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A Song of Ice and Fire: The pilot is so close you can taste the incest.

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    ZedarZedar Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Arya's marksmanship and seeming ability to go from stitching to planting a bullseye after equipping herself with bow and arrow in between the time it took Bran to make two shots

    Kind of annoyed me.

    This annoyed me too.
    It's supposed to be a big deal later on when she manages to get her fathers approval to train with weapons, so showing her apparently a master archer right at the start will lessen the impact of this I think.

    Still overall I'm very impressed. They made some changes to the details of what happens (especially in the prologue), but they managed to do it without changing the "feel" of what happened. I understand there is no room to tell the fully story of Royce and co and liked the way the condensed it into essentially a different story that conveys the same message.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Not how I see it:
    Arya starting training was important in the grand scheme, but fairly "And now Arya is doing something else tom-boy like." as it occurred. It wasn't anything OMG WOW at the time and still isn't as an isolated event. Least that's how I recall it, shrug.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2011
    arya needs to be uglier :P

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    DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Anyone else started playing on Win the Throne? While it mainly a sweepstakes, there are some interesting little games on there, as well as the personality quiz to align you with a specific House. Eh, it's a good diversion for a few minutes.

    I'm with Stark, of course.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Seriously, one of the minigames is war? Laaazy.

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    DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Yeah, like I said, a nice diversion for a few minutes. It's basically War, Rock/Paper/Scissors, jigsaw puzzle, and the like. The one that's kicking my butt is the Direwolves vs. Rabbit game on Expert mode. I mean, I know I've got a bit of a migraine right now so I'm not at my best, but jeez... I'm thinking that I must be missing some basic move or function somewhere.

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Organichu wrote: »
    arya needs to be uglier :P

    But Arya isn't ugly, despite the teasing heaped upon her by Jeyne and Sansa.

    Part of her tragedy is that she will grow to be beautiful, like Lyanna, but is constantly overshadowed by Sansa who is conventionally beautiful and dutiful in her observance of what is expected of a lady.

    Arya's "problem" is that faced with Sansa's superior attitude and her own preference for Tom-Boyish activities she's ibfernalised the idea that she is ugly and exacerbates this by not caring and dressing like a stablehand.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dalboz wrote: »
    Yeah, like I said, a nice diversion for a few minutes. It's basically War, Rock/Paper/Scissors, jigsaw puzzle, and the like. The one that's kicking my butt is the Direwolves vs. Rabbit game on Expert mode. I mean, I know I've got a bit of a migraine right now so I'm not at my best, but jeez... I'm thinking that I must be missing some basic move or function somewhere.

    Well, yeah, but at least those others are games. War is just, you have been randomly dealt these cards. Now lay them down to see how it turns out. Having a "deal card" button is pointless since there's nothing you can do to affect the game. It can't really be "played".

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2011
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    arya needs to be uglier :P

    But Arya isn't ugly, despite the teasing heaped upon her by Jeyne and Sansa.

    Part of her tragedy is that she will grow to be beautiful, like Lyanna, but is constantly overshadowed by Sansa who is conventionally beautiful and dutiful in her observance of what is expected of a lady.

    Arya's "problem" is that faced with Sansa's superior attitude and her own preference for Tom-Boyish activities she's ibfernalised the idea that she is ugly and exacerbates this by not caring and dressing like a stablehand.

    I always thought of her more as a Brienne style character.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Arya is really not much like Brienne at all

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It's never said that Arya is ugly, she just is generally attired in mud and rags, has a boy's haircut, and is a little kid

    Brienne is described in detail as having bad teeth, trees growing out of her arm pits, and having the physical build of the cave troll from LOTR

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Neat, it assigned me to the Nights Watch.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Neat, it assigned me to the Nights Watch.

    That would suck. The Night's Watch sucks except for their noble goals they suck ass at executing. :P

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dalboz wrote: »
    Anyone else started playing on Win the Throne? While it mainly a sweepstakes, there are some interesting little games on there, as well as the personality quiz to align you with a specific House. Eh, it's a good diversion for a few minutes.

    I'm with Stark, of course.

