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¡El tema de Pokémon! ¡Ya salieron HeartGold y SoulSilver!

RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Games and Technology
Camui wrote: »
Se confirmó la situeta del más nuevo Pokémon:
Zoroark, el Pokémon engañoso.

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¡Bienvenido al tema de Pokémon de Juegos y Tecnología! Aquí opinamos, entrenamos y batallamos con los monstruos de bolsillo.
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Si no sabes qué es Pokémon, aquí te ayudamos a entender mejor lo que son.
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If you don't care about Pokémon, then GTFO.

Pokémon short for ポケットモンスター or Pocket Monsters. They are creatures that are each one based on an element and are able to attack with moves from those elements. You use your own creatures to capture more and more species you find in the wild. There are 493 of them, and each one has a varying degree of usability in battle.

Tiers, much like in fighting games, will give you an idea of which of them will make it more likely to win a match, but won't necessarily guarantee your victory. For the most up-to-date tier list and probably the most reliable and most used, please refer to Smogon, which also offers examples of movesets and EV spreads that will give you an idea of what to do with yours.
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If you want to be a trainer, and don't even know which version to buy, you can either get Diamond or Pearl for your battling needs, although there is a third version, Platinum (which is out now) and you might want to grab that one instead, as it features several options not available in Diamond or Pearl. There are also two other versions coming, Heart Gold and Soul Silver which are remakes of the game that came out exactly ten years ago in Japan.


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What you need to start battling:

- First of all, finish the main game first. Trying to understand and manipulate EVs and IVs before that will be a pain.
- Once you've beaten the Elite Four, the real fun* begins. First, give Individual Values or IVs a read. You will also want to know everything about breeding and Effort Values or Evs. Natures Natures should also be read.
- Now that you know some things about EVs, you can either grind at the Battle Tower for the points needed to buy the Power Items or borrow them from someone who is used to play here at G&T. These items will make EV training much easier.
- If you aren't sure what to do with your Pokés, check out Smogon for some tips that will help you choose an appropriate EV spread and moveset for your Mons.
- Check out Psypoke's EV training spots.
- Also, check out what's inside the spoiler for a better way to breed eggs (doesn't work in Platinum):

- You might want to check Chen's list of what you should consider adding to your team:

01 Rapid Spin/Magne[strike]ton[/strike]zone
02 Rock resist
[strike]03 Roar/Whirlwind[/strike]
[strike]04 Mixpert counter[/strike]
05 Gengar counter
06 Special Tank
07 Physical Tank
[strike]08 Recover Zam counter[/strike]
[strike]09 Grass Type[/strike]
10 Toxic taker
11 Will-o-Wisp taker
12 Paralysis taker
13 Sleep taker
14 Fighting resistance
15 Tyranitar counter
[strike]16 Reversal counter[/strike]
[strike]17 Sludge Bomb Tentacruel counter[/strike]
18 Water type
[strike]19 Taunt Umbreon counter[/strike]
[strike]20 Jirachi Counter[/strike]
21 Celebi Counter
22 Normal resistance (Explosion)
[strike]23 Curselax counter[/strike]
24 Gyarados+[strike]Magneton[/strike]Electivire counter
25 Salamence counter (usually Ice Beam)
26 Ghost to block Rapid Spin (only if you're using Spikes)
27 Stealth Rock user
28 Draco Meteor taker
29 Outrage taker
30 Fire resistance (Heatran, Infernape)
31 Steel resistance
32 Priority user
33 Revenge killer (usually scarfed or priority user)
34 Trick taker

- And more importantly: Have fun! It doesn't matter if you win or lose. You must have learned something from experience, and if your newest creation wasn't as good as thought it'd be and you want to keep it boxed, don't feel discouraged. We all have trained some Pokémon that we'll never use again because it sounded better on paper than it performed in practice.

General battling rules
- Pokémon battles through Wi-fi automatically level your Pokémon to either levels 50 or 100. So you don't have to train them to level 100 yourself, saving a lot of time. In fact, it will be better if you don't level them up all the way to level 100 since you at that stage you won't be able to edit your Pokés' EVs.
-Sleep Clause: you may not put more than one of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at a time.
-Species Clause: your team must be comprised of six different species of Pokémon.
-Suicide Clause: If both players are down to their last Pokémon, the player with the first Pokémon to hit 0 HP is the loser. In other words, using moves like Self Destruct and Explosion cause you to lose, even if it kills your opponent. However, using a move with a recoil that kill both you and your opponent is a win for you.
-No Legendary Pokémon whatsoever. This includes Wobbuffet and Garchomp.


