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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I'll concede. I see that this isn't exactly a "pet hate" in the realm of video games. I apologize you guys... And I do still <3 you.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    edit: Oh, the discussion is over.

    Here's something else I hate now that I am in Africa, games and distributors that assume you have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Would it be too much to have some of your assets distributed via steam, Impulse, a downloader, or a torrent? Until I get back to the states, its a 3 day wait to get something online.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Also fuck weapon skills, and I'm glad to see them gone.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    urahonky wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    innovate. It made leveling easier to manage, and it was a much, MUCH faster combat
    So...it was basically the same old shit but improved slightly?

    So because they didn't invent combat in MMOs that's not considered an innovation? If you've ever played EQ or the older MMOs you'd understand why this is an innovation. It made it more of an Action genre than RPG genre.

    Being faster makes it more of an action genre game now? O_o

    You've never played WoW or anything before it clearly. Yes it's more akin to the action genre than the RPG genre.

    So it's fantasy borderlands?

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    mrt144 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    innovate. It made leveling easier to manage, and it was a much, MUCH faster combat
    So...it was basically the same old shit but improved slightly?

    So because they didn't invent combat in MMOs that's not considered an innovation? If you've ever played EQ or the older MMOs you'd understand why this is an innovation. It made it more of an Action genre than RPG genre.

    Being faster makes it more of an action genre game now? O_o

    You've never played WoW or anything before it clearly. Yes it's more akin to the action genre than the RPG genre.

    So it's fantasy borderlands?


    WANT.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    edit: Oh, the discussion is over.

    Here's something else I hate now that I am in Africa, games and distributors that assume you have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Would it be too much to have some of your assets distributed via steam, Impulse, a downloader, or a torrent? Until I get back to the states, its a 3 day wait to get something online.

    Related pet peeve: The fact that everyone doesn't have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Step it up, governments of the world.

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    JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    edit: Oh, the discussion is over.

    Here's something else I hate now that I am in Africa, games and distributors that assume you have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Would it be too much to have some of your assets distributed via steam, Impulse, a downloader, or a torrent? Until I get back to the states, its a 3 day wait to get something online.

    Related pet peeve: The fact that everyone doesn't have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Step it up, governments of the world.

    Am I a socialist for being envious of how South Korea handles internet?

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    mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Ok, this is the only place I can think that this wont be totally off topic. Because its a huge fucking pet peeve, and also a problem.

    So I bought the Halo Reach limited edition controller and the D-Pad didnt work. Frustrating, but whatever. It only recognized me hitting left 1 out of every 4 presses. So I go and return it - which was a huge hassle. I ordered it off WalMart.com because it was a deal, and then had to find a store that had it in stock to exchange it. So I find one, and no one knew how to exchange an online order with an in store item. Whatever, it was a hassle but it gets done.

    I get home, and great! The D-Pad works!

    But the left thumbstick drifts to the left CONSTANTLY. It makes playing Plants vs Zombies IMPOSSIBLE. I have 2 XBox controllers already, but I bought this one because it was on sale, and I was sick of the OTHER two controllers I have drifting left. They do the same exact thing - it's just they're both 3 years old so I figured it was due to age. This thing is 2 DAYS OLD.

    So the pet peeve? Jesus christ microsoft MAKE A WORKING CONTROLLER.

    The off topic advice? Is it worth re-packaging this, bring it back AGAIN and exchanging it yet AGAIN and just hoping the new one works - or is this just going to keep happening because Microsoft is making broken controllers and no one gives a shit?

    I also have the feeling like they think Im trying to scam them, which I know Im not at all, but it doesnt stop me from feeling really weird everytime I go in and just keep running through the 4 Halo controllers they have left and swapping them. Ugh, so angry.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    That "drift to the left" problem happens on all of my controllers. It also really appears when I play a Bioware game, which is odd. It was really hard to do a Very Hard run in ME2 with it continuously doing that.

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    ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    One of my controllers has both the left d-pad and the drifting thumbstick issues. I never knew those were common problems.

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    plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Related pet peeve: The fact that everyone doesn't have perfect internet 100% of the time.

    Step it up, governments of the world.

    Australia is trying, but my god the conservatives are trying so hard to stop it. "Waste of money, wireless would be just as good!".

    Eeeuugh.

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    DramDram Old Salt Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I find it odd that the conservatives want it stopped when it's already implemented in a good deal of Tasmania. What will they do if they manage to scrap it? Rip the fibre cables out of the ground?

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    plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    They'll keep what is in place, and then patch the rest together with wireless.


    Yay.

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Speaking of Australia, I hate what they had to do to Left 4 Dead 2 to release it here.

    That was some serious garbage. It makes the game harder not to be able to tell when CI are dead. And it makes everything more satisfying to see bits flying everywhere.