    There are apparently some codes that you want to enter from affiliate sites. Do you know where to find them?

    I was assigned to Stark, but decided to switch to Night's Watch.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    That test may as well be "Which do you want? A B C D E or F"? If you mix and match qualities from each house you end up in the Night's Watch.

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    the Togfatherthe Togfather Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I cannot freaking wait for this. I've followed every little bit of news I could find for this series, read the book, watched the preview, done the viral marketing and seen all the clips...my hype level is at an all-time high. Yes, this had me very concerned of being let down, but if these early reviews are any indication, it is quite possible that my expectations will be surpassed. Which now has me wondering...how can this possibly be real?!?!

    I am going to geek out on this more than I have on any other franchise. And that's coming from a guy that dressed like a Jedi in college.

    Twice.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
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    The show will feature wars between humans and "The Others," a concept closely associated with ABC's "Lost."

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Speaking of Lost, I love this:

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/05/thrones-author-lost/
    First, here’s George R.R. Martin in the profile: “We watched [Lost] every week trying to figure it out, and as it got deeper and deeper I kept saying, ‘They better have something good in mind for the end. This better pay off here.’ And then I felt so cheated when we got to the conclusion.” Martin also cites the Lost ending as the type of mistake he fears making with his own show, saying, “I want to give them something terrific. What if I f— it up at the end? What if I do a Lost? Then they’ll come after me with pitchforks and torches.
    Well, Lindelof had something to say about that. Quite a few things. And they were rather hilarious as well. Here are some of his tweets from over the last 19 hours: “In related news, my therapist just hit the jackpot … George? You got yourself a feud, motherf–ker … Winter IS coming, bitch … I don’t take issue with his opinion, I take issue with the fact that he coined “Pulling a LOST” as empirically “f–king up the ending” … I’ve just been informed George is working on his feud response. I’ll have it in FIVE YEARS! … Two final thoughts, George. A. They weren’t dead the whole time. B. 1997 called. It wants its web design back … I stand by the ending of the show and defend it accordingly. Until I am worthy of the New Yorker, this is the platform I’ve got.”

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Except the Others from Lost weren't frozen ice zombies.

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2011
    Jesus, he actually tries to defend the ending of Lost? I mean it wasn't the worst thing ever but they completely lost the feeling of the show and alienated most of their fans. I think the term he was looking for was pulling a Battlestar Gallactica.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    You all are missing the point. Battles between humans and "Others"! It's a focal point of the show! I can't wait to see the epic battles between man and monster in "Game of Some Thrones"

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    You all are missing the point. Battles between humans and "Others"! It's a focal point of the show! I can't wait to see the epic battles between man and monster in "Game of Some Thrones"

    It looks like the real monster... is man.

    No, wait, zombies.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Martin is just mad LOST scoped his ending- Everyone dies!

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Westeros is Purgatory.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The Others were created from the sins of Westeros

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    soxboxsoxbox Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Just a sec....

    Ever more complicated government conspiracies
    Children going missing
    People experiencing supernatural events while others remain skeptical

    Jesus! Screw this crap! It's the X-Files all over again!

    "The Others are out there"

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Underage sex?

    Seems like HBO is ripping off Roswell to me!

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    RollsavagerRollsavager Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I really liked the preview footage--there are still a lot of people I can't wait to see on screen, Jaime, Tyrion, and Littlefinger chief among them. I also hope we get to see the Blackfish at some point, even though Martin blogged that he wouldn't be appearing at the Eyrie.

    Re: Valyrian steel, I got the impression from the books that it was supposed to be darker than normal steel, and significantly lighter. I took a peek at the "official merchandise" page for the series, and it looks like there's just a light grayish pattern printed onto the metal. Oh well. Not a deal-breaker at all for me.

    The one thing that actually bugged me from the preview was the prologue scene. I thought wights were supposed to be silent? Instead I'm getting a "Firefly Reavers" sort of vibe from them. It just takes them one notch away from "creepy" and toward "campy" for me.

    EDIT: Also, having just finished A Feast For Crows, I have to ask:
    In the chapter "Back at the Wall," Martin mentions that Feast is half of the story, and A Dance with Dragons is supposed to tell the other half. Does that mean we're stuck with cliffhangers re: Arya, Brienne, and Cersei until book six comes out?

