The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
There is no benefit in having a conversation about bullshit data. Go to Flickr and check out photo sets posted BY teabaggers and tell me what you see. It sure ain't mainstream America. It's mostly old white people of walmart that are fucking batshit insane.
So a Gallup poll is bullshit data, and your guesstimation of the demographics of the tea party based on Flickr pics is more reliable?
What percentage of the US population is non-hispanic whites?
What is the variance of this number from the Gallup poll?
The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
There is no benefit in having a conversation about bullshit data. Go to Flickr and check out photo sets posted BY teabaggers and tell me what you see. It sure ain't mainstream America. It's mostly old white people of walmart that are fucking batshit insane.
Again, the article states quite clearly that the people who show up to rallies are not going to be of the same demographic as those with sympathies toward the party.
The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
There is no benefit in having a conversation about bullshit data. Go to Flickr and check out photo sets posted BY teabaggers and tell me what you see. It sure ain't mainstream America. It's mostly old white people of walmart that are fucking batshit insane.
Again, the article states quite clearly that the people who show up to rallies are not going to be of the same demographic as those with sympathies toward the party.
The issue is that the tea party tries to claim its for shit everyone is for, and then shows up at rallies saying "The president is a muslin" and "HANG THEM ALL!"
I'm sure the KKK also claims they are also for the betterment of mankind.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
There is no benefit in having a conversation about bullshit data. Go to Flickr and check out photo sets posted BY teabaggers and tell me what you see. It sure ain't mainstream America. It's mostly old white people of walmart that are fucking batshit insane.
Again, the article states quite clearly that the people who show up to rallies are not going to be of the same demographic as those with sympathies toward the party.
Stating and proving are not the same thing.
Like with extensive polling of 1000+ people?
Which didn't ask if they'd gone to rallies, so it can't prove the demographics are different?
The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
There is no benefit in having a conversation about bullshit data. Go to Flickr and check out photo sets posted BY teabaggers and tell me what you see. It sure ain't mainstream America. It's mostly old white people of walmart that are fucking batshit insane.
Again, the article states quite clearly that the people who show up to rallies are not going to be of the same demographic as those with sympathies toward the party.
Stating and proving are not the same thing.
Like with extensive polling of 1000+ people?
I'm sure you mean a subset of ~280 people, right? 70% of the poll you're using to determine the demographics of the tea party fell out of scope.
Assuming that poll is accurate, I still wouldn't be too worried. Keep in mind that Bush's approval ratings were higher than 17%. And considering how many people believe certain crazy shit, 17% is actually pretty damn low.
I put out a poll of everyone who supports tea parties and found that the movement is mainly made up of 5 year old girls.
Mr. Snuggleworth's Socialist table manners and leftist policy of handing out imaginary cucumber sandwiches to misfit toys are a threat to our Constitution and the very fabric of our Nation.
Why are coasts evil? East Coast is all New-York-Times-reading-coffee-sipping-wall-street-elitist-liberals, while West Coast is all Starbucks-drinking-herb-smoking-gay-loving-spanish-speaking-liberals. WHY DOES CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WATER INCREASE UNAMERICANISM?! I mean, look at all them socialist states. They all have coasts. Coincidence? I THINK NAWT.
There is only one possible reason.
Atlanteans.
Hey! Atlanteans were a group of bootstrap-appreaciating self-starters!
The real reason...guess which nation had more coastline than any other in history?
Communist Russia. That's right.
Dum dum dummmmm.
Isn't the current leader Canada?
I'm sensing a pattern.
There's a problem with this theory. Alaska has more coastline than the rest of the U.S. put together. Palin is a communist coast person as well!
Alaska is a socialist welfare state.
This is me not joking.
Alaska socializes a section of the profits from oil. There is a difference.
There's a problem with this theory. Alaska has more coastline than the rest of the U.S. put together. Palin is a communist coast person as well!
I thought all coastlines were infinite in length.
Man I hate that bullshit trick. Where do you distinguish coast? It has to be a line of zero width to be answerable, otherwise we're using an approximation. So is it where grass meets beach, or do we take a snapshot and trace the meniscus of seawater around the beach at that given moment?
It's a piece of throw-away trivia. By most measurements of coastline, there's a shit ton of it in Alaska, primarily because it's a huge state partially comprised of a metric fuckton of islands.
I can't explain that 17% thing. It makes no sense. I don't think it destroys the entire survey, though. I was more referring to Gallup's survey methods, which again seem pretty standard.
Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,033 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted March 26-28, 2010. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.
Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).
In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
Saying you are a supporter of something is a meaningless statement. Saying that you are part of something implies some kind of actual involvement.
Statements are only statements; saying you support something is no more or less meaningful than saying you are "part of" something. This is because words are not actions, it's just a bunch of people calling some other people and recording what they say.
The data indicates that tea partiers are not totally fringe. Rather than summarily dismiss information as patently false, maybe we can have an actual discussion about it?
