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Female Video Gamers

marchelovemarchelove Registered User new member
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
Hey there all you ladies (or gentlemen pretending to be ladies, if you really want to you can join in, I can't tell from here anyway.)

I'm researching into my target audience for a brief I'm doing and that audience is

FEMALE VIDEO GAMERS!

Already many of my preconceptions have been shattered by what I have found but I've only tipped the iceberg. I would like you all very much to help me understand the opposite sex and their gaming habits so that I can use your research for my degree. I'm genuinly interested in what you have to say as well so please take you time and fill as much or as little as you want in and then just repost it. Simple!

Thank you very much for your time ^_^

1. How long have you been a video game player?

2. What kind of games do you like playing? Why and examples?

3. What kind of games do you DISLIKE playing? Why and examples?

4. Which consoles do you own and why? Why not the others?

5. do you agree, that the video game industry uses exploitation unneccessairly in both games AND advertising in order to get an easy and wide market? and if so how does that make you feel?

6. how do you feel about nintendo and sony using the colour pink on their consoles to attract a female audience?

7. if you could change the ways that games were marketed to women, or perhaps in a more unisexed manner like the wii/DS, what would you change about it and why?

Now some aesthetic (what appeals to you) based questions. Try and give as many examples as you can

8. What do you like to look at? (imagery, certain films, colour schemes, tv programs, cartoons, anything else) Give examples generously

9. What do you NOT LIKE to look at? (Same as above but opposite if you catch my drift)

10. Which cultures visually appeal to you? Could be a countries culture and its colours , a kind of sub culture like the metal scene.. anything you want and as many examples that suit you.

11. and finally, who are some of your favourite artists/illustrators/idols or just some people who's image you like?

Thank you so much if you've managed to get this far through the questionnaire, I'm forever indebted to you and as a small thanks, feel free to claim you now own a small portion of my soul. How cool is that? Use it for whatever purposes you see fit. (bragging rights, creepy shrine of other young mens souls.. bargaining chip..)

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How can you be sure that anyone who replies to this survey of yours is actually a female?

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  • IncendiusIncendius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Because he's a moron?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You know, the whole thing that Platfourmers does with "you need 50 posts to start a new thread" kinda bugged me, but now I see why they put it there.

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  • marchelovemarchelove Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    actually, i did state in the OPENING LINE, that if you want to post if you're a boy then go ahead as i CAN'T TELL if you're actually a girl or not.

    To be honest, it doesn't actually matter if you are a boy or a girl, just that you have given the impression that you are one by actually answering this survey. So if you want to help me, don a metaphorical dress and get answerin'!

    Cheers

    EDIT: .. I thought i'd completely checked the rules for anything like a '# of posts before posting a new thread' but I've overlooked it apparantly. Sorry about that. This research is valuable to me but it doesn't look like i can gather it here.

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  • IncendiusIncendius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What about a real dress?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2007
    Incendius wrote:
    What about a real dress?

    Two hours in the corner.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If you don't care if the person answering is female or not why even ask? I mean you are most likely not going to get any kind of accurate data and if that does not bother you why even do it in the first place.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited January 2007
    My mod sense tells me that this thread is a train wreck in progress.

    I'm gonna go shopping. Then I'll have a looksie at this thread again and come to conclusions.

    Echo on
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If this is really for a degree, you're doing it wrong.

    First, as has already been mentioned, you can't be certain any of the respondents are female.

    Second, any demographic information you can get from users of this site is not going to be representative of the population as a whole. This forum has a very, very strong console/retail pc gaming bias. You're omitting vast swathes of people who probably don't consider themselves "gamers" but who play games on their mobile phone, Flash games on the Web, or even things like Buzz! which don't conform to the standard console gaming market.

    Third, a lot of your questions are poorly constructed and/or worded. Like:
    "What do you like to look at? (imagery, certain films, colour schemes, tv programs, cartoons, anything else) Give examples generously"

    What does that even mean? How the hell are you going to perform any kind of meaningful analysis on the answers?

    I also hope you can back up your assumptions that the colour pink is being used to attract female gamers, and that the Wii and DS are "unisex" in their marketing.

    japan on
  • marchelovemarchelove Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    japan wrote:
    If this is really for a degree, you're doing it wrong.

