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An Idea About Jailed People

Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
Can mods/deputies be granted the ability to put in a remark on why that person is jailed? Just a brief yiddly-biddly is ok, right next to the name of the person who jailed and the time of jailing.

I think that would do wonders for the system. Props to alpha if it is already on the "Top 50 things I need to code" list.

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    StoverStover Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    Could just make a new field for it under location.

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    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    omg. . .I just lost all of what I typed to a server fart. . .(pressing back took me to a blank text field).

    Anyways, I was saying this was a good idea since it helps the jailed person figure out why they were jaield without making a bunch of "omgwtf am I jailed for??" posts/PMs and other people can know if they are trustable or not.

    Ex: Jailed person gives advice in H/A forum. Is it for real advice or just trolling? One who doesn't know the answer to the question wouldn't know. But they might get a better idea of the person's credibility if they knew that person was jailed for bad advice or trolling.

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    LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    KungFu wrote:
    omg. . .I just lost all of what I typed to a server fart. . .(pressing back took me to a blank text field).

    Anyways, I was saying this was a good idea since it helps the jailed person figure out why they were jaield without making a bunch of "omgwtf am I jailed for??" posts/PMs and other people can know if they are trustable or not.

    Ex: Jailed person gives advice in H/A forum. Is it for real advice or just trolling? One who doesn't know the answer to the question wouldn't know. But they might get a better idea of the person's credibility if they knew that person was jailed for bad advice or trolling.

    Like...a history of all the times they've been jailed/temp-banned and a reason why in another page in their profile?

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    KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    Legacy wrote:
    KungFu wrote:
    omg. . .I just lost all of what I typed to a server fart. . .(pressing back took me to a blank text field).

    Anyways, I was saying this was a good idea since it helps the jailed person figure out why they were jaield without making a bunch of "omgwtf am I jailed for??" posts/PMs and other people can know if they are trustable or not.

    Ex: Jailed person gives advice in H/A forum. Is it for real advice or just trolling? One who doesn't know the answer to the question wouldn't know. But they might get a better idea of the person's credibility if they knew that person was jailed for bad advice or trolling.

    Like...a history of all the times they've been jailed/temp-banned and a reason why in another page in their profile?

    Exactly.

    That. . .doesn't exist already does it? :oops:

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    In the Deputy forum we have a "who I jailed" thread. Doesnt help you guys out much though :P

    I have an idea, but it requires a lot of work (as do all my ideas) so for now the answer is no. Once I finish my syndication and permissions rewrite, then I will look at redoing jail.

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    LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    KungFu wrote:
    Legacy wrote:
    KungFu wrote:
    omg. . .I just lost all of what I typed to a server fart. . .(pressing back took me to a blank text field).

    Anyways, I was saying this was a good idea since it helps the jailed person figure out why they were jaield without making a bunch of "omgwtf am I jailed for??" posts/PMs and other people can know if they are trustable or not.

    Ex: Jailed person gives advice in H/A forum. Is it for real advice or just trolling? One who doesn't know the answer to the question wouldn't know. But they might get a better idea of the person's credibility if they knew that person was jailed for bad advice or trolling.

    Like...a history of all the times they've been jailed/temp-banned and a reason why in another page in their profile?

    Exactly.

    That. . .doesn't exist already does it? :oops:

    No...but there is the "Announcing who is Banned" thread...

    But that takes a bit to look through and doesn't always have jailings in there, unless they were done by a mod.

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    KungFu wrote:
    Exactly.

    That. . .doesn't exist already does it? :oops:
    It exists to Deni and I but thats about it...

    I will get something done, but it will require me to add stuff to the database, and that takes effort.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    In the Deputy forum we have a "who I jailed" thread. Doesnt help you guys out much though :P

    I have an idea, but it requires a lot of work (as do all my ideas) so for now the answer is no. Once I finish my syndication and permissions rewrite, then I will look at redoing jail.

    Can you have a 'Who I Jailed' thread here then? I would just like to have some idea of why a person is jailed.

