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AdrenalineAdrenaline Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
HESHER
n.

1. See also Butt Rocker.

2. Any form of rock music and / or listener, sporting a mullet, eye makeup, hairspray, tight acid washed jeans and hi-top Reeboks.

Welcome to the Grand Battalion Nekrokreuz Sigma Save the Avanc Bakesale: Convocation at Tain Hollow (aka let's talk about cool music and satan and stuff). You may have entered a hesher, but you'll leave on a screaming motorcycle driven by wings of liquid fire. From hell.

From the Dust Returned
Our own beloved autothrall's music blog, in which other thread members occasionally appear.

Year's End 2009 Top Lists:
Autothrall's Top 20 Metal Albums of 2009
01. Oranssi Pazuzu (Finland) - Muukalainen Puhuu
02. Arckanum (Sweden) - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
03. Onirik (Portugal) - After Centuries of Silence
04. Nokturnal Mortum (Ukraine) - The Voice of Steel
05. Midnight Odyssey (Australia) - Firmament
06. Klabautamann (Germany) - Merkur
07. Nazxul (Australia) - Iconoclast
08. Sólstafir (Iceland) - Köld
09. De Magia Veterum (Netherlands) - Migda Bavel
10. Blut Aus Nord (France) - Memoria Vetusta II
11. Tribulation (Sweden) - The Horror
12. Hellveto (Poland) - Od południa na północ
13. Xasthur (USA) - All Reflections Drained
14. Peste Noire (France) - Ballade Cuntre lo Anemi Francor
15. Insomnium (Finland) - Across the Dark
16. Abigail (Japan) - Sweet Baby Metal Slut
17. CSSABA (Poland) - Toxic Cssaba
18. Lost Soul (Poland) - Immerse in Infinity
19. Kreator (Germany) - Hordes of Chaos
20.Katatonia (Sweden) - Night is the New Day
21-100: 2009 Extended Buyers' Guide (i.e., Autothrall's Top 100 Metal Albums of 2009, or to quote Paul Harvey, "The Rest of the Story")

Ranxxerox's Best of 2009
- Absu (US) - Absu
- Arckanum (SE) - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
- Blut aus Nord (FR) - Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars
- Khanate (US) - Clean Hands Go Foul
- Kylesa (US) - Static Tensions
- Ruins of Beverast (DE) - Foulest Semen of a Sheltered Elite
- Shrinebuilder (US) - Shrinebuilder
- Wolven Ancestry (CA) - Silence of the Boreal
- Xasthur (US) - All Reflections Drained

Frank Austin's Best of 2009
1) Immortal (Nor) - All Shall Fall
2) Propagandhi (Can) - Supporting Caste
3) Arckanum (Swe) - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
4) Anaal Nathrakh (UK) - In the Constellation of the Black Widow
5) Wardruna (Nor) - Gap Var Ginnunga
6) Kreator (Ger)- Hordes of Chaos
7) God Dethroned (Nld) - Passiondale
8) Fukpig (UK) - Spewings From A Selfish Nation
9) Horned Almighty (Ger) - Contaminating the Divine
10) Oranssi Pazuzu (Fin) - Muukalainen Puhuu

JD/Adrenaline's Top 20 Metal Albums of 2009
01 Insomnium - Across the Dark
02 Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
03 Blut Aus Nord - In Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars
04 Vektor - Black Future
05 Andacht - Chapter I
06 Klabautamann - Merkur
07 Katatonia - Night is the New Day
08 Scythian - To Those Who Stand Against Us
09 Peste Noire - Ballad Cuntre lo Anemi Francor
10 Tombs - Winter Hours
11 Mastodon - Crack the Skye
12 Portal - Swarth
13 Wodensthrone - Loss
14 Midnight Odyssey - Firmament
15 Nazxul - Iconoclast
16 Devious - Vision
17 Denial - Catacombs of the Grotesque
18 Funebrarum - Sleep of Morbid Dreams
19 Ekron Cult- Queen of the Luxury
20 Abigail - Sweet Baby Metal Slut