    Also, I am with jclast, MMOs are the worst thing.

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    plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    At the very least Apothe0sis, valve have said that the second the laws here are fixed they will patch L4D2 for our region to be the same as everywhere else (except germany, of course).

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    jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Ok, this is the only place I can think that this wont be totally off topic. Because its a huge fucking pet peeve, and also a problem.

    So I bought the Halo Reach limited edition controller and the D-Pad didnt work. Frustrating, but whatever. It only recognized me hitting left 1 out of every 4 presses. So I go and return it - which was a huge hassle. I ordered it off WalMart.com because it was a deal, and then had to find a store that had it in stock to exchange it. So I find one, and no one knew how to exchange an online order with an in store item. Whatever, it was a hassle but it gets done.

    I get home, and great! The D-Pad works!

    But the left thumbstick drifts to the left CONSTANTLY. It makes playing Plants vs Zombies IMPOSSIBLE. I have 2 XBox controllers already, but I bought this one because it was on sale, and I was sick of the OTHER two controllers I have drifting left. They do the same exact thing - it's just they're both 3 years old so I figured it was due to age. This thing is 2 DAYS OLD.

    So the pet peeve? Jesus christ microsoft MAKE A WORKING CONTROLLER.

    The off topic advice? Is it worth re-packaging this, bring it back AGAIN and exchanging it yet AGAIN and just hoping the new one works - or is this just going to keep happening because Microsoft is making broken controllers and no one gives a shit?

    I also have the feeling like they think Im trying to scam them, which I know Im not at all, but it doesnt stop me from feeling really weird everytime I go in and just keep running through the 4 Halo controllers they have left and swapping them. Ugh, so angry.

    One of my controllers drifts right, but only in Civ: Rev. So my wife just uses a different controller for that game. If you're unsatisfied with the controller though you should definitely keep returning it until you get a good one.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    So what did they change for L4D2 in Australia?

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    urahonky wrote: »
    So what did they change for L4D2 in Australia?

    You know how Left 4 Dead 2 has much more gore than Left 4 Dead 1? Apparently that's not the case in the Australian version.

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    LeztaLezta Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You know what I hate? Micro in RTS's. This is probably blasphemy to most fans of the genre, but the last thing I want to be doing is moving my mouse (Yeah, yeah, keyboard shortcuts. You know what, fuck you) around like a mad thing, trying to get my little mens do something they should really be doing themselves.

    I'd rather just be a general who says 'hold this point, make sure the enemy doesn't take that resource' than say 'shoot that tank, no! Now that man with the rocket! No, now the tank! Now move slightly to the left to avoid that grenade!'.

    My little dudes are (usually) supposed to be trained, they should have some idea about target priority and avoiding grenades. I just want to build them, tell them where to go, and watch them get on with it whilst I plan my grand strategy.

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    JHunzJHunz Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    urahonky wrote: »
    That "drift to the left" problem happens on all of my controllers. It also really appears when I play a Bioware game, which is odd. It was really hard to do a Very Hard run in ME2 with it continuously doing that.

    I think my pet peeve is that there isn't a controller-specific setting for thumbstick dead zone in the 360 system settings. Most games it doesn't seem to matter, but when it does it's really annoying.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    urahonky wrote: »
    So what did they change for L4D2 in Australia?

    No blood, no dismemberment, and the zombies disappear after they're killed.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    They also removed the cop zombies in The Parish because they didn't want people attacking authority figures.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Wow that's insane... Though I did notice in the 360 version that the bodies disappear... But that's probably more because of the console than anything else.

    How do you get the achievement for dismemberment? Just assume that you dismembered them?

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    They also removed the cop zombies in The Parish because they didn't want people attacking authority figures.

    How does that even work if you're playing multiplayer with someone that doesn't have the censored version?

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Peewi wrote: »
    They also removed the cop zombies in The Parish because they didn't want people attacking authority figures.

    How does that even work if you're playing multiplayer with someone that doesn't have the censored version?

    Apparently it just doesn't spawn them for anyone.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    urahonky wrote: »
    Wow that's insane... Though I did notice in the 360 version that the bodies disappear... But that's probably more because of the console than anything else.
    Nope, it's because Australia

    L4D2 Censorship

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    FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I believe the National Guard, police, and Security zombies have been removed from the game. I played the New Orleans mission a few weeks back and none of them appeared.

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    Pablo the PenguinPablo the Penguin Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My pet peeve is video games that have aspects which are intolerant of failure, or intolerant or new players. Like Street Fighter. An example of the latter: Since I didn't play street fighter obsessively (or at all) when I was a kid, I can't get into it now since everyone else is better than me due to their lifetime of practice.

