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"An Inconvenient Truth" Inspires Man to Take Discovery Channel Hostage [UPDATE: Dead]

Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
edited September 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
Why is no one talking about this?
MSNBC wrote:
Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

“I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it,” the alleged manifesto reads, adding:"Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”

Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”

How is this situation going to play out? Will his actions hurt the image of the environmental movement?

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why is no one talking about this?
    MSNBC wrote:
    Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

    “I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it,” the alleged manifesto reads, adding:"Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”

    Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”

    How is this situation going to play out? Will his actions hurt the image of the environmental movement?


    I laughed very hard upon reading that.

    It always makes me laugh when people say animals are more important than people.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    As to the image, it'll play out the same way it always does when people flip out and do crazy shit. People who are against the movement he associates himself with will try to use his actions to paint the entire movement as unstable and irrational; the people who favor the movement will try to disavow him as a "lone gunman."

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    He'll be touted as a hero on the news. Taking bets.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more people pulling stunts like this.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    He's also anti-immigration, even using the term "anchor babies".

    He's a smorgasbord of crazy.

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  • Brian888Brian888 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It seems like it's been awhile since we've had a good old-fashioned nutjob like this. And right in my backyard, no less (I live about ten minutes from the Discovery Center).

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    He's also anti-immigration, even using the term "anchor babies".

    He's a smorgasbord of crazy.

    This part will either be ignored in the media, or given a little nudge nudge "well at least one stance was reasonable" that fox news gives shit like that. Like how the guy who crashed a plane into an irs building was a folk hero because he hated taxes.

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  • NewtronNewtron Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    From personal experience, people seem to already regard the environmental movement negatively.

    This will end up being just another thing for people to point their fingers at and say "See! They are crazy!".

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    He's also anti-immigration, even using the term "anchor babies".

    He's a smorgasbord of crazy.

    This part will either be ignored in the media, or given a little nudge nudge "well at least one stance was reasonable" that fox news gives shit like that. Like how the guy who crashed a plane into an irs building was a folk hero because he hated taxes.

    I completely agree with preacher here.

    100%

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    He's also anti-immigration, even using the term "anchor babies".

    He's a smorgasbord of crazy.

    This part will either be ignored in the media, or given a little nudge nudge "well at least one stance was reasonable" that fox news gives shit like that. Like how the guy who crashed a plane into an irs building was a folk hero because he hated taxes.
    Probably.

    His manifesto reads like the ramblings of a LaRouchite.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE SQUIRRELS

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    He's also anti-immigration, even using the term "anchor babies".

    He's a smorgasbord of crazy.

    This part will either be ignored in the media, or given a little nudge nudge "well at least one stance was reasonable" that fox news gives shit like that. Like how the guy who crashed a plane into an irs building was a folk hero because he hated taxes.
    Probably.

    His manifesto reads like the ramblings of a LaRouchite.
    10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC.

    To be fair, those shows are fucking gross, though I was surprised to learn TLC in fact was not a channel.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    Edit: never noticed that #10 is the same as #2. Crazy guy needs to proofread.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"
    "Using a communist, not-at-all-American gun."

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"
    "Using a communist, not-at-all-American gun."

    "Global Warming Terrorists Strike Terror into Hard Working Americans!"

    then, for an absolute mind fuck, tie in the anti immigration bit to claim liberals are the real racists.

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"

    And why wouldn't they? Obviously he's not a terrorist, but he's certainly a liberally-inclined extremist. Are you trying to play down the fact that he's holding hostages to get his message out?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    He already has two pipebombs strapped to him. And 2 canisters.

    What the difference between 'pipebomp' and 'canister' is I dunno.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    He already has two pipebombs strapped to him. And 2 canisters.

    What the difference between 'pipebomp' and 'canister' is I dunno.

    One holds Pringles!

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  • ZionnerZionner Registered User new member
    edited September 2010
    I hate it when people take current problems (such as overpopulation) and decide to "fix" them through such methods. Especially the birth control section. Now I have to admit I 'agree' with the fact that something needs to be done about the population growth rate. Perhaps in certian situations it may be better if we were to... play down the significance of having children. Now I am not trying to say that we change all programs on birth in order to disencourage having children, like this guy was, especially since programs on having children can be extremely helpful to couples who have decided to have children.

    Which leads me onto my second problem with what he said. "Humans? The planet does not need Humans" - Now, while we really arent needed on the planet, it really bothers me that this would even make a diffrence to him! It's really quite mindblowing that he said this! As (perhaps with one or two exceptions) there is no species currently that stands as a requirement for continued life on this planet... So why point it out? Does that statement mean we as a species shouldnt go on? If so, than surely all other species that aren't "required" for life on the planet must be in the same situation?!

    Lastly (and I only just noticed this) - Is he directly demands that people stop breeding! "Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet! " I'm sorry but just...What?! I really I just... Dont know what to say, I'm sitting here with my mouth wide open at this statement. I cant believe people really believe things are this simple!

    Anyway, What do you guys think?