Narian's Best Metal Albums of 2009
01. Fleshgod Apocolaypse (It) - Oracles [Debut of the Year]
T2. Mastodon (US) - Crack the Skye
T2. Behemoth (Po) - Evangelion
04. Vader (Po) - Necropolis
05. Ensiferum (Fi) - From Afar
06. Vektor (US) - Black Future
07. Azarath (Po) - Praise the Beast
08. Hypocrisy (Se) - A Taste of Extreme Divinity
09. Cannibal Corpse (US) - Evisceration Plague
10. Slayer (US) - World Painted Blood
11. Naxzul (Au) - Iconoclast
12. Immortal (No) - All Shall Fall
13. Lost Soul (Po) - Immerse in Infinity
14. Devious (Nld) - Vision
15. Suidakra (De) - Crógacht
16. Be'lakor (Au) - Stone's Reach
17. Tribulation (Se) - The Horror
18. Savage Circus (De) - Of Doom & Death
19. Mistaken Element (Fr) - Mind Over Matter
20. Cobalt (US) - Gin
21. Arckanum (Se) - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
22. Insomnium (Fi) - Across the Dark
23. Týr (Fa) - By the Light of the Northern Star
24. Voivod (US) - Infini
25. Oranssi Pazuzu (Fi) - Muukalainen Puhuu

Candlemass's Best of 2009
Giant Squid - The Ichthyologist
Peste Noire - Ballade cuntre lo Anemi Francor
Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue with the Stars
Katatonia - Night is the New Day
Klaubatamann - Merkur

S0up's Sexy Time Top 10: Keeping it unmetal since 2007
01. Porcupine Tree - The Incident
01. Hypocrisy - A Taste Of Extreme Divinity
01. Devin Townsend - Addicted
04. Destroyer 666 - Defiance
05. Mastodon - Crack The Skye
06. Steven Wilson - Insurgentes
07. Devin Townsend - Ki
08. Vader - Necropolis
09. Katatonia - Night Is The New Day
10. Slayer - World Painted Blood

META METAL 09 OH YEAH
1. Klabautamann - Merkur
2. Insomnium - Across the Dark
3. Peste Noir - Ballade cuntre lo Anemi Francor
4. Midnight Odyssey - Firmament
5. Oranssi Pazuzu - Muukalainen Puhuu
6. De Magia Veterum - Migdal Bavel
7. Katatonia - Night is the New Day
8. Behemoth - Evangelion
9. Tribulation - The Horror
10. Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars
11. Xasthur - All Reflections Drained
12. Reverence - Inactive Theocracy
13. Vektor - Black Future
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel
15. Bergraven - Till Makabert Väsen
16. Immortal - All Shall Fall
17. Onirik - After Centuries of Silence
18. Sanctus Nex - Aurelia
19. Striborg - Perceiving the World With Hate
20. Funebrarum - The Sleep of Morbid Dreams

I N V I C T U S's Best of 2009
Arckanum - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
Altar of Plagues - White Tomb
Beherit - Engram
Excoriate - On Pestilent Winds
Maim - From the Womb to the Tomb
Ignivomous - Death Transmutation
The Chasm - Farseeing the Paranormal Abysm
Eagle Twin - The Unkindness of Crows
Slough Feg - Ape Uprising
Shrinebuilder - s/t
The Gates of Slumber - Hymns of Blood and Thunder

LoveIsUnity's Best of 2009
1) Katatonia - Night Is the New Day
2) Klabautamann - Merkur
3) Mastodon - Crack the Skye
4) Nile - Those Whom the Gods Detest
5) Napalm Death - Time Waits for No Slave
6) Behemoth - Evangelion
7) Paradise Lost - Faith Divides Us, Death Unites Us
8) Isole - Silent Ruins
9) Rhino - Dead Throne Monarch
10) Celeste - Misanthrope(s)

Yakul's Best of 2009
1. Nokturnal Mortum: The Voice of Steel
2. Klabautamann: Merkur
3. Abigail: Sweet Baby Metal Slut
4. Grave Digger: Ballad of a Hangman
5. Oranssi Pazuzu: Muukalainen Puhuu
6. Kreator: Hordes of Chaos
7. Demonical: Hellsworn
8. Senmuth: Madinat Al-Mayyit
9. Onirik: After Centuries of Silence
10. Savage Circus: Of Doom and Death

