the presentation looks amazing imo, if it really comes with a xeno-type storyline this will be brilliant. i dont see anywhere if Tetsuya Takahashi is involved though and even if he is... soma bringer was BAD, he might have lost his touch.
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I have a personal rule to never trust anyone with a gamer score over 10k to not be a silly goose, especially when it comes to video games NOT on an Xbox platform.
This particular goose needn't worry about getting his 1k on this game.
This is a strange generalization to make, ahem, you silly goose.
Perhaps I simply play a lot of games, already own two systems, and am somewhat dissappointed that a series that I enjoyed last generation is arriving on the one I don't own?
Oh, that's right, you aren't listening to me because of an arbitrary number.
I have a personal rule to never trust anyone with a gamer score over 10k to not be a silly goose, especially when it comes to video games NOT on an Xbox platform.
This particular goose needn't worry about getting his 1k on this game.
This is a strange generalization to make, ahem, you silly goose.
Perhaps I simply play a lot of games, already own two systems, and am somewhat dissappointed that a series that I enjoyed last generation is arriving on the one I don't own?
Oh, that's right, you aren't listening to me because of an arbitrary number.
Considering the history of said series the fact that it has another sequel at all is amazing. Besides Nintendo bought these guys like 3 years ago.
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It's sorta, well, it looks pretty generic, like a Rogue Galaxy + FF12 mishmash.
I hope that it isn't just generic jrpg that got renamed later on to tap to the fans of other xeno-games.
I don't quite think it's the case, because if it was a marketing coup it'd be a pretty silly marketing coup. I mean, let's face it, the xeno property as a whole isn't a commercial powerhouse. I'd be more easily inclined to think it's the other way round, and Takahashi disguised his next xeno-attempt as something else for a while to get the project greenlit.
As far as I know each successive game sold less than the previous one, which is actually pretty much inevitable for a serial. I still don't get why they made the episodes so tightly knit, surely they should have realized it'd have discouraged most new players from taking the story en-route. A serial's the kinda stunt you only pull if you can release the games at close intervals and for little cost, the .Hack way, not for blockbuster-budgeted games that get released over years.
But to give you an idea, the expensive PS2 Xenosaga 3 sold around 180'000 copies in japan, while on the other hand the much, much cheaper DS Endless Frontier sold around 150'000.
We decided to call it XENOBLADE to honor Mr. Tetsuya Takahashi who poured his soul into making this and who has been working on the XENO series.
o_O
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Hmmm.
I remember seeing those Monado screens which were generally totally ignored everywhere. It looked promising...although I think something about the camera needs fixing. I reeeeally hope there's a different camera angle in the final game, or something.
I really hope Soraya Saga's involved in this. While her mental well-being is....questionable....she has been responsible for the most interesting characters and stories in both Xenogears and Xenosaga (she is credited for Bart, Billy, Jr, Albedo, Ziggy, and so forth. She's also credited with Edgar and Sabin in FFVI).
Turns out she has a DA page, and has recently released her concept artwork for Titus 12, a defunct project that looked real interesting before she hastily removed the images from her official site.
It's some good stuff, and I would love to see this become an actual game someday (in which she says in her DA page that it's still a possibility).
We decided to call it XENOBLADE to honor Mr. Tetsuya Takahashi who poured his soul into making this and who has been working on the XENO series.
o_O
It's much better than trying to make it some sort of sequel or something. That would pretty much guarantee my apathy on the project.
Xenogears tried the George Lucas method of starting at chapter 5. That idea never got off the ground.
Xenosaga tried the "We're making a 6 game story arc epic!" plan. That plan cracked after the first game, completely shattered after the second, and only an act of God let them sweep up the pieces and glue together a finale.
Were they to try yet AGAIN... well I'm out. I'm too old to go through that crap again.
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I thought people had generally agreed long ago that the "chapter 5" in Xenogears signified not the idea of being the 5th game in a potential series, but that Fei's story in particular was the 5th chapter in the overall story which included several other stories throughout history and which are touched on within Xenogears' plot.
- "The world setting, story and other elements have no relation (to past Xeno games). It's a completely new title." - Xenoblade director Tetsuya Takahashi
- Takahashi feels that past Monolith titles have focused on events and scenarios, and this development path was a dead end
- Xenoblade started off with the dev team examining the origins of the RPG genre, and creating a game that was simply fun
- Why does this game have 'Xeno' in the title? "I wanted to to have some sort of common point with the games I've made."
- "Xeno" has the meaning of "different nature" or "uniqueness"
- the 'blade' portion of the name is explained in the game's ending
- background story involves two golds that fought a great battle tens of thousands of years ago
- the end of this battle resulted in two giant corpses, which happen to be the setting for this game
- "It seemed like it would be enjoyable to adventure on top of the body of a giant god." h
- Mr. Takahashi was inspired by Soma Bringer for his giant god idea, and started to work on design documents right away
- a model of the two gods (one with wings) was created in order to better give a sense of what's going on
- the two gods are frozen in battle, with swords clashing against one another
- the model was created before game development began. "It was of great help when explaining the project to Nintendo."
