All-Star Bitching Thread: BT3

TexiKen

Lo, from the keyboard of Geebs, brought down to the GV'ers of old:

Geebs wrote:

Hey, do you hate when comics are bad? Disappointed by something? Want to talk about it? Do it here. Keep it out of the other threads. This is where you can vent, and warn others about what you don't like.

This is where you can be angry and make bad jokes and whatever. If I see bad jokes and anger and stupid nonsense in other threads, I'll probably infract you. If you want to discuss problems you have with the subject of a thread in that thread, you can, but I'm going to expect you to be civil about it.

This is especially true for the moment of the week thread. Those threads are for highlights. If you want to bitch about something in there, well, I'm not going to have much tolerance for it.

Oh and side note, the phrase "moment of the weak" is stupid and you should feel stupid for using it.

And yea, how we shall make fun of those demons known as Greg Land, Spider-Man, DC Editiorial, Tom Brevoort, and heretics to the name of USAgent. Bitching be with you.

Furu

Man. Comics.

Solar

Fucking DC Trades. They fill me with a seething RAGE.

Hensler

Well, a new thread means I'll bitch about the same thing I did in the other bitching threads: Horribly screwing up a military uniform. The most recent example was when Rhodey showed up at Tony's hospital bed in Invicible Iron Man. He was wearing some horrible abomination of a mixture between Army and Marine Corps Dress (Rhodey was a Marine), with 4 star General insignia and a bunch of made up and improperly displayed medals. But they call him a light colonel, on the same page. It just annoys the crap out of me, when an artist could do a 10 second Google image search and see some proper rank insignia or a uniform.

Also worth bitching about: When an artist shows a gun firing an intact bullet, instead of just the slug.

spookymuffin

I thought Rhodes was in the Air Force.

Hensler

spookymuffin wrote: »

I thought Rhodes was in the Air Force.

Just in the movie, unless they've retconned it. He was a Marine in Vietnam when he first showed up.

Lucascraft

Tex, it should be spelled "And yea" in the second part of your post if you're going for old English. "And yay" makes it sound like you're happy.

TexiKen

I'm Old Spice. Correction noted, Professor

spookymuffin

Hensler wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

I thought Rhodes was in the Air Force.

Just in the movie, unless they've retconned it. He was a Marine in Vietnam when he first showed up.

By gum, you're right. It makes more sense for him to be in the Air Force, so I never really thought about it.

Wildcat

TexiKen wrote: »

I'm Old Spice. Correction noted, Professor

Respect my language, colonist

The Lovely Bastard

with that attitude see if we save your asses in world war III again wildcat

TexiKen

Wildcat you all in Australia are like USA's little brother, don't side with the devil. Come on, Lleyton Hewitt and Patrick Rafter and Kylie Minogue and Sydney Opera House!

Lucascraft

Why don't we have any state themed super heroes? Like Kansas Man, or the Texas Avenger? Or Captain California and his sidekick Nevada Boy?

spookymuffin

We probably do in the Initiative, but that doesn't matter now.

TexiKen

There should be someone called Texas Ranger, not just an Initiative team. He would have the ability to see any wrong you do.

spookymuffin

Chuck Norris would probably roundhouse him and anyone else who reads that comic.

TexiKen

No, see, the power the real hero would have ties into his theme song so it's all groovy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1tIpE95kc&feature=related

Crimsondude

It's no coincidence that the last bitching thread and the end of dark reign both hit 100 pages on the same day.

Oh, and Comics. Man.

The Lovely Bastard

no

no chuck norris jokes

BAD INTERNET

BAD

spookymuffin

He said Texas Ranger. There was no other possible series of events there.

DouglasDanger

Four dollar single issues piss me off.

Lucascraft

Unless of course he was talking about a ranger like Aragorn who also happens to live in Texas, and is not named Chuck or Charles.

Wildcat

TexiKen wrote: »

Wildcat you all in Australia are like USA's little brother, don't side with the devil. Come on, Lleyton Hewitt and Patrick Rafter and Kylie Minogue and Sydney Opera House!

Man you are like a quarter of a hemisphere away from where I live

I do not come from a land Down Under
I come from the land of, erm, Maureen Raven and, erm, no I don't think Siryn counts

Elvis Aint Dead

DouglasDanger wrote: »

Four dollar single issues piss me off.

My favourites are the 4 dollar ones where it's a regular 3 dollar sized issue with a preview of a different comic at the end.

TexiKen

Wildcat wrote: »

TexiKen wrote: »

Wildcat you all in Australia are like USA's little brother, don't side with the devil. Come on, Lleyton Hewitt and Patrick Rafter and Kylie Minogue and Sydney Opera House!

Man you are like a quarter of a hemisphere away from where I live

I do not come from a land Down Under
I come from the land of, erm, Maureen Raven and, erm, no I don't think Siryn counts

I thought you and Virral were our Aussie contingent.