Not true, I support both low taxes and social welfare. I support both the police, and non interventionist government. I support both Arsenal, and Barcelona. I support both space travel, and nationalized healthcare. However, many of these things are competitive and if you asked me to choose between them I'd choose one over the other. This doesn't mean I don't want both, I just know it's not a perfect world and I have to make a choice.
Support is meaningless. Donations, attendance and OPEN activity are what counts.
I'm a republican, and pray for the day this lady gets hit by a bus.
You can say that, but appreciate that if that did happen, her audience would immediately declare her as having been martyred for their righteous cause, a victim of liberal persecution to the very end.
It sounds funny, but I don't think it's so far from the truth. Especially if it was a bus, given that mass transit is already increasingly thought of as liberal witchcraft.
I'm a republican, and pray for the day this lady gets hit by a bus.
You can say that, but appreciate that if that did happen, her audience would immediately declare her as having been martyred for their righteous cause, a victim of liberal persecution to the very end.
It sounds funny, but I don't think it's so far from the truth. Especially if it was a bus, given that mass transit is already increasingly thought of as liberal witchcraft.
Who cares? The important thing would be that she'd be dead. A dead person can't run for office.
I put out a poll of everyone who supports tea parties and found that the movement is mainly made up of 5 year old girls.
Mr. Snuggleworth's Socialist table manners and leftist policy of handing out imaginary cucumber sandwiches to misfit toys are a threat to our Constitution and the very fabric of our Nation.
I'm a republican, and pray for the day this lady gets hit by a bus.
You can say that, but appreciate that if that did happen, her audience would immediately declare her as having been martyred for their righteous cause, a victim of liberal persecution to the very end.
It sounds funny, but I don't think it's so far from the truth. Especially if it was a bus, given that mass transit is already increasingly thought of as liberal witchcraft.
Who cares? The important thing would be that she'd be dead. A dead person can't run for office.
The thought of being martyred for her cause, forever, seems like it would be just as damaging--in a different way--than her running for office, and loosing.
Of course, I'm assuming she'd loose.
EDIT: To be fair, I'm one of those pussies who is personally against wishing death on anyone. Including Sarah Palin. It's a Buddhist thing.
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
What if the tea partiers keep moving into crazy until they hit the exact same frequency, amplitude, and modulation as scientology - and the two entities merge?
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
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Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Bullshit!
(Off to wikipedia!)
Edit: Oh...my.... God
Jonnie must now defend his newly-retaken planet against the predatory interests of several other interstellar races, including a race of intergalactic bankers seeking to repossess the Earth in lieu of unpaid debts
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Bullshit!
(Off to wikipedia!)
This is, however, not the end of the story. Unsure as to whether the bombs sent even reached Psychlo and under the imminent threat of counterattack, Jonnie must now defend his newly-retaken planet against the predatory interests of several other interstellar races, including a race of intergalactic bankers seeking to repossess the Earth in lieu of unpaid debts, as well as a long time rival seeking to wrest control of Earth from him. In order to ensure the security and independence of humanity, he does something that no other race in 300,000 years has been able to do: uncover the secret of Psychlo mathematics and teleportation.
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Bullshit!
(Off to wikipedia!)
This is, however, not the end of the story. Unsure as to whether the bombs sent even reached Psychlo and under the imminent threat of counterattack, Jonnie must now defend his newly-retaken planet against the predatory interests of several other interstellar races, including a race of intergalactic bankers seeking to repossess the Earth in lieu of unpaid debts, as well as a long time rival seeking to wrest control of Earth from him. In order to ensure the security and independence of humanity, he does something that no other race in 300,000 years has been able to do: uncover the secret of Psychlo mathematics and teleportation.
The dark art of double book accounting?
I liked it too, it was a fun read when I was a kid.
Also Mission Earth, which was like twelve books. I'd admit to my fondness of that series on TV it was so good. It was only when I got older that I realized that all the crazy shit in it was actually sold to Scientologists as reality.
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
The evangelical wing of the tea party already has distanced themselves because he's not the right type of Christian. Nevermind of course that Romney's brand of Christianity is hardly liberal, and was instrumental in defeating gay marriage in California, to them Romney is a CINO.
I remember Scott Brown. Something about him just doesn't sit well with me. I have this feeling he's got career-killing secrets that might come out during a campaign. His daughters are smokin' hot though.
Either one of them could hold office...
...in my pants.
In regards to Mormon, the ones I know are ultra-conservative. Too much for my tastes, in fact. Romney's being a Mormon isn't really that big a deal to me though, because I know that he wouldn't be able to make policy based on the more conservative aspects of Mormon beliefs.
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Ha ha, could almost.....almost be the plot of a douglas adams novel.
The evangelical wing of the tea party already has distanced themselves because he's not the right type of Christian. Nevermind of course that Romney's brand of Christianity is hardly liberal, and was instrumental in defeating gay marriage in California, to them Romney is a CINO.
You underestimate how much religious people dislike version upgrades to their religions.
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Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Ha ha, could almost.....almost be the plot of a douglas adam's novel.
The whole thing sounds more like something Adams would use as an aside, like a tangent entry in the Guide.
