just to clarify: in a "low-bar" squat, where the barbell is lower on your back and in a thumbless hold, it's okay to both lean your torso further forward and for your knees to come further out in front of your toes?

    With the lower bar position, it is okay to lean forward more, but the knees should not go forward of your toes more than an inch or so. Bar positions and accompanying body positions go in a continuum - low bar = lean forward a bunch, no knees forward - high bar = both moderately - front squat = keep forward lean to a minimum, knees go pretty far forward. So you are half right.

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