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MotW 11/3: If you can't beat the Joker at cards he'll BURY YOU ALIVE!!!

Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
edited November 2010 in Graphic Violence
Well, with the return of Bruce Wayne we see that the Hurt guy is still being quite dickish, Pennyworth is in trouble, Dick was shot in the head, and there's an airborne drug epidemic in Gotham. But strangely enough, along with our own assembled cast of heroes in this week's Batman and Robin . . .
The Joker continues to play a confusing hand of murderous heroics seeing as how he just can't be a good Joker without the original Batman. So Hurt and Bruce go at it, with punching and megalomaniacle laughter being exchanged between the two, but he has to choose to either save Alfred or persue Hurt. But it's okay, Joker's got this.
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I thought during Morrison's run he portrayed the Joker in the absence of Bruce Wayne brilliantly. The Joker just can't be the villain we all know without his goody-gothic counterpart to match himself against. And it manifested itself perfectly in Morrison's adaptation of the character. However, with Bruce's return we'll probably see the return of a more traditional Joker.

But it just doesn't feel like a true return for Bruce Wayne . . . something's missing.
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Ahhhh, there it is.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Witch_Hunter_84 wrote: »
    Well, with the return of Bruce Wayne we see that the Hurt guy is still being quite dickish, Pennyworth is in trouble, Dick was shot in the head, and there's an airborne drug epidemic in Gotham. But strangely enough, along with our own assembled cast of heroes in this week's Batman and Robin . . .
    The Joker continues to play a confusing hand of murderous heroics seeing as how he just can't be a good Joker without the original Batman. So Hurt and Bruce go at it, with punching and megalomaniacle laughter being exchanged between the two, but he has to choose to either save Alfred or persue Hurt. But it's okay, Joker's got this.
    Joker.jpg
    Joker2.jpg

    I thought during Morrison's run he portrayed the Joker in the absence of Bruce Wayne brilliantly. The Joker just can't be the villain we all know without his goody-gothic counterpart to match himself against. And it manifested itself perfectly in Morrison's adaptation of the character. However, with Bruce's return we'll probably see the return of a more traditional Joker.

    But it just doesn't feel like a true return for Bruce Wayne . . . something's missing.
    Joker3.jpg
    Ahhhh, there it is.
    That's Dick. Note the belt

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Really? I honestly can't tell. Maybe the fact they had two artists on this issue it makes it hard to differentiate.
    Also Dick had passed out from being shot I think, but he could've possibly made it to the cemetary on time.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Witch_Hunter_84 wrote: »
    Really? I honestly can't tell. Maybe the fact they had two artists on this issue it makes it hard to differentiate.
    Also Dick had passed out from being shot I think, but he could've possibly made it to the cemetary on time.
    True, but that's Dick's belt. Bruce's has the clasp

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
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    Moment of my week right here

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MastaP wrote: »
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    Moment of my week right here

    Sweet jesus that is glorious, where did you find it?

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    This Week's issue of ASM

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  • weenusweenus Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Don't ever threaten an Osborn at his own damn party.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MastaP wrote: »
    Witch_Hunter_84 wrote: »
    Really? I honestly can't tell. Maybe the fact they had two artists on this issue it makes it hard to differentiate.
    Also Dick had passed out from being shot I think, but he could've possibly made it to the cemetary on time.
    True, but that's Dick's belt. Bruce's has the clasp
    Nope, it's Bruce, Irving draws him with the same clasp, if you look at the page where he saves Alfred.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Lux wrote: »
    MastaP wrote: »
    Witch_Hunter_84 wrote: »
    Really? I honestly can't tell. Maybe the fact they had two artists on this issue it makes it hard to differentiate.
    Also Dick had passed out from being shot I think, but he could've possibly made it to the cemetary on time.
    True, but that's Dick's belt. Bruce's has the clasp
    Nope, it's Bruce, Irving draws him with the same clasp, if you look at the page where he saves Alfred.

    Hmm, yeah, I think you're right actually

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I think Frazier Irving draws my favorite Joker right now.

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MastaP wrote: »
    This Week's issue of ASM

    That too was pretty awesome, but I was forced to choose.

    forced

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    SPACE VOODOO

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    All of Invincilbe was Holy Shit for me.

    Also read through all of the seventh "The Boys" trade, and oh man this series is not going to end well. I mean for the characters, that the overall writing.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Say what you will about Joker but he is a class act

    Batman and Robin spoilers
    Killing Hurt in the exact same death trap Hurt intended for Bruce back in RIP.

    Nice

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    B&R 16 was fantastic stuff

    But there isn't enough love for this week's issue of Taskmaster.

    Red Shirt the Uber-Henchman!

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Maybe my perceptions are just out of whack, but did Batman punch the Joker's head clean off in that one?

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    No, just really REALLY hard.

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Just got vol. 1 of Promethea from Amazon. Liking this a lot so far.

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    My moment of the week was finally buying the war of kings books (including war of kings warriors and the guardians of the galaxy tie in issues).

    Read them all in the course of two days, lots of great moments and some sad ones. :(

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Did you read the Nova tie-in as well?

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Did you read the Nova tie-in as well?