Mormons are definitely a far-removed sect of Christianity when compared to the average.
I don't know - Catholic institutions cover up acts of child molestation by Church leaders until political pressure forces the issue, while about a hundred years earlier Mormon church leaders openly molest children until political pressure forces the issue.
Seems about right to me. Might even say the Mormons are ahead of the game, what with getting there earlier and being open and transparent about their practices. Conservatives like that in their institutions, right?
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What percentage of the US population is non-hispanic whites?
What is the variance of this number from the Gallup poll?
Like with extensive polling of 1000+ people?
I'm sure the KKK also claims they are also for the betterment of mankind.
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Which didn't ask if they'd gone to rallies, so it can't prove the demographics are different?
I'm sure you mean a subset of ~280 people, right? 70% of the poll you're using to determine the demographics of the tea party fell out of scope.
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Mr. Snuggleworth's Socialist table manners and leftist policy of handing out imaginary cucumber sandwiches to misfit toys are a threat to our Constitution and the very fabric of our Nation.
5 year old girls from every race and culture you liberal shill, trying to claim that Tea Parties are racist again?
Alaska socializes a section of the profits from oil. There is a difference.
It's a piece of throw-away trivia. By most measurements of coastline, there's a shit ton of it in Alaska, primarily because it's a huge state partially comprised of a metric fuckton of islands.
Not surprising - she's doing way more damage to the GOP than to the Democrats at the moment.
It's like... really?
And both possible interpretations of the meaning of this sentence are true,
Palin is an absolute nutcase.
Romney's gone on record as saying Battlefield Earth is his favorite novel...CRAZY!
McCain has been defined as too old.
Huckabee threw away his political aspirations when he signed on as a Fox News contributer - this goes for Palin too. They have no chance in Hell now.
The GOP is going to have to find their Obama - a relative unknown with undeniable charm that can win the people over at this point.
I thought Scott Brown was the new Obama? Did the gop already throw away its new toy?
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I thought he got dismissed outright after he defended parts of the healthcare bill.
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Not true, I support both low taxes and social welfare. I support both the police, and non interventionist government. I support both Arsenal, and Barcelona. I support both space travel, and nationalized healthcare. However, many of these things are competitive and if you asked me to choose between them I'd choose one over the other. This doesn't mean I don't want both, I just know it's not a perfect world and I have to make a choice.
Support is meaningless. Donations, attendance and OPEN activity are what counts.
You can say that, but appreciate that if that did happen, her audience would immediately declare her as having been martyred for their righteous cause, a victim of liberal persecution to the very end.
It sounds funny, but I don't think it's so far from the truth. Especially if it was a bus, given that mass transit is already increasingly thought of as liberal witchcraft.
Who cares? The important thing would be that she'd be dead. A dead person can't run for office.
See, you think you're joking but you're not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29lmR_357rA
The thought of being martyred for her cause, forever, seems like it would be just as damaging--in a different way--than her running for office, and loosing.
Of course, I'm assuming she'd loose.
EDIT: To be fair, I'm one of those pussies who is personally against wishing death on anyone. Including Sarah Palin. It's a Buddhist thing.
Suddenly Palin sounds like the normal one.
Is this serious? Were I Romney's opponent I would have an attack ad out that says "Romney's favorite novel is Battlefield Earth, by SCIENTOLOGY FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD."
And watch him drop 10 points in the polls. I think even tea-partiers would distance themselves from Scientology.
EDIT: Having read BE, I remember lots of banking stuff in the second half. That may explain why he likes it. Or not, I don't recall much past 'banking stuff'.
Yeah, the movie (which I do enjoy, but only because it's fucking hilarious!) covered only half of the book. The second half has the humans defending the earth from intergalactic collection agencies using legal loopholes (I am not kidding).
Bullshit!
(Off to wikipedia!)
Edit: Oh...my.... God
I liked it too, it was a fun read when I was a kid.
Also Mission Earth, which was like twelve books. I'd admit to my fondness of that series on TV it was so good. It was only when I got older that I realized that all the crazy shit in it was actually sold to Scientologists as reality.
I dunno, you can lose hounds and a race can be loose :P
The evangelical wing of the tea party already has distanced themselves because he's not the right type of Christian. Nevermind of course that Romney's brand of Christianity is hardly liberal, and was instrumental in defeating gay marriage in California, to them Romney is a CINO.
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Mormons are definitely a far-removed sect of Christianity when compared to the average.
Either one of them could hold office...
...in my pants.
In regards to Mormon, the ones I know are ultra-conservative. Too much for my tastes, in fact. Romney's being a Mormon isn't really that big a deal to me though, because I know that he wouldn't be able to make policy based on the more conservative aspects of Mormon beliefs.
Ha ha, could almost.....almost be the plot of a douglas adams novel.
The whole thing sounds more like something Adams would use as an aside, like a tangent entry in the Guide.
Seems about right to me. Might even say the Mormons are ahead of the game, what with getting there earlier and being open and transparent about their practices. Conservatives like that in their institutions, right?