Crazy Larry's Best of 2009
Vektor - Black Future
Be'lakor - Stone's Reach
Paradise Lost - Faith Divides Us, Death Unites Us
Vader - Necropolis
Behemoth - Evangelion
Mystic Prophecy - Fireangel
Kreator - Hordes Of Chaos
Rudra - Brahmavidya: Transcendental I
Arkona - Goi, Rode, Goi!
Between The Buried And Me - The Great Misdirect
Bulldozer - Unexpected Fate
Grave Digger - Ballads Of A Hangman
Lonewolf - The Dark Crusade
Cobalt - Gin
Paradox - Riot Squad
Skeletonwitch - Breathing The Fire
Mastodon - Crack The Skye
Katatonia - Night Is The New Day
Rebellion - Arise - From Ginnungagap To Ragnarok - History Of The Vikings Part III
Ensiferum - From Afar

brorstein's Best of 2009
Fever Ray - Fever Ray
Eagle Twin - The Unkindness of Crows
Zu - Carboniferous
Klabautamann - Merkur
Ancestors - Of Sound Mind
The Chasm - Farseeing the Paranormal Abysm
Dinosaur Jr. - Farm
Brutal Truth - Evolution Through Revolution
Celeste - Misanthrope(s)
Future of the Left - Travels With Myself and Another
Narrows - New Distances
Volcano Choir - Unmap
Califone - All My Friends Are Funeral Singers
St. Vincent - Actor
Oranssi Pazuzu - Muukalainen Puhuu

L|ama's Best of 2009
10) Amesoeurs - Amesoeurs
9) Nazxul - Iconoclast
8) Týr - By The Light Of The Northern Star
7) Arkona - Goi, Rode, Goi!!!
6) Tormented - Rotten Death
5) Rebellion - Arise - The History Of The Vikings Part III
4) Mistur - Attende
3) Drudkh - Microcosmos
2) Nokturnal Mortum - Голос Сталі
1) Peste Noire - Ballade cuntre lo Anemi francor

Futt Bucker's Best of 2009
1. Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague
2. Peste Noire - Ballade cuntre lo Anemi francor
3. Klabautamann - Merkur
4. Nokturnal Mortum - Голос Сталі
5. Nile - Those Whom The Gods Detest
6. Obliteration - Nekropsalms
7. Voivod - Infini
8. Marduk - Wormwood
9. Empty - The House Of Funerary Hymns
10. Vader - Necropolis

Mgcw's Best of 2009
1. Oranssi Pazuzu - Muukalainen Puhuu
2. Hellveto - Od Poludnia na polnoc
3. Devin Townsend Project - Addicted
4. Insomnium - Across the Dark
5. Lost Soul - Immerse in Infinity
6. Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II
7. Voivod - Infini
8. Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague
9. Portal - Swarth
10. Katatonia - Night is the New Day

Morg's Top 20 Albums of 2009 That He Listned To More than A Few Times Each and Still Found Amazing Extravaganze List
1a.) Kreator - Hordes of Chaos
1b.) Scythian - To Those Who Stand Against Us...
2.) Funebrarum - The Sleep of Morbid Dreams
3.) Evile - Infected Nations
4.) Katatonia - Night Is the New Day
5.) Nile - Those Whom The Gods Detest
6.) Vektor - Black Future
7.) Behemoth - Evangelion
8.) Suffocation - Blood Oath
9.) Vader - Necropolis
10.) Pestilence - Resurection Macrabe
11.) Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague
12.) Voivod - Inifini
13.) Devin Townsend Project - Addicted
14.) Portal - Swarth
15.) Claws - Absorbed in the Nethervoid
16.) Marduk - Wormwood
17.) Drudkh - Microcosmos
18.) Cobalt - Gin
19.) Havok - Burn
20.) Expulsion - Wasteworld