Warnings

- Do NOT buy Pokémon Battle Revolution unless you hate yourself.
- If you use U-Turn with a Choice Banded Pokémon, and your next Pokémon also has U-Turn, it will be locked to U-Turn as well. It seems this was a glitch in DP ans was fixed in Platinum. Thanks to Ashton Dragon for the first bit of information and to InvisibleInk for the second bit.
- If your opponent Yawns you and you have a Chesto Berry, you might not want to use Rest, because at the end of that turn you will have woken up with the Chesto Berry after Resting, then you'll fall asleep again because of the Yawn.
- Don't take a bath with your Tentacool.
- Beware: The game is very addictive once you join the community. Make your time.
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Sites of interest

Marriland's team builder. It will let you know how many weaknesses your team has so you can take meassures before battling.
Metalkid's IV Calculator.
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Usa el post de abajo para revisar los códigos de amigo de los foreros más activos.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Active Battlers' Friend Codes:
    RockinX (Diamond): 0301-6425-9658 -- (SoulSilver): 2837-2176-3811
    Kay (Diamond): 2277-9321-5433 -- (Platinum): 4253-9422-6181
    InvisibleInk (Diamond): 1890-7641-5153 -- (Platinum): 1419 2587 1159
    Kuribo's Shoe: 4726-3831-9680
    Chen: 1633-1499-9731
    Emerlmaster999 (Platinum): 1762-8554-8209
    Arikado: 0645-5958-6383
    Aggril (Pearl): 1418-3381-0393
    troublebrewing: 3824-4455-1138
    SirToasty (Diamond): 0645-2240-5346 -- (Platinum): 2836-5993-1590
    krylon666 (Plat): 5198-8471-4100
    Jugs (Platinum): 2965-4488-5135
    Eveelution (Diamond): 1934-5192-0708 -- (Platinum): 2707-7660-6352
    Rami: 1505-1815-6853
    Zerokku: 3008-4195-7069
    WIckedkarma: 2922 6385 6459
    Nerdgasmic: 1333 0236 8007
    Professor Hydron: 4382-9013-9323
    Kabuki64: 0516 4736 9808

    The G&T Pokémon League

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    Hi! Welcome to the exciting world of Pokémon! As an aspiring young Pokémon Trainer you're welcome to enter the G&T Pokémon League and prove your worth by challenging various skilled Trainers and earning their badges! Each badge will edge you closer to becoming a Pokémon Champion! Dare to give it a try?

    Standard Gym Rules

    Each Gym Leader is bound to a certain type. A minimum of four Pokémon must adhere to that type. A Gym Leader may summon two species of a different type if he or she desires. However they must abide by having a move of the gym's type. For all intents and purposes, Hidden Power is of the Normal type.

    You may choose any six Pokémon he or she wishes to challenge any Gym Leader. However you must abide by the following rules:

    Uber Clause: The use of Uber Pokémon is forbidden. Click here for a list of Ubers.
    Legendary Clause: The use of Legendary Pokémon is forbidden. Click here for a list of Legendaries.
    Sleep Clause: You cannot put two of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at the same time. (Rest not applicable)
    Evasion Clause: No moves that increase evasion such as Double Team and Minimize may be used. Things like Sand-Attack and Sand Veil are still legal.
    Species Clause: No two of the same Pokémon may be used on one team.
    One-Hit KO Clause: One-hit KO (OHKO) moves, such as Horn Drill or Sheer Cold, are forbidden.
    Selfdestruct Clause: The moves Selfdestruct, Explosion, Perish Song, Destiny Bond, or any other such move may not be used if both players only have 1 remaining Pokémon. If a player uses one of those moves under this condition, they automatically lose.

    Optional Gym Rules

    Item Clause: All items are limited to one per team.
    <Insert Move> Clause: The use of <insert move> is forbidden.
    Double Battle: 2vs2 battles are initiated.

    Gym Activity

    A Gym Leader may lose his or her status through inactivity. If a Gym Leader does not respond to your challenge by PM, please notify us by posting in this thread.

    You may challenge an active Gym Leader and take over his or her gym by defeating him or her and abiding to the Gym Leader Rules. To clarify, you are limited to four Pokémon of that particular gym's type and two Pokémon of a different type that must carry a move of the gym's type.

    Codes of Conduct

    Don't be a dick.

    The Gyms

    Steel Gym
    Leader: Munkus Beaver
    Reward:
    Special Rules: Item Clause

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    Flying Gym
    Leader: Speed Racer
    Reward:
    Special Rules: No Stealth Rock

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    Ice Gym
    Leader: Professor Hydron
    Reward:
    Special Rules: Double Battle

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    Fire Gym
    Leader: Skulkraken
    Reward:
    Special Rules: Shoddy Battle Only

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    Psychic Gym
    Leader: RockinX
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

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    Water Gym
    Leader: Chen
    Reward: Torrent Badge
    Special Rules:

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    Normal Gym
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    Leader: InvisibleInk
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

    Click here to create your Trainer Card.