    P.S: First post! =) - Sorry if my speeling and/or grammar is atrocious! I tend to get careless when I'm typing.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    He's obviously just someone that flipped out and decided to do something violent instead of something productive.

    Like that guy in Pittsburgh that killed those cops. Or the guy in DC that shot the guard at the Holocaust Memorial. Or...

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    Does a human being explode into meaty chunks like in the movies?

    MYTH CONFIRMED!!!

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    He already has two pipebombs strapped to him. And 2 canisters.

    What the difference between 'pipebomp' and 'canister' is I dunno.

    One holds Pringles!

    I'm guessing the other is a bottle of Gatorade. Holding hostages makes one thirsty.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    He already has two pipebombs strapped to him. And 2 canisters.

    What the difference between 'pipebomp' and 'canister' is I dunno.

    One holds Pringles!

    I'm guessing the other is a bottle of Gatorade. Holding hostages makes one thirsty.

    GATORADE IS THE NECTAR OF IMPERIALISTIC SWINE!

    and it kills squirrels.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"

    To be fair, it's not often left-wing terrorists go after actual people. They usually restrict their stupid to condo construction sites and SUV sales lots.

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  • NartwakNartwak Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GPIA7R wrote: »
    He'll be touted as a hero on the news. Taking bets.
    the lieberal media strikes again!!!!

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    My Demands wrote:
    ...parasitic human infants...filthy human children...baby filth...anchor baby filth...unwanted pollution babies...disgusting human babies...NO MORE BABIES!

    I don't think this guy likes babies.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    It's not just anchor babies he is against, it is all babies.
    2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

    Of course, my favorite demand is the last one. "Oh, yeah, fix unemployment and housing while you are at it."

    Crazy guy is crazy, film at 11.

    I suspect conservatives are going to run this as "Left Wing Terrorist attacks TV station!"

    To be fair, it's not often left-wing terrorists go after actual people. They usually restrict their stupid to condo construction sites and SUV sales lots.

    Let's be fair. The militant vegans also drive the rest of us pretty damn crazy.

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  • GothicLargoGothicLargo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why is no one talking about this?

    How is this situation going to play out?

    BOOM
    "Thanks for standin still."

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why is no one talking about this?

    How is this situation going to play out?

    BOOM
    "Thanks for standin still."

    Supposedly this guy has a bomb with a dead man's switch.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GPIA7R wrote: »
    He'll be touted as a hero on the news. Taking bets.
    Not a chance.

    First off, he's openly environmentalist. That's -300 cable news points right there.

    Second, he's using bombs and not guns (from the reports I'm reading), so he's subconsciously associating himself with bombers and avoiding the nice, powerful phallic imagery of the handgun. -200

    He's championing causes (as much as he's doing anything remotely cohesive) that are shared by the portion of the population who see violence as universally abhorrent, so there's nobody riding to his defense. -200

    Even if someone was willing to defend him, he's not holding up cable news scum, he's holding up the Discovery Channel. They've gone downhill, but they're still held in relatively high regard by most of the people who would think his basic message has any redeeming value at all. -100

    So he's sitting at around -800. That puts him between Osama Bin Laden and The last guy who murdered a newsworthy white girl in terms of support from cable news. No way this guy's getting canonized.

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  • ThePantsAssociationThePantsAssociation A million could-be years on a thousand may-be worldsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Discovery Channel? Send in the Mythbusters to negotiate. And by negotiate I mean strap him with C4 and blow him up.

    He already has two pipebombs strapped to him. And 2 canisters.

    What the difference between 'pipebomp' and 'canister' is I dunno.

    One holds Pringles!

    I'm guessing the other is a bottle of Gatorade. Holding hostages makes one thirsty.

    Gatorade's got what eco-terrorists crave.

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Boom indeed.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Look, it's not like he flew a plane into an IRS building. I can't see anyone touting him as a hero.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Look, it's not like he flew a plane into an IRS building. I can't see anyone touting him as a hero.

    Yeah wasn't that embarrassing. Nothing like sitting US Senators standing behind the actions of a deranged man who crashed a plane into a building.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Apparently the suspect has been shot, is in police custody, and the hostages are safe. The police think there might be explosive devices in the building. The chief of police claims he has no idea of the suspect's condition.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Apparently the suspect has been shot, is in police custody, and the hostages are safe. The police think there might be explosive devices in the building. The chief of police claims he has no idea of the suspect's condition.

    I'm guessing shot, perhaps bleeding.

    Certainly deranged.

    But won't someone think of the squirrels?

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Look, it's not like he flew a plane into an IRS building. I can't see anyone touting him as a hero.

    Yeah wasn't that embarrassing. Nothing like sitting US Senators standing behind the actions of a deranged man who crashed a plane into a building.
    If by embarrassing you mean simultaneously illuminating and horrifying, yes.

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  • South hostSouth host I obey without question Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I was watching this on MSNBC. They cut to commercial right when the chief was giving his update, and it cut off the part where he announced that the suspect was shot. Someone is getting fired.

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