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    LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    In the Deputy forum we have a "who I jailed" thread. Doesnt help you guys out much though :P

    I have an idea, but it requires a lot of work (as do all my ideas) so for now the answer is no. Once I finish my syndication and permissions rewrite, then I will look at redoing jail.

    Can you have a 'Who I Jailed' thread here then? I would just like to have some idea of why a person is jailed.

    There wouldn't be a way for it to stay clean though...Deputies can't post in locked threads, so it'd have to be unlocked...

    And you know what kinda trouble that would bring...

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    Legacy wrote:
    In the Deputy forum we have a "who I jailed" thread. Doesnt help you guys out much though :P

    I have an idea, but it requires a lot of work (as do all my ideas) so for now the answer is no. Once I finish my syndication and permissions rewrite, then I will look at redoing jail.

    Can you have a 'Who I Jailed' thread here then? I would just like to have some idea of why a person is jailed.

    There wouldn't be a way for it to stay clean though...Deputies can't post in locked threads, so it'd have to be unlocked...

    And you know what kinda trouble that would bring...

    Giving mod lite abilities to the deputy group would allow them to post in their thread. They already have a lot of trust on them with the jail power, so I think that allowing them to post in a locked thread here wouldn't cause much of a rukus.

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    LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    Legacy wrote:
    In the Deputy forum we have a "who I jailed" thread. Doesnt help you guys out much though :P

    I have an idea, but it requires a lot of work (as do all my ideas) so for now the answer is no. Once I finish my syndication and permissions rewrite, then I will look at redoing jail.

    Can you have a 'Who I Jailed' thread here then? I would just like to have some idea of why a person is jailed.

    There wouldn't be a way for it to stay clean though...Deputies can't post in locked threads, so it'd have to be unlocked...

    And you know what kinda trouble that would bring...

    Giving mod lite abilities to the deputy group would allow them to post in their thread. They already have a lot of trust on them with the jail power, so I think that allowing them to post in a locked thread here wouldn't cause much of a rukus.

    Ahh yes. :^: Tricky...

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    Can you have a 'Who I Jailed' thread here then? I would just like to have some idea of why a person is jailed.

    <snip>

    Giving mod lite abilities to the deputy group would allow them to post in their thread. They already have a lot of trust on them with the jail power, so I think that allowing them to post in a locked thread here wouldn't cause much of a rukus.
    Thats something for Deni to decide. :wink:

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    I honestly don't see a reason for it. I appreaciate your desire to know every little detail that occurs on the board but you are asking a lot of people that are volunteers. Plus, jailing is something that should be fairly temporary, happens much more frequently than banning and is much less permanent.

    Now, I think a mod/deputy should pm a regular user if they have jailed them or at the very least explain why they did it in the problematic thread. Anymore than that seems excessive.

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    denihilist wrote:
    I honestly don't see a reason for it. I appreaciate your desire to know every little detail that occurs on the board but you are asking a lot of people that are volunteers. Plus, jailing is something that should be fairly temporary, happens much more frequently than banning and is much less permanent.

    Now, I think a mod/deputy should pm a regular user if they have jailed them or at the very least explain why they did it in the problematic thread. Anymore than that seems excessive.
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    OrthancOrthanc Death Lite, Only 1 Calorie Off the end of the internet, just turn left.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    My general policy is I post in the thread where I jail someone.

    It says in their profile who they were jailed by so if they miss that they can always PM whoever jailed them.

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    EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    There should be a way to see how many days are left on your sentence.

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    OrthancOrthanc Death Lite, Only 1 Calorie Off the end of the internet, just turn left.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    The sentance isn't automatic. You are unjailed when someone decideds to unjail you, so there is no way to tell how long is left short of asking whoever jailed you

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    EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited April 2004
    That means forever then. I'm never talking to that racist motherfucker.

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    OrthancOrthanc Death Lite, Only 1 Calorie Off the end of the internet, just turn left.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    Considering the spam you were posring in SE, I'm surprised you didn't get temp banned.