Noteworthy 2010 releases:
Abigor - Time Is The Sulphur In The Veins Of The Saint
Abigor - Time Is The Sulphur In The Veins Of The Saint (Jan 18)
Aborym - TBA (?)
Accept - TBA (?)
Aeon - TBA (?)
Agalloch - TBA (?)
Angra - TBA (?)
Anthrax - Worship Music (?)
Blind Guardian - TBA (Late Summer/Early Fall)
Borknagar - Universal (Feb 22)
Brain Drill – Monumental Failure (?)
Burzum - Belus (Mar 8)
Children of Bodom - TBA (?)
Dark Fortress - Ylem (Jan 22)
Dark Trainquility - We are the Void (Feb/Mar)
Darkane - TBA (?)
Darkthrone - TBA (?)
Decapitated - TBA (?)
Detente - Decline (?)
Dimmu Borgir - TBA (?)
Dornenreich – Flammentriebe (?)
Devin Townsend - Deconstruction (May)
Finntroll - Nifelvind (Feb 17)
Gamma Ray - To the Metal (Jan 29)
High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine (Feb/Mar)
Ihsahn - After (Jan 25)
Immolation - Majesty and Decay (Mar 9)
Iron Maiden - TBA (?)
Kalmah - TBA (?)
Keep of Kalessin - Reptilian (?)
Melechesh - TBA (?)
Motorhead - TBA (?)
Necrophagist - TBA (?)
Negură Bunget - Vîrstele pămîntului (Mar)
Rage - Strings to a Web (Feb 5)
Rhapsody of Fire - The Frozen Tears of Angels (Mar 5)
Rotting Christ - Aealo ( Feb 15)
Rush - TBA (?)
Saxon - TBA (?)
Septic Flesh - TBA (?)
Shining – Shining VII: Född Förlorare (Mar/Apr)
Sigh - Scenes from Hell (Jan 19)
Soilwork - TBA (?)
Spawn of Posession - TBA (?)
Testament - TBA (?)
The Sword - TBA (?)
The Vision Bleak - Set Sail to Mystery (Jan)
Tub Ring - TBA (?)
Vintersorg - TBA (Late 2010)
There is a rumor that Faith No More is gearing up for a new studio album, and we are all still holding our dicks in anticipation of new Summoning.



Some basic guidelines for people just joining up with us:
  • we know that dethklok are the brutalest
  • we know that Dragonforce are the noodliest
  • we know that Opeth is some craaaazy shit, dog
  • we do, in fact, not look down upon Between the Buried and Me
  • we do, in fact, look down harshly upon Killswitch Engage

Please keep in mind - kvlties just wanna have fun. If you can dig that, bring your black leather and come masturbate with us to the butteriest riffs this side of the gulf of Darien.

Let's not forget those that came before!
PA.fm 2007 review thread
Our first community review blog
July 06 to April 07
June to December 08
January 09 to May 09
May 09 to December 09
December 09 to May 10

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    If I'm bored tomorrow I'll update the 'noteworthy 2010 releases', instead of still having Darkthrone - TBA :P

    L|ama on
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Bolt Thrower and Rotting Christ tonight. Guess whose rather excited.....

    Tav on
  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I live about two miles from one of the best metal clubs of all ever, so every once in a while me and a metric fuckton of friends will get together and party there until we all "smell like cigarettes and butthole by the end of the night" as one friend put it. And covered in bruises from all the fucking moshing. My friend's band is actually playing there on the 15th, so with any luck I might just go.

    Mortal Sky on
  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    Mgcw on
  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Seeing God Dethroned, Vader, and Overkill = Awesome

    Finding out there was an unexploded bomb two blocks away making my walk back to the train station long, panicky and sweaty and just barely making my train = Slightly less awesome

    Futt Bucker on
    My color is black to the blind
  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.
    Yeah, I was slightly intrigued to see it comes out this month, but the teaser mix totally turned me off. Maybe they just highlighted the worst parts :P

    Futt, just think of it as all the metal awesome kept the bomb from going off. Glad you're ok, though.

    Anyone check out the new Master? I love how Speckmann sounds like his tongue is numb half the time.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0RvrS6rO08

    METAzraeL on

    dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
    sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Not something I'd listen to over and over, definitely capable, though. The album cover is really fuckin' cool, that's for sure.
    Tav wrote: »
    Bolt Thrower and Rotting Christ tonight. Guess whose rather excited.....

    Whose rather excited indeed, I swear it's not mine!

    Mgcw on
  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    This makes me angry. I was really looking forward to a new Nevermore album. I'll have to track this down and check it out myself. I'll be pissed off the rest of the year if the album sucks.

    Bolthorn on
  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I saw from the tracklisting that Nevermore is doing a cover of The Tea Party's song "Temptation". I mean, the Melechesh cover of "Gyroscope" is alright and all, but do we really need a Nevermore version of a different song? Warrel's voice is already pretty close to the guy's in that song. I don't know, I never really understood cover songs or "bonus tracks".

    Mgcw on
  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    This makes me angry. I was really looking forward to a new Nevermore album. I'll have to track this down and check it out myself. I'll be pissed off the rest of the year if the album sucks.