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    Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    He said that's how it was going to be originally, but it's since expanded, so there will be at least clues about what happened to them, if not pov chapters.

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    spamfilterspamfilter Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    No
    Martin has said the 2/3 of ADWD with catch up with AFFC, the last 1/3 will extend to events after AFFC, and some of the POVs in AFFC will return in that last 1/3.

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    HamurabiHamurabi MiamiRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
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    Oh gof why is this so funny.

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    FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Is He in the show? Did they actually hire someone to say nothing but "HODOR!" all the time? That would be great.

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    ZedarZedar Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
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    Hodor!

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    HamurabiHamurabi MiamiRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    A guy I used to play WoW with a lot would help me annoy/terrorize our guildies in Vent by talking to me in Hodorese. We'd basically just yell "Hoe-durr hoe-durr hoe-durr!" at each other, inflecting so it sounded like a genuine language.

    No one else in guild had read ASoIaF, so they never got the joke.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I really liked the preview footage--there are still a lot of people I can't wait to see on screen, Jaime, Tyrion, and Littlefinger chief among them. I also hope we get to see the Blackfish at some point, even though Martin blogged that he wouldn't be appearing at the Eyrie.

    Re: Valyrian steel, I got the impression from the books that it was supposed to be darker than normal steel, and significantly lighter. I took a peek at the "official merchandise" page for the series, and it looks like there's just a light grayish pattern printed onto the metal. Oh well. Not a deal-breaker at all for me.

    The one thing that actually bugged me from the preview was the prologue scene. I thought wights were supposed to be silent? Instead I'm getting a "Firefly Reavers" sort of vibe from them. It just takes them one notch away from "creepy" and toward "campy" for me.

    EDIT: Also, having just finished A Feast For Crows, I have to ask:
    In the chapter "Back at the Wall," Martin mentions that Feast is half of the story, and A Dance with Dragons is supposed to tell the other half. Does that mean we're stuck with cliffhangers re: Arya, Brienne, and Cersei until book six comes out?

    Those weren't wights (aside from the little girl)

    those were Others

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    That just makes it worse, since White Walkers should be silent for sure...

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Well it was silent at first

    Tossing the head and mocking is definitely the kind of thing the Others do. Really, for supernatural entities that are ageless they are dicks.

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    AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Hmm I should start to reread the series,
    I can't remember well where others pop up other than the prologue if at all

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Alegis wrote: »
    Hmm I should start to reread the series,
    I can't remember well where others pop up other than the prologue if at all
    Not until SoS.

    I really liked how in the books they set up the Night's Watch's horn signals, how even though Others haven't been seen for thousands of years the signal is still on the books. Then when it finally comes everybody is like "hooooolllyyy shiiiitttttt." That part was just so eerie.

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    YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I really liked the preview footage--there are still a lot of people I can't wait to see on screen, Jaime, Tyrion, and Littlefinger chief among them. I also hope we get to see the Blackfish at some point, even though Martin blogged that he wouldn't be appearing at the Eyrie.

    Re: Valyrian steel, I got the impression from the books that it was supposed to be darker than normal steel, and significantly lighter. I took a peek at the "official merchandise" page for the series, and it looks like there's just a light grayish pattern printed onto the metal. Oh well. Not a deal-breaker at all for me.

    The one thing that actually bugged me from the preview was the prologue scene. I thought wights were supposed to be silent? Instead I'm getting a "Firefly Reavers" sort of vibe from them. It just takes them one notch away from "creepy" and toward "campy" for me.

    EDIT: Also, having just finished A Feast For Crows, I have to ask:
    In the chapter "Back at the Wall," Martin mentions that Feast is half of the story, and A Dance with Dragons is supposed to tell the other half. Does that mean we're stuck with cliffhangers re: Arya, Brienne, and Cersei until book six comes out?

    Those weren't wights (aside from the little girl)

    those were Others

    Wait, are you sure? They had bright blue eyes and looked mostly human. I don't think we saw any others onscreen in the HBO version of the prologue.

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