    Nova is one of the few series I keep track of so I've had the war of kings nova book for awhile now

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  • 143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Did Joker dose Hurt with some venom there, or is he just getting his rictus on?

    Also,
    I feel like I've missed a crucial yet elementary detail. Does Joker know Bruce's identity now?

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    143999 wrote: »
    Did Joker dose Hurt with some venom there, or is he just getting his rictus on?

    Also,
    I feel like I've missed a crucial yet elementary detail. Does Joker know Bruce's identity now?

    Yes and yes

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  • 143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    BigDes wrote: »
    143999 wrote: »
    Did Joker dose Hurt with some venom there, or is he just getting his rictus on?

    Also,
    I feel like I've missed a crucial yet elementary detail. Does Joker know Bruce's identity now?

    Yes and yes
    So he buried an immortal (or at least nearly so, right?) with a broken neck and demonic ties after dosing him with Joker venom. Sounds like a good way to plant afar-flung future Jokeric Barbatos-analogue.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Joker definitely knows Bruce is Batman, he just don't give a fuck

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I don't think Joker would find it very funny if Bruce's identity became public knowledge. Right now he sees himself as being "in on the Joke" in a way and if someone like the Riddler or Mr. Freez tried to out Bruce then Joker would probably move against them to keep the whole thing interesting.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Witch_Hunter_84 wrote: »
    I don't think Joker would find it very funny if Bruce's identity became public knowledge. Right now he sees himself as being "in on the Joke" in a way and if someone like the Riddler or Mr. Freez tried to out Bruce then Joker would probably move against them to keep the whole thing interesting.

    That's pretty much what happened when Hugo Strange tried to auction off Batman's identity in the 70's

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  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    Joker definitely knows Bruce is Batman, he just don't give a fuck

    Actually, he does. If you read the last arc of Batman and Robin, Joker pretty much comes out and says he can't be the Joker without Bruce as Batman. Grayson as Batman just isn't the same to him, and if Bruce isn't going to be Batman, then the Joker will have to be a 'hero' just to keep things entertaining.

    I think the Joker actually cares so much for Bruce being in the Cowl that he'll do whatever he has to in order to keep Bruce in it.

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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Joker definitely knows Bruce is Batman, he just don't give a fuck

    Actually, he does. If you read the last arc of Batman and Robin, Joker pretty much comes out and says he can't be the Joker without Bruce as Batman. Grayson as Batman just isn't the same to him, and if Bruce isn't going to be Batman, then the Joker will have to be a 'hero' just to keep things entertaining.

    I think the Joker actually cares so much for Bruce being in the Cowl that he'll do whatever he has to in order to keep Bruce in it.

    Not to mention in RIP when he unmasked in front of The Joker and all of the Black Glove.

    There's also a scene from A Death In the Family where The Joker pauses, stares at Bruce, then walks away laughing.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Joker definitely knows Bruce is Batman, he just don't give a fuck

    Actually, he does. If you read the last arc of Batman and Robin, Joker pretty much comes out and says he can't be the Joker without Bruce as Batman. Grayson as Batman just isn't the same to him, and if Bruce isn't going to be Batman, then the Joker will have to be a 'hero' just to keep things entertaining.

    I think the Joker actually cares so much for Bruce being in the Cowl that he'll do whatever he has to in order to keep Bruce in it.

    No, the Joker cares that the person he knows as Batman is really Batman, but he doesn't care about their real name, or who they are outside of the mask. Because that's not Batman, and it's not part of the game.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MastaP wrote: »
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Joker definitely knows Bruce is Batman, he just don't give a fuck

    Actually, he does. If you read the last arc of Batman and Robin, Joker pretty much comes out and says he can't be the Joker without Bruce as Batman. Grayson as Batman just isn't the same to him, and if Bruce isn't going to be Batman, then the Joker will have to be a 'hero' just to keep things entertaining.

    I think the Joker actually cares so much for Bruce being in the Cowl that he'll do whatever he has to in order to keep Bruce in it.

    No, the Joker cares that the person he knows as Batman is really Batman, but he doesn't care about their real name, or who they are outside of the mask. Because that's not Batman, and it's not part of the game.

    I would also assume that to Joker, Bruce Wayne is not the real person. The real person is Batman.

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Had a chance to power through the tpbs of the rest of Promethea. Wow.

    Have not fully digested how good it was. Reminds me of being all excited about the mythology in Sandman back in the 90s, same kind of "everything and two kitchen sinks and ceremonial magic" going on, but grounded in what starts out as a super-hero-y story.

    Damn.

    Gotta get the Absolute editions that are out thus far once I have the dollars.

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I'm not sure if I've fully formulated an opinion on Promethea, but I will tell you this: that scene where they're walking around on the Mobius Strip rent my fucking mind.

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  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    oh man, talking about the conversations they're overhearing from the opposite side

    yyyyyeaaaahhhh booooyyyyyeeeee

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I just picked up the past month of comics, so I have no idea where this falls. Still.

    Breathable Air.
    Un-Breathable Air.
    Breathable Air.
    Un-Breathable Air.

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    That's the current week, we're already gushing about it in MotW 11/10.

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