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Battlestar Galactica, please explain WTH is going on. (potentially spoily)
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I hadn't seen any of BSG until yesterday. I bought season one, because it was strongly recommended by a friend. I watched six episodes, and I really like it so far, but I'm just operating on a silly goose level of confusion here. I suppose I should simply ask; Is it suppose to string you along this much? If so please just say 'Yes, answers are coming.'
If not, and I don't want any spoilers, but; who the fuck is that blonde lady and the old guy on the roof? What the FUCK is up with Doctor Gaius, is he a Cylon agent or is he really just bat-shit loco? Why does everything seem so out of fucking chronological order (they should have dates appear on-screen)!? When is the shit in the abandoned city with Helo supposed to take place? Is Boomer a Cylon from the get go or, she is being prepped to be one...like wat? wat? So she is a Cylon, but she has compassion for humans now? Or, she isn't a Cylon but is under mind control, all while her double will eventually be there to replace her as a full Cylon....
Also, I have no prior experience of the BSG universe, and it seems like they're leaving chunks of info out, as if they made the show for the fan-boys familiar with the material (which is pretty cool, but still). I'd like for the 'holocaust' to be explained a little more, wth happened, who are the Cylons...etc... The show is great but half the experience to me is muttering "wtf? why? when did that happen...who is that, wtf"
If not, and I don't want any spoilers, but; who the fuck is that blonde lady and the old guy on the roof? What the FUCK is up with Doctor Gaius, is he a Cylon agent or is he really just bat-shit loco? Why does everything seem so out of fucking chronological order (they should have dates appear on-screen)!? When is the shit in the abandoned city with Helo supposed to take place? Is Boomer a Cylon from the get go or, she is being prepped to be one...like wat? wat? So she is a Cylon, but she has compassion for humans now? Or, she isn't a Cylon but is under mind control, all while her double will eventually be there to replace her as a full Cylon....
Also, I have no prior experience of the BSG universe, and it seems like they're leaving chunks of info out, as if they made the show for the fan-boys familiar with the material (which is pretty cool, but still). I'd like for the 'holocaust' to be explained a little more, wth happened, who are the Cylons...etc... The show is great but half the experience to me is muttering "wtf? why? when did that happen...who is that, wtf"
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Episodes occur in chronological order, but there is a non-specified amount of time between episodes that you just have to glean through context.
For the most part the things that are confusing to you are supposed to be confusing, so don't worry about it. Pretty much all you need to know is in the voiceover during the opening credits.
I don't know what roof you're talking about.
...there's a miniseries?
Haha, oh man...yeah, that's what I thought might have happened.
The series began with a 3-hour miniseries (two 1.5 hour episodes, or 2 hours with commercials, I beleive). This is really the beginning of Season 1, and I believe it is the first disc of the Season 1 boxed set. However, Netflix separates it from Season 1 and lists it separately as the Battlestar Galactica Miniseries (or something like that). When you add Season 1 to your queue, the first disc you get is actually disc 2 of the boxed set. Many poor people have been burned by this.
Go back, watch the miniseries, and it should answer some of your questions.
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So just kick back and enjoy the ride, don't be in too much of a hurry to get to the last season...
Also there is another movie/miniseries (I guess you could call it that) called Razor. I can't remember exactly when you're supposed to watch it, I think maybe around 3rd or 4th season.
you just had to bring it up didn't you
ugh deadwood and dead like me are the blueballsiest shows
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Isn't razor just 3 or 4 episodes a couple seasons in? Just like the mini series that everyone has been talking about here.
Or the last couple seasons for that matter. It kinda went down hill after the entire show was pretty much just
No, Razor aired between seasons, and actually took place out of sequence. Its not part of any season.
It is generally suggested to watch Razor after episode 2-19 (I believe) as the Razor arc was the intro to season 2.5, and the film ends with the events of 2-19. There are also "Razor flashback" webisodes which further build on "Razor".