    All I've heard is the instrumental version of the title track and it sounds pretty good, so I don't know what you guys are talking about.

    Crazy Larry on
  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgeUKIKxbOo

    It might just be the juxtaposition of the tracks, but each part feels really hollow and unappealing.

    whoa, what, this is official?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzuxkkGyWQ

    METAzraeL on

    dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
    sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Okay, that admittedly does sound a little lackluster. I'm going to chalk it up to poor choice of samples and the way they run together. The full length version of the title track (sans vocals) sounds just fine, although I wouldn't say it's among there best work.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQqsVE0ZK7A

    Crazy Larry on
  • MorgensternMorgenstern ICH BIN DER PESTVOGEL DU KAMPFAFFE!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I like the new Barren Earth.

    Fuck you and your mothers.

    Morgenstern on
    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    BT brought out the bro brigade and the entire crowd was full of drunken idiots who were hell bent on stage diving every two fucking seconds. I was so disappointed that the atmosphere turned to shit for BT because the four bands before hand made it one of the best gigs I've ever been to. Two of the local supports were absolutely fantastic (For Ruin and Morphosis), and the other band (Overoth) were fun to nod along to. I probably would of enjoyed Overoth more if I hadn't seen them play a shit set in a dive bar last week. Rotting Christ were fantastic and brought the crowd alive. Nemhteanga from Primordial came out and did two songs with them too, which really raised the roof.

    Pics to follow...

    Tav on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So does Nemtheanga just go to every metal gig in Ireland or what

    L|ama on
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Unless they bring Phil Lynott back from the dead, he's the most well known personality in Irish metal... He's pretty much guaranteed to get any crowd going.

    So that's a yes.

    Tav on
  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Huh, For Ruin are still around? I remember their first two ep's, didn't know they kept going after that.

    METAzraeL on

    dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
    sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
  • BlakoutBlakout Lordran's SpookylandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

    Blakout on
  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    New Amestigon album, with Silenius vocals. Some of the songs are decent, the rest dull.

    autothrall on
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Blakout wrote: »
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

    Dick

    when I saw them they only played stuff off Fortress

    :(

    Tav on
  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    New thread smell.
    Is that brimstone?

    Rhan9 on
  • BlakoutBlakout Lordran's SpookylandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Tav wrote: »
    Blakout wrote: »
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

    Dick

    when I saw them they only played stuff off Fortress

    :(

    Which is what I was expecting. Instead I got abou half of Fortress plus Blindfolds Aside, Bury the Hatchet, Turn Soonest to the Sea, and Heretics and Killers. Really the only thing I was hoping for and didn't get was The Divine Suicide of K.

    Blakout on
  • MorgensternMorgenstern ICH BIN DER PESTVOGEL DU KAMPFAFFE!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Review for the Barren Earth debut is almost done.

    9/10 for sure.

    Morgenstern on
    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern ICH BIN DER PESTVOGEL DU KAMPFAFFE!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    autothrall wrote: »
    Oh yeah, better than the EP? I didn't care for it.

    I think it's the equivalent to if Opeth released an album after Blackwater Park that didn't veer off in the direction of sub-par output.

    I'm definitely not saying it's as good as Blackwater Park, but at least it's got a set of qualities of a similiar vein.

    Morgenstern on
    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
  • AdrenalineAdrenaline Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.
    Evoken, Ahab - The Call of the Wretched Sea, early Tiamat, Paradise Lost, Saint Vitus, Trouble, and of course Sleep

    Adrenaline on
    I will show you fear in a handful of dust
  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.

    Here are a couple classic bands for you:

    Trouble (everything up to and including Manic Frustration)
    Pentagram (USA, first three albums)
    Cirith Ungol
    Count Raven (almost all of them)
    St. Vitus (ditto)
    Paradise Lost (Lost Paradise, Gothic and Icon)

    And some newer shite:

    The Wounded Kings!
    Hooded Menace (great death/doom)
    Reverend Bizarre
    Isole
    Burning Witch

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern ICH BIN DER PESTVOGEL DU KAMPFAFFE!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Also, lump Altars of Oblivion into the newer shite category.

    Morgenstern on
    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I was researching the all-time highest selling 'extreme metal' albums, by which I mean metal harder than classic heavy metal/hard rock, and I was staggered by the top 2 results, not by the band, but the numbers.