My whole world is upside down, like the way you guys say aluminum.

cshadow42

X-Women looks like exploitive cheesecake. Because nothing says 'female empowerment' like a dental floss swimsuit. Seriously...artists need to get it through their heads that clothing can be sexier than nudity.

And Texas does have a superhero: the Texas Twister. He even served in the Thunderbolts in order to pay back people for all the homes he destroyed while he was drunk.

desc

Elvis Aint Dead wrote: »

DouglasDanger wrote: »

Four dollar single issues piss me off.

My favourites are the 4 dollar ones where it's a regular 3 dollar sized issue with a preview of a different comic at the end.

Hey, a couple of pages of a shitty book I'll never read tacked on at the end. Thanks!

Crimsondude

cshadow42 wrote: »

X-Women looks like exploitive cheesecake. Because nothing says 'female empowerment' like a dental floss swimsuit. Seriously...artists need to get it through their heads that clothing can be sexier than nudity.

For the story of "X-Women," a major driving factor in deciding what kind of story Claremont would tell came from the selection of Manara, who's best known for his erotic work in Europe. And while "X-Women" doesn't fall into that category, the writer had no problems finding a way to tell a story with his characters that fit the artist's strengths.

God damn it, Chris.

TexiKen

They will all be brainwashed to make out with each other and then Storm will be forced to marry some dictator guy.

Fencingsax

Too be fair, Colleen Coover was an erotic artist as well, and her X-Men First Class Backups were pretty good.

TexiKen

I'm not worried about the artist, because of Coover like you wrote Sax, as well as Guillem March's art being very good for GC Sirens.

It's more that Claremont loves to write strong women, women so strong they have to kiss one another on a beach.

Munch

Actually, a ton of mainstream artists worked for Penthouse Comics back in the day. Kevin Maguire, Adam Hughes, and Terry Dodson, are some that spring readily to mind, but there were a lot more.

The Lovely Bastard

munch draw me some penthouse comics featuring man-thing/swamp thing slash fiction

Robos A Go Go

Yeah, "Claremont" is more of a deal-breaker for me than "porn artist".

And now I want to read Colleen Coover's porn. I bet it's all funny and whimsical.

Munch

TLB, can I just go in my back yard, kick some yard waste into a pile, and snap a picture of it?

And Robos, her porn stuff was Small Favors, and involved magical realms and pixies. So yes, it was very whimsical and funny.

The Lovely Bastard

no munch you cannot do that

Hensler

At least in the 90's, Marvel was upfront with their cheesecake books - remember the old Marvel Swimsuit Specials?

cshadow42

Shel Silverstein (Where the Sidewalk Ends) used to draw comics for Playboy.

Crimsondude

Yeah, yeah.

But the bolded part of this quote is swell. The second sucks.

Oh...and along the way there's romance, pirates, severed heads galore, action-adventure and a magnificent sequence where Rogue discovers a skill for being a den mother/babysitter and doing lots of ironing. And Betsy discovers that she has a knack for feeding pigs."

Greg Rucka from WonderCon about what he'd change:

So what would I change about it? I don't know. I'd make [comics] cheaper. And actually, no -- you know what the real answer is? I'd get them out of specialty stores. I'd put comics back in the spinner racks and 7-Elevens and grocery stores and Walmart. That's what's killing us.

I hate comic stores. I hated then in the 80s, and I hate them now (mostly since they are the same stores run by the same jackasses I couldn't stand then because "Lobo is cool") and like gaming stores they just effing suck. One of these days I'm going to go all-in to buy stuff online, but I haven't and that's my own idiocy. Still, he's right.

I like to think Disney especially would be hell-bent on wringing revenue out of Marvel (aside from putting some of their comics on the largest shareholder's newest toy) besides using it as an IP factory because, honestly, there is no point in continuing to publish new comics if that's the goal because comics in other media almost always are so limited to the core/canon of characters and franchises that I don't see the point in spending money on stories that would never get translated to different media.

DouglasDanger

Crimsondude wrote: »

cshadow42 wrote: »

X-Women looks like exploitive cheesecake. Because nothing says 'female empowerment' like a dental floss swimsuit. Seriously...artists need to get it through their heads that clothing can be sexier than nudity.

For the story of "X-Women," a major driving factor in deciding what kind of story Claremont would tell came from the selection of Manara, who's best known for his erotic work in Europe. And while "X-Women" doesn't fall into that category, the writer had no problems finding a way to tell a story with his characters that fit the artist's strengths.

God damn it, Chris.

Brandon Graham has shared Manara art on his lj before. Looks really nice.

Munch

The Lovely Bastard wrote:

no munch you cannot do that

Okay, second question: Does Swamp Thing know fear?