    Poison Gym
    Leader: Eeveelution
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

    Click here to create your Trainer Card.

    Electric Gym
    Leader: TC4T
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

    Click here to create your Trainer Card.

    Fighting Gym
    Leader: Enlong
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

    Click here to create your Trainer Card.

    Dragon Gym
    Leader: Zerokku
    Reward:
    Special Rules:

    Click here to create your Trainer Card.

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  • edited February 2010
    im getting a new DS as soon as i ship this one out to repairs. then its gold/silver/battlan!

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    There will be battling tonight.

    Hopefully. I have to do two loads of laundry and a fair amount of ironing and prepare for an interview for a Much Better Position at work.

    Kay on
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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    What's up with the spanish? Just curious.

    Also, you might mention in the OP that the Jirachi event starts on the 27th at Gamestop.

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  • RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Until a remake of yellow, I'm not playing.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    What's up with the spanish? Just curious.

    Also, you might mention in the OP that the Jirachi event starts on the 27th at Gamestop.

    Forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me.

    The Spanish thing is just because I ran out of witty things to say.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Man, Yellow was lame. Nobody uses Pikachu, and anyone who uses Pikachu is smart enough to evolve him into Raichu at some point.

    The least they could have done was made the stupid Pikachu you start with have better stat increases than a regular Pikachu.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Terrendos wrote: »
    Man, Yellow was lame. Nobody uses Pikachu, and anyone who uses Pikachu is smart enough to evolve him into Raichu at some point.

    The least they could have done was made the stupid Pikachu you start with have better stat increases than a regular Pikachu.

    I have used Pikachu with varying levels of success. I still have to use the Jolly Pikachu from GameStop, though.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    In Spanish, the day goes before the month, but I put the month before the day on the title so that you guys wouldn't get confused.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    RockinX wrote: »
    Terrendos wrote: »
    Man, Yellow was lame. Nobody uses Pikachu, and anyone who uses Pikachu is smart enough to evolve him into Raichu at some point.

    The least they could have done was made the stupid Pikachu you start with have better stat increases than a regular Pikachu.

    I have used Pikachu with varying levels of success. I still have to use the Jolly Pikachu from GameStop, though.

    Pikachu is fine for the story mode, which is basically the point of Yellow. Yes, of course Raichu will be better for competitive battling and stuff like the Elite 4. But just playing through the game and collecting Gym badges you can do quite well with a Pikachu.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Unlucky wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    I finally beat Sapphire! Those 54 levels grinding with Shroomish finally payed off. 100% sleep and he almost always goes first? Awesome! I had to spend some of my hoarded Ethers/Elixers to refill PP, but that's why I'd been saving them. Everyone on the party actually did something and took down something. Breloom, Manectric, Swalot, Pelipper, Glalie and Torkoal.

    dropped the starter?
    Speaking of which, how common is that? People dropping the starting pokemon?

    I dumped my Treecko in the bank pretty fast once I caught Shroomish and Lotad. Sadly wasn't enough room for both, and with Wingull handling the water attacks...

    Munkus' situation is pretty funny. That seems to happen to almost all of you guys though, sadly.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Unlucky wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    I finally beat Sapphire! Those 54 levels grinding with Shroomish finally payed off. 100% sleep and he almost always goes first? Awesome! I had to spend some of my hoarded Ethers/Elixers to refill PP, but that's why I'd been saving them. Everyone on the party actually did something and took down something. Breloom, Manectric, Swalot, Pelipper, Glalie and Torkoal.

    dropped the starter?
    Speaking of which, how common is that? People dropping the starting pokemon?

    I dumped my Treecko in the bank pretty fast once I caught Shroomish and Lotad. Sadly wasn't enough room for both, and with Wingull handling the water attacks...

    Munkus' situation is pretty funny. That seems to happen to almost all of you guys though, sadly.

    Not really, because we have never agreed to use non-EV-trained pokés.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Unlucky wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    I finally beat Sapphire! Those 54 levels grinding with Shroomish finally payed off. 100% sleep and he almost always goes first? Awesome! I had to spend some of my hoarded Ethers/Elixers to refill PP, but that's why I'd been saving them. Everyone on the party actually did something and took down something. Breloom, Manectric, Swalot, Pelipper, Glalie and Torkoal.

    dropped the starter?
    Speaking of which, how common is that? People dropping the starting pokemon?