There's also "The Plan" which was a more recent movie (released after season 4 ended). It is what it is, which is to say a lot of redaction to make season 1 more in line with the overall plot. It answers a lot of questions you have going forward into season 3. I'd suggest watching it around the end of 2.0 (episode 2-9, I believe).
There are webisodes released between all seasons expect for season 1 to 2 which explain a lot of the background, especially for the season 2 to 3 break.
Here's the episode list on this page.
That movie doesn't exist. And if it did exist, it was a huge letdown and awful without half the original cast.
It does...but Netflix doesn't handle it that way. They separate it out.
Originally, SCI-FI was going to just bring over all the EURO DVD's and put them on American shelves. That's why I have a copy of Season One and the Miniseries, as well as the American Season 1 (which INCLUDES the miniseries) on my shelf.
You'll get almost everything answered by the end of season four, though you may, or may not be happy with those answers.
As for your specific questions: Boomer has always been a cylon. Helo's story is taking place concurrently with the main story in the fleet. The flesh-job cylons are more complicated than the general attitude in the fleet would lead you to believe. Gaius Baltar is fucking awesome, but you're not supposed to know if he's crazy or not yet, so just enjoy the ride.
Also, like Runningman said, it really sounds here like you haven't seen the miniseries. If that's the case, stop everything, and watch it now.
Chronologically, Razor takes place right after 2.17 - The Captain's Hand, but sometime before 2.19 - Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 1. But it wasn't produced until after season 3, as a lead-in to season 4. Watching it earlier won't really spoil much of anything, except hint at a plot-point for Starbuck that won't happen for another season or so.
I implore you: Do not watch The Plan until you get to Season 4.5, and there's a specific episode in Season 4.5 that you should watch first. To be quite honest, The Plan was written with an audience in mind that had seen the entire show, and I think there is some stuff from the finale that is even "spoiled" in The Plan if you see it earlier.
To those who have seen it:
Edit: The person who suggested watching the Plan suggested you watch it before the main characters in it are even introduced. Take that for what you will.
The Plan is none of your concern until you've seen the rest of the series. >>
It will basically single-handedly spoil much of the series for you if you watch it early.
Anyway, I watched the miniseries and I'm feeling much better about things. A lot of my more serious questions have been answered, or put in the right framing so I can enjoy the series more. I agree with many here, though. The miniseries has some issues. I felt they should have focused less on driving home the personalities of the characters and more on the events, and lore of the universe. I'm particularly interested in the development of the AI that led to the Cylons, and the independent advancement that lead to Cylon 'humans'. That will probably be saved as a bad made for TV prequel in a handful of years. I thought the character of Gaius to be too weak to have that much importance placed on his character that early. However, I love the dynamic between Thrace and Odama SR. I also think they're probably two of the better acting performances on the show.
And as for the development of the AI...
... yeah. Um...
You'll get there.
Edit: Also, your confusion.. for now. Trust me, enjoy the ride.
bahahahahahah man I can't wait to talk to you again in like 3 seasons.
I loved it at the beginning, but then...well, I was in the same boat as you. I didn't know what to make of anything, and it's hard telling who's on any one side because there aren't really any definite sides.
I will say this: If you're watching it on the DVDs, use the goddamn subtitles. They will save you a lot of headache.
God damnit, are you people doing this to me on purpose!? Now WTF is RAZOR!? When should I watch it?
It's boxed in the beginning of Season 4 I believe. I'd watch then.
Looking back on the entire show, Razor added almost nothing significant to the overall story.
Season 1
Season 2
Webisodes: The Resistance (On the Season 3 DVD)
Season 3
Razor (and a series of webisodes about young Adama on the razor dvd)
Season 4.0
more webisodes on the dvd
Season 4.5
The Plan
That's everything and the order they're in.
Stop watching after episode 4 in Season 3.
Limed soooooooo hard. You don't want to know what's going on until it happens.
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Hah. They didnt wait a few years...
And...its not as interesting as one might assume. Apparently humans, before the first cylon war, made irrational, terrible decisions and jump to horrendus conclusions about loved ones.
Its pretty much Saved by the Bell: The New Cast, with robots.