    'The Black Album' - 15 million copies sold...
    'And Justice for All' - 8 million copies sold...
    'Master of Puppets' - 6 million copies sold...
    'Ride the Lightning' - 5 million copies sold...
    'Kill 'Em All' - 3 million copies sold...

    Hot damn.

    I won't even factor in the albums post-1991.

    By comparison...

    'Countdown to Extinction' - 2 million copies in the US alone, and Megadeth has some other platinum albums.
    'Screaming for Vengeance' by Judas Priest, 2 million copies in the US alone (they've got some others that are platinum also)
    'Vulgar Display of Power' - 2 million copies in the US, highest selling album by Pantera.
    'Number of the Beast', 'Powerslave', 'Piece of Mind', 'Somewhere in Time' - 1 million copies each in the US (probably 2 million each worldwide).
    'Reign in Blood' - somewhere between 500k and 1 million copies in the US.
    Anthrax has a couple gold albums.

    All before the download age. Interesting.

    I was going to tally in a few of the more popular metalcore bands of today, but to be fair it'd be skewed and crippled by downloading.

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  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    wouldnt you include Type O Negative? I mean Bloody Kisses did 1 Million. After having searched can't see many others who have sold alot. Not to mention the first 4 Metallica prolly only broke the million mark post black album.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    wouldnt you include Type O Negative? I mean Bloody Kisses did 1 Million. After having searched can't see many others who have sold alot.

    Certainly. So that must put Type O Negative at the highest selling gothic metal artist of all time!
    Not to mention the first 4 Metallica prolly only broke the million mark post black album.

    Incorrect.

    'And Justice for All' and 'Master of Puppets' both went platinum in 1988.
    'Ride the Lightning' went platinum in 1989.
    'Kill 'Em All' went platinum in 1991 BEFORE the 'Black Album' came out in the summer.

    And those were all THRASH METAL albums. No rock & roll lesbians or 'Whiskey in a Jar'.

    'Load' & 'Reload' combined have done about 9 million, considerably less than the 'Black Album'. Surprise, surprise, it seems most people DID have taste after all (though downloading did play a part in the late 90s).

    Yeah, they were always popular :D and once upon a time, for a damn good reason.


    I should look up Biohazard. Weren't they hot shit for awhile? Still one of my dumb guilty pleasures.

    As for death metal, the numbers are much lower. Cannibal Corpse seems to be the highest selling overall, probably a few million now, which makes sense, with some chart toppers also by Morbid Angel, Deicide, Obituary.

    Checking on black metal...must be Cradle of Filth, considering that almost all their albums have charted in the UK and the past 4 charted here in the US.

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Huh, that's all pretty interesting.

    I'm always amazed when I see numbers now and something like 5000 albums is enough to land you on the charts. That always baffles me. Has it always been that way, or has downloading affected record sales that badly?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Any suggestions on atmospheric, very minor-key folk-influenced metal? I have no bias against keyboard instruments.

    EDIT: I'm thinking the metal version of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAOrjgIfbg

    DOUBLE EDIT: Although I probably prefer this version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXOJwGO9sEg

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  • yakulyakul Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The numbers are surprisingly low to me

    Although I guess 1 percent of the population owning Kill Em All is significant

    15 Mil for what is probably the most popular heavy metal/rock album of the 90s? I wonder how many times Enter Sandman has been purchased on itunes

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Any suggestions on atmospheric, very minor-key folk-influenced metal? I have no bias against keyboard instruments.
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8mWH7reefQ

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Huh, that's all pretty interesting.

    I'm always amazed when I see numbers now and something like 5000 albums is enough to land you on the charts. That always baffles me. Has it always been that way, or has downloading affected record sales that badly?

    Downloading has enormously affected sales, which is why you'll occasionally see a metalcore album, which doesn't sell all that much (Shadows Fall, Killswitch, etc) hit the top 10-20 on Billboard, if only for a week of solid sales in the 1000s or tens of 1000s.

    I believe the Metallica numbers were worldwide, Kiel. If Kill 'Em All were owned by 1% of all human beings on Earth, I would have my thrash planet victory.

    Then again, that doesn't account for downloads...so who knows :D

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!
    Well crap, if Lifelover doesn't do that for you, I dunno.

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!

    I know they get a lot of flak around here, but maybe Agalloch? The first two Evereve albums maybe?

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