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    CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My pet peeve is video games that have aspects which are intolerant of failure, or intolerant or new players. Like Street Fighter. An example of the latter: Since I didn't play street fighter obsessively (or at all) when I was a kid, I can't get into it now since everyone else is better than me due to their lifetime of practice.

    I would disagree with the Street Fighter sentiment. I hadn't played SF since the SNES version in '92 prior to picking up SSFIV. Yeah, you will bump into crazy people who will destroy you. But you will also get better at the game and it will eventually kind of even out. If that thought is keeping you from playing IV, take a leap of faith. Hell of a game.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Joke uber treasures. As in Castlevania HOD. Spent 30 minutes doing a level? HA HA you get ramen! Oh, trying again? HA HA here's a cloth cape!

    Oh, is this the fourth time you're killing that boss in Phantasy Star? HERE'S A MONOMATE YOU STUPID BUGGER HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My pet peeve is video games that have aspects which are intolerant of failure, or intolerant or new players. Like Street Fighter. An example of the latter: Since I didn't play street fighter obsessively (or at all) when I was a kid, I can't get into it now since everyone else is better than me due to their lifetime of practice.

    Do you really think theres another way to make sequels without reinventing the wheel?

    Imagine you play a game where X attacks. On the next iteration X blocks. Imagine how awful that would be.

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    OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I don't know if I've played an RPG since the SSI D&D Gold Box games where, if you get in a fight and slaughter 25 evil priests, you get to pick through 25 sets of chain armor, 25 maces, 25 shields, etc. I'm always annoyed when this isn't the case.

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    harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The Elder Scrolls games do that really well, but since its a solo RPG it's never more than 3 or 4 sets of armor :)

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    Glass.CannonGlass.Cannon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    SSI's Dark Sun: Shattered Lands is still one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Orogogus wrote: »
    I don't know if I've played an RPG since the SSI D&D Gold Box games where, if you get in a fight and slaughter 25 evil priests, you get to pick through 25 sets of chain armor, 25 maces, 25 shields, etc. I'm always annoyed when this isn't the case.
    I don't get this; there's no reason for it. You're not actually going to make 10 trips out of the dungeon to sell vender trash, and even if the junk mobs do start out with better gear than you brought in....they won't after one of these encounters, because you can take it all.

    From that point on, you'd just kill them....and have to sort through 30 junk swords, axes, dagger, shields, sets of mail, boots, etc to find anything you might actually want like a potion or money or whatever. I don't need to see "Iron Sword +1" to know that I don't give any kind of a shit about it. As long as it doesn't vaporize on impact I can just know that 'my character' didn't bother with the trash anyway.

    Now, when you kill Captain Mega McDemon and the 7 ft long sentient sword that was spouting bursts of lightning and spawning minions just *dissapears* after you whack his head off? That's annoying.

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    OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    If the game wants to filter through to make sure that everything dropped is better than what I've got equipped and am carrying to sell, that's fine. But it seems to me that the alternative to sorting through 30 junk swords after the first battle is having to slog through 5 encounters until one finally drops the junk sword I need at the outset. The giant list of useless loot helps me feel that there's something being simulated, rather than just a system to be gamed.

    Also, I get really peeved at games that make me buy arrows, and have pissants shooting at me who drop, like, 3 arrows after the fight.

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    FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Orogogus wrote: »
    I don't know if I've played an RPG since the SSI D&D Gold Box games where, if you get in a fight and slaughter 25 evil priests, you get to pick through 25 sets of chain armor, 25 maces, 25 shields, etc. I'm always annoyed when this isn't the case.
    Never played MASS EFFECT 1, have you ?

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    FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    My first MMO was CITY OF HEROES, and looking back I don't see how that game survived the "score negative experience every time you die" mechanic. Was that a common feature in MMO's at that time ? Cuz it killed COH for me, and everyone else I knew who tried to play it. You'd advance for a while until you needed to beat a tough quest, fail a bunch of times, and next thing you knew you had to play for a day and a half just to make up the experience deficit and get back to zero. Gosh I'd rather play BG2 again than do that.

    So I did.

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    LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Fairchild wrote: »
    My first MMO was CITY OF HEROES, and looking back I don't see how that game survived the "score negative experience every time you die" mechanic. Was that a common feature in MMO's at that time ? Cuz it killed COH for me, and everyone else I knew who tried to play it. You'd advance for a while until you needed to beat a tough quest, fail a bunch of times, and next thing you knew you had to play for a day and a half just to make up the experience deficit and get back to zero. Gosh I'd rather play BG2 again than do that.

    So I did.

    WoW was IIRC the first one to ever break that model.

    Part of the reason it was such a runaway success.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah negative experience is a load of shit

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