    First, as has already been mentioned, you can't be certain any of the respondents are female.

    Second, any demographic information you can get from users of this site is not going to be representative of the population as a whole. This forum has a very, very strong console/retail pc gaming bias. You're omitting vast swathes of people who probably don't consider themselves "gamers" but who play games on their mobile phone, Flash games on the Web, or even things like Buzz! which don't conform to the standard console gaming market.

    Third, a lot of your questions are poorly constructed and/or worded. Like:
    "What do you like to look at? (imagery, certain films, colour schemes, tv programs, cartoons, anything else) Give examples generously"

    What does that even mean? How the hell are you going to perform any kind of meaningful analysis on the answers?

    I also hope you can back up your assumptions that the colour pink is being used to attract female gamers, and that the Wii and DS are "unisex" in their marketing.

    Its true that by posting here I'm eliminating those other types of 'gamers' but this isn't the only place I'm trying to collect research from and I've been collecting data from female students in my area using much simpler forms of this questionnaire which talk about flash and mobile phone games, I've managed to omit them from this version though somehow.

    You're right, the questions towards the end are poorly worded, I've been having trouble trying to summarize such a complicated request for information into a question. Should try and split it into smaller questions maybe. What I'm trying to garner from that paticular question is a taste of what the audience finds aestetically appeasing so I can then research into that and hopefully turn my final piece towards what would be considered visually catered towards Female Video Gamers.

    Bit complicated isn't it. I hope you can see what I was trying to do with that explanation though. I'm afraid this really is for a degree, first year at least but degree non the less. Bit ashamed that my gathering skills have done this badly. What do you recommened that I change now that I've attempted to explain myself?

    I know that I can't be sure that my respondents are female but that is the risk you take when you research using the internet and I'm taking that full into account. Unless you can think of the fool proof method which would be great.

    And about the colour pinlk being used to attract female gamers and wii/ds being unisex are based on what my target audience has told me already, they are popular opinion from those I've talked to and don't represent my own views. Thats how I've presented them in my collected research anyway, i need to check I still give that impression.

    Hope that answers some of your questions and I hope you can help me with the problems I've shown you.

    Will

    EDIT: And to Echo, it does seem to be piling up quite bad doesn't it. I hope it improves but at least its a lesson for me on trying to obtain nformation from people in this way.
    Marathon wrote:
    If you don't care if the person answering is female or not why even ask? I mean you are most likely not going to get any kind of accurate data and if that does not bother you why even do it in the first place.

    Its not that I don't care if the person answering if ACTUALLY female or male, its that
    1> I would just have to assume that that person considered themselves to be a female or
    2> Take into account that some men may just impersonate/lie and answer the questions.

    This is something I need to take into account and you're right, alot will probably be inaccurate but at least I've tried to research using this method on the internet. This is something I can document at least and say why it was sucessful or why it failed. The lack of accurate return I'm getting back is bothering but it all becomes part of the learning process. As is learning not to ask leading and dodgy questions.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You are also not taking in account that there are people who aren't from your area/country, which may invalidate your thesis.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    marchelove wrote:
    I'm afraid this really is for a degree, first year at least but degree non the less. Bit ashamed that my gathering skills have done this badly. What do you recommened that I change now that I've attempted to explain myself?

    Ah. First year ain't so bad, you made it sound like this was for a dissertation or something. I think the problem is that you don't know what question you're trying to answer.

    You say that you're doing a brief. What kind? Is this for marketing purposes, product design? I'm assuming you're trying to plan either marketing material for an existing game, or trying to design the game itself.

    In any case, you can't really decide to aim for "female gamers" because that's too broad a definition. I really doubt anyone could produce a product that would appeal to all women, of all ages, from different backgrounds whose only common ground is that they happen to have an interest in gaming.

    You need to have a specific question, something like "will this game concept appeal to young women of ages 16 to 35 who are interested in fashion?"

    Once you have a question like that you can craft useful questions and plan in advance how you'll analyse them. At the moment you seem to be asking "What do female video gamers like?" which is a valid question, but you need to break it up into a set of smaller questions like the one above, and draw conclusions about smaller demographic groups. If you did get answers to the questions you've asked, the answers would cover such a broad range you'd end up unable to draw any conclusions.