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    Why not just add a description section to the user's profile, like 500 character or 1000 character limit. When a mod/deputy/goat jails someone, they just erase whatever's there and post a link to why, or a super short explanation. When the person comes out of jail they can re-type their shit.

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    apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    pheezer wrote:
    Why not just add a description section to the user's profile, like 500 character or 1000 character limit. When a mod/deputy/goat jails someone, they just erase whatever's there and post a link to why, or a super short explanation. When the person comes out of jail they can re-type their shit.

    I think a Mod/Deputy only viewable/editable region is better, as it would allow a keeping of historical information.

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    apotheos wrote:
    pheezer wrote:
    Why not just add a description section to the user's profile, like 500 character or 1000 character limit. When a mod/deputy/goat jails someone, they just erase whatever's there and post a link to why, or a super short explanation. When the person comes out of jail they can re-type their shit.

    I think a Mod/Deputy only viewable/editable region is better, as it would allow a keeping of historical information.

    See, I think that'd be overdoing it again. Everyone knows who the repeat offenders are, and a little inter-mod communication makes that tool kind of obsolete.

    If however, it was posted in a user's profile just a quick "Jailed for highsticking - 3 days", with or without the 3 days part tagged on if the mod/deputy/cat isn't sure, then there'd be less confusion in general, for a lot of people. Which is a good think. Like look with EskimoDave: the question as to why he's jailed has been asked like eleventeen hojillion times in public by him and everyone else.

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    It's all over done honestly. I looked at our jail logs and the only people that have over 5 days are trolls that were jailed and never came back. The mods are really good about releasing people.

    If you look in the jailed person's profile you can find out when they were jailed and who did it. I don't think the general populace needs more than that.

    EskimoDave was jailed by boddah. He can PM boddah to find out. That's standard operating procedure.

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    denihilist wrote:
    It's all over done honestly. I looked at our jail logs and the only people that have over 5 days are trolls that were jailed and never came back. The mods are really good about releasing people.

    If you look in the jailed person's profile you can find out when they were jailed and who did it. I don't think the general populace needs more than that.

    EskimoDave was jailed by boddah. He can PM boddah to find out. That's standard operating procedure.

    See, but the thing is we're all desperate to be directly responsible for a large change to the phorum so we can be all proud of ourselves.

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    Just as an FYI it looks like he was making a bunch of moron threads that boddah kept locking and he didn't get the hint.

    That took me about 5 minutes to figure out, without looking at any mod tools. Much less time than was spent in this thread in general which leaves me thinking I'm right.

    If you're really curious you can figure it out.

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    pheezer wrote:
    See, but the thing is we're all desperate to be directly responsible for a large change to the phorum so we can be all proud of ourselves.

    Don't tell anyone, but you're my favorite.

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    bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    See, I kind of gathered that from looking at the SE index trying to figure out what could possibly have possessed boddah to pitch his trash over the fence. Conclusion: boddah's a jerk.

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    hey hey hey

    boddah is jesus. you're going to get your card pulled.

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    bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    If thinking boddah's a jerk is something I can lose my card over, I'll hand it in right now, along with my gun, my badge, and my parking permit.

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    bone daddy wrote:
    If thinking boddah's a jerk is something I can lose my card over, I'll hand it in right now, along with my gun, my badge, and my parking permit.

    Don't forget the keys to the employee washroom, smartypants.

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    bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    You got keys? They told me they don't give those out.

    Son of a bitch.

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    apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2004
    pheezer wrote:
    bone daddy wrote:
    If thinking boddah's a jerk is something I can lose my card over, I'll hand it in right now, along with my gun, my badge, and my parking permit.

    Don't forget the keys to the employee washroom, smartypants.

    I'll change the codes for the photocopier. Again.

    It would be moderatly useful to have one place to go to read up on the status of a probationary user that did not rely on PM'ing other mods or posting in the Mod forum.

    We have a lot of users. We stick a lot of them in jail. I think a hidden comment field on a user profile would be the best way to assist our distributed administrative system.

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    denihilistdenihilist Ancient and Mighty Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2004
    end of thread.

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