- the entire game takes place on the two gods, and you'll find nothing but ocean surrounding them. There's not even any outer space to speak of.
- the game world is about the size of Japan
- areas of the world open up as you explore
- you'll be able to go inside one of the gods
- verticality is a big part of Xenoblade. "From the start of the project, we thought it would be interesting if we could make use of a vertical construction."
- Areas of the world correspond to parts of the gods' bodies
- you'll also experience different weather and varied monster ecolog
- you can head to the top of one of the gods to see an aurora
- the people that live on the different gods are fighting with each other
- one god is a home to organic life (where the main character is from), and the other is home to mechanical life
- story beginning: "It's simple -- the fight against mechanical life that threatens the peace of mankind."
- the game kicks off in a cave on the foot of one god
- your aim is to make it to the god's head
- the game keeps track of where you should be going for both the main quest and side quests
- use warps to transport back to older areas
- specific systems in place to keep you from getting lost
- seamless world movement: "We've put effort into this, because we felt that in order to show a living world, we needed an overwhelming sense of scale, like that of an MMORPG."
- gain experience for exploring special areas that include monsters that can't be defeated at first. Level up and return to take these foes down.
- enemies visible in the game world, encounter one and you seamlessly transition to battle
- nearby enemies can join in on battles
- journey with two AI-controlled characters
- select special skills (called Arts) for your AI party members
- your character performs attacks automatically
- Arts - attack skills, recovery skills and more
- 50 to 60 hours of gameplay
- Takahashi promises you won't spend endless amounts of time grinding or engaging in event scenes
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The story about two frozen gods sounds very intriguing.
"The world setting, story and other elements have no relation (to past Xeno games). It's a completely new title." -
- Takahashi feels that past Monolith titles have focused on events and scenarios, and this development path was a dead end.
Way to lower expectations. If you liked our previous games, this is not for YOU! :?
I'm going to wait and see more video material before deciding, but this news was a downer.
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"The world setting, story and other elements have no relation (to past Xeno games). It's a completely new title." -
- Takahashi feels that past Monolith titles have focused on events and scenarios, and this development path was a dead end.
Way to lower expectations. If you liked our previous games, this is not for YOU! :?
I'm going to wait and see more video material before deciding, but this news was a downer.
So you preferred the hugely uneven playtime to movie watching ratio?
There's nothing more exciting sometimes than playing a boss battle just to have to sit there and watch a half hour of movie. It was the weakest thing about his past Xeno titles in my opinion, including Xenogears.
"The world setting, story and other elements have no relation (to past Xeno games). It's a completely new title." -
- Takahashi feels that past Monolith titles have focused on events and scenarios, and this development path was a dead end.
Way to lower expectations. If you liked our previous games, this is not for YOU! :?
I'm going to wait and see more video material before deciding, but this news was a downer.
So you preferred the hugely uneven playtime to movie watching ratio?
There's nothing more exciting sometimes than playing a boss battle just to have to sit there and watch a half hour of movie. It was the weakest thing about his past Xeno titles in my opinion, including Xenogears.
Some of us would consider that half hour movie as the reward from the dungeon crawl and/or bossfight.
edit: Xenosaga was my top jrpg in recent game of the decade poll. I'd value only few snes era jrpg higher than it.
(ff6, chrono trigger)
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Heh, I could understand that.
Yea, I wasn't a fan of so much movie time myself. When I got to the third disc of Xenogears, I hated it, as it was nothing but boss fight/movie, bossfight/movie for like 4-5 hours of the game.
God I hated doing that disc so much, it nearly ruined the game for me.
Wow, that story and setting sounds incredibly awesome. It's like Shadow of the Colossus x 1000. And you know the gods are going to move or threaten to move at some point!
What if the main antagonist wasn't some crazy Sephiroth guy, but the entire "landmass" you live on?
Sorry, second disc. My point still stands. It was brutal for me to slog through it.
edit: Yea, the setting does sound awesome....and if the final boss were you having to fight and destroy the land in which you all live on...well that would be pretty awesome and tragic.
edit: Xenosaga was my top jrpg in recent game of the decade poll. I'd value only few snes era jrpg higher than it.
(ff6, chrono trigger)
Xenosaga Episode II was mine. I fucking love that game.
All of them were great. 2 had the best battle system, if I remember correctly. Hard, but fair.
I wish more games had collectable card games in them like in xenosaga 1.
I spent lot of time opening virtual boosters and designing decks, just to face AI.
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edited February 2010
Final Fantasy VIII had my favorite in game card game. Man I spent hours just playing that card game to collect all the rare cards.
Baten Kaitos had gorgeous background shots, and the Wii is as we all know one and a half GameCube taped together, so those shots aren't exactly outside the realm of possibility.
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Huh. Hopefully I'm not being too frank here, but never though there'd come a day when I'd have to start budgeting for the numerous worthy Wii games hitting in 2010. This is easily my seventh or eighth game coming down the way I could justify the purchase of, and hell, I've already about two so far this year.