    I dumped my Treecko in the bank pretty fast once I caught Shroomish and Lotad. Sadly wasn't enough room for both, and with Wingull handling the water attacks...

    Munkus' situation is pretty funny. That seems to happen to almost all of you guys though, sadly.

    Huh buh wha

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    RockinX wrote: »
    Not really, because we have never agreed to use non-EV-trained pokés.

    Neither did anyone in SE. Lord, read the post.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    RockinX wrote: »
    Not really, because we have never agreed to use non-EV-trained pokés.

    Neither did anyone in SE. Lord, read the post.

    The other guys were saying that, so I assumed it was the case.

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  • AdelliosAdellios Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Another event? Well some of the stores where I live are being converted to Gamestops so maybe we will get the event here this time.

    Exciting!

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    considering all that you need to do to get evs is level your pokemon up on stuff that gives the right evs it's hard to not ev train. and the fighting gym has 5 ous on the team, I doubt anyone will complain.

    Jars on
  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I am totally getting Jirachi now too.

    Man I am loving all these events!

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Does anyone have the event Regigigas that Toys R Us gave out last year? I just started playing Platinum and found out it's the only way to get the Regi event.

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  • edited February 2010
    the spanish title is throwing me off <_<

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  • OpiumOpium regular
    edited February 2010
    So what's the most Spanish Pokemon?

    I wanna say Ludicolo or Slaking, but I don't know if that's racist.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Hello new pokemon thread. That last one went by rather quickly.

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  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus Hi, I'm Liam! with broken glassesRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I am currently trading pokemon with myself and one surprised me by evolving. I'll need to catch some more bidoofs soon.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    RockinX wrote: »
    The other guys were saying that, so I assumed it was the case.
    Somebody actually went so far as to declare that Munkus couldn't play, but apparently he ignored that. I think people are too afraid of him to defy him. Because if you tell munkus that he can't play pokemon with you,
    he will beat you up.

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Right I want to restart my Emerald game, but that means trading all my decent/rare pokés on my FireRed cart.
    But to do that I need to open the National Dex/Global Trading on FireRed; so I need 60 pokés. What's the fastest way to do that?

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Right I want to restart my Emerald game, but that means trading all my decent/rare pokés on my FireRed cart.
    But to do that I need to open the National Dex/Global Trading on FireRed; so I need 60 pokés. What's the fastest way to do that?

    Go on a trip through the whole Kanto region, stock up on Ultra Balls, preferably with a Scyther packing False Swipe, and start with Route 1, and go through every place in order.

    Having every rod helps, too.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Anybody want to fight?

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Getting 60 Pokemon is only the first step though, you've gone through the whole story mode? You have the Ruby and Sapphire items?

    I'll have to look into this Jirachi giveaway, is it Platinum only? If not, I'll have at least 3 (more) Jirachis soon.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Supposedly the Jirachi give-away will work with Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum according to serebii.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Anybody want to fight?
    I have a horrible team that I want to use, debuting my 2 new pokemon.
    This is the worst way to start using them, but fuck it I'll head online.
    1 on 1 right?

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  • TraumaTrauma Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Opium wrote: »
    So what's the most Spanish Pokemon?

    I wanna say Ludicolo or Slaking, but I don't know if that's racist.

    Ludicolo, probably not. Slaking? Ehhhhhh....

    Although, really? We've already had the Jynx blackface debate. Who knows what the Japanese dev team is thinking? Maybe Ho-oh is a gay rights activist as the Rainbow Poke.

    Trauma on
    DHS wrote: »
    If someone creates a miracle foolproof medicine that is a cure for the common cold, cancer and loneliness but it has the minor side effects of explosive diarrhea, uncontrollable bleeding from the eyes and murder-fugues, that's not a total 'resounding' success.

    White FC: 0218 0574 8285
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Anybody want to fight?

    I'll fight you, Munkus.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Anybody want to fight?
    I have a horrible team that I want to use, debuting my 2 new pokemon.
    This is the worst way to start using them, but fuck it I'll head online.
    1 on 1 right?

    Unless you want to do 2v2!

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I don't.
    I'm online.

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Getting 60 Pokemon is only the first step though, you've gone through the whole story mode? You have the Ruby and Sapphire items?

    I'll have to look into this Jirachi giveaway, is it Platinum only? If not, I'll have at least 3 (more) Jirachis soon.

    You have to get the national dex before you can get to the rest of the islands with the ruby/sapphire items on don't you?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Alright, I'll be on in just a minute.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    K, gotta put in your friend code then I will be back on.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    hehe the worst possible team I could have brought.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I will fight someone after you two are finished.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I win the award for most poorly used Metagross ever.
    and its a Shiny one too!

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