    I do see you've already kind of started to do this, (the Wii/DS questions and the questions about the colour pink) which is good, it's the pattern you need to follow to get useful information. Ask specific questions, draw conclusions based on the answers, target further questions using those conclusions.

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  • Seta 3000Seta 3000 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This thread reminds me of that contest some guy has going that needs sponsors and shit.

    That guy's almost as bad.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Protip: there's maybe five regular posters here that are female or willing to admit they're female. (Despite the relatively high IQ of this forum, chicks still get flooded with PMs from horny guys.) So this probably won't be very useful to you.

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  • NswyersNswyers Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    First you say that this research is important to you, then you say you don't care if a guy answers, pretending to be female, because you can't tell.

    You need to put a little more effort into your research. Simply writing a few forum posts and kicking back to collect the data is not, in my opinion, dedicated thesis development.

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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    From a statistics standpoint, this is the absolute worst way to carry out a survey. The results would be completely invalid in any sort of professional setting.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    cloudeagle wrote:
    (Despite the relatively high IQ of this forum, chicks still get flooded with PMs from horny guys.)
    Really? The worst I've gotten was yalborap being creepy, and that was in public view.

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  • Bew! Bew! Bew!Bew! Bew! Bew! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pancake wrote:
    cloudeagle wrote:
    (Despite the relatively high IQ of this forum, chicks still get flooded with PMs from horny guys.)
    Really? The worst I've gotten was yalborap being creepy, and that was in public view.

    omg ur a gurl? where do u liev? keke

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  • EffStarStarStarEffStarStarStar Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    7. if you could change the ways that games were marketed to women, or perhaps in a more unisexed manner like the wii/DS, what would you change about it and why?

    Even if this is based on what you believe to be the opinions of some other demographic, this is an extremely leading question. It asks the question 'what would you change about the way that games are marketed to women' which explicitly stating "the Wii/DS are marketed in a more unisexed manner", implicitly stating "a more unisexed manner is perhaps better", and implicitly stating "the way games are marketed to women should be changed". You should learn to avoid putting things like that in a question that is meant to get information on someone's opinion, because the way that the question is phrased can definitely change the answer that they give.

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  • NaloutoNalouto Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Remember when people used to post topics that weren't just about getting a project done?

    Free WoW gold guys! cheapest prices!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    1. How long have you been a video game player? 17 yearsish

    2. What kind of games do you like playing? Why and examples? RPGs, action type stuff. WoW and Smash Bros. being examples.

    3. What kind of games do you DISLIKE playing? Why and examples? First person shooters like Halo. ick.

    4. Which consoles do you own and why? Why not the others? Wii, PS2, Gamecube. Who doesn't own a PS2? And the wii was the cheapest (and neatest) option available.

    5. do you agree, that the video game industry uses exploitation unneccessairly in both games AND advertising in order to get an easy and wide market? and if so how does that make you feel? Exploitation? You mean like, of women? Who doesn't?

    6. how do you feel about nintendo and sony using the colour pink on their consoles to attract a female audience? Capitalism works?

    7. if you could change the ways that games were marketed to women, or perhaps in a more unisexed manner like the wii/DS, what would you change about it and why? Uh, why do women need special treatment? We're equals, we don't need pandering!

    Now some aesthetic (what appeals to you) based questions. Try and give as many examples as you can

    8. What do you like to look at? (imagery, certain films, colour schemes, tv programs, cartoons, anything else) Give examples generously Matching colors, dramas, comedies, good stories, etc.

    9. What do you NOT LIKE to look at? (Same as above but opposite if you catch my drift) Bad colors, jagged graphics, horrible writing

    10. Which cultures visually appeal to you? Could be a countries culture and its colours , a kind of sub culture like the metal scene.. anything you want and as many examples that suit you. Gamer (duh!) and the Japanese. I'm going to move to Japan one day, because I think it's so neat how their culture does stuff!

    11. and finally, who are some of your favourite artists/illustrators/idols or just some people who's image you like? I like the guy who plays house, that stubble is dreamy :3

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  • Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Do transsexuals count?

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Recoil42 wrote:
    Do transsexuals count?

    We are on the same level, my friend.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Isn't this kind of shillery against the ToS or forum rules?

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I am a girl, tee hee.

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