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It's nice to see Nintendo putting Monolith to very good use, and not just leaving them in a corner to rust.
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This is a strange generalization to make, ahem, you silly goose.
Perhaps I simply play a lot of games, already own two systems, and am somewhat dissappointed that a series that I enjoyed last generation is arriving on the one I don't own?
Oh, that's right, you aren't listening to me because of an arbitrary number.
Considering the history of said series the fact that it has another sequel at all is amazing. Besides Nintendo bought these guys like 3 years ago.
It was originally a five game series and had to be condensed into three so I'm guessing sales weren't exactly stellar.
I hope that it isn't just generic jrpg that got renamed later on to tap to the fans of other xeno-games.
I don't quite think it's the case, because if it was a marketing coup it'd be a pretty silly marketing coup. I mean, let's face it, the xeno property as a whole isn't a commercial powerhouse. I'd be more easily inclined to think it's the other way round, and Takahashi disguised his next xeno-attempt as something else for a while to get the project greenlit.
As far as I know each successive game sold less than the previous one, which is actually pretty much inevitable for a serial. I still don't get why they made the episodes so tightly knit, surely they should have realized it'd have discouraged most new players from taking the story en-route. A serial's the kinda stunt you only pull if you can release the games at close intervals and for little cost, the .Hack way, not for blockbuster-budgeted games that get released over years.
But to give you an idea, the expensive PS2 Xenosaga 3 sold around 180'000 copies in japan, while on the other hand the much, much cheaper DS Endless Frontier sold around 150'000.
I remember seeing those Monado screens which were generally totally ignored everywhere. It looked promising...although I think something about the camera needs fixing. I reeeeally hope there's a different camera angle in the final game, or something.
Is it just me?
Turns out she has a DA page, and has recently released her concept artwork for Titus 12, a defunct project that looked real interesting before she hastily removed the images from her official site.
It's some good stuff, and I would love to see this become an actual game someday (in which she says in her DA page that it's still a possibility).
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It's much better than trying to make it some sort of sequel or something. That would pretty much guarantee my apathy on the project.
Xenogears tried the George Lucas method of starting at chapter 5. That idea never got off the ground.
Xenosaga tried the "We're making a 6 game story arc epic!" plan. That plan cracked after the first game, completely shattered after the second, and only an act of God let them sweep up the pieces and glue together a finale.
Were they to try yet AGAIN... well I'm out. I'm too old to go through that crap again.
Xenosaga 3 is good.
Poor sales leading to namco selling off Monolithsoft.
And Nintendo buying it.
Because you touch yourself at night.
EDIT:
To be more constructive.... I don't know the first thing about xenowhatever but Baten Kaitos was pretty good... So I'm optimistic.
It's gonna be a fighting game. I just know it.
Okay. That trailer looks MUCH better than the screens. I can also tell what bothers me about the screens.
The user interface is too damn big. It's crowding the camera.
Who doesn't?
And the first Baten Kaitos was very good, never played the second.
Second one's better than the first.
As for this, I'm firmly in "cautiously optimistic." I just hope this one isn't another grand story arc that sputters out.
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I'm going to wait and see more video material before deciding, but this news was a downer.
So you preferred the hugely uneven playtime to movie watching ratio?
There's nothing more exciting sometimes than playing a boss battle just to have to sit there and watch a half hour of movie. It was the weakest thing about his past Xeno titles in my opinion, including Xenogears.
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Some of us would consider that half hour movie as the reward from the dungeon crawl and/or bossfight.
edit: Xenosaga was my top jrpg in recent game of the decade poll. I'd value only few snes era jrpg higher than it.
(ff6, chrono trigger)
Yea, I wasn't a fan of so much movie time myself. When I got to the third disc of Xenogears, I hated it, as it was nothing but boss fight/movie, bossfight/movie for like 4-5 hours of the game.
God I hated doing that disc so much, it nearly ruined the game for me.
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The second disk is bad though.
What if the main antagonist wasn't some crazy Sephiroth guy, but the entire "landmass" you live on?
I'm sensing some epic final boss fight potential here!
Sorry, second disc. My point still stands. It was brutal for me to slog through it.
edit: Yea, the setting does sound awesome....and if the final boss were you having to fight and destroy the land in which you all live on...well that would be pretty awesome and tragic.
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Sadly this game has me more excited so far than FFXIII...how crazy is that?
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Xenosaga Episode II was mine. I fucking love that game.
Me too. Before I thought it sounded pretty generic but with that setting and those screens, it is shaping up to be a pretty sweet game.
All of them were great. 2 had the best battle system, if I remember correctly. Hard, but fair.
I wish more games had collectable card games in them like in xenosaga 1.
I spent lot of time opening virtual boosters and designing decks, just to face AI.
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Huh. Hopefully I'm not being too frank here, but never though there'd come a day when I'd have to start budgeting for the numerous worthy Wii games hitting in 2010. This is easily my seventh or eighth game coming down the way I could justify the purchase of, and hell, I've already about two so far this year.
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