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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    SirToons wrote: »
    I have Everything's Eventual right here, I bought it around 3 months ago but never got to read it an of it.

    I think I'll wait until I see the movie first before even opening it because I have no self control.

    1408 is a great short story, you should read it

    EE isn't as good as deathbird stories (but then nothing is) but it's still really good

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SirToons wrote: »
    I have Everything's Eventual right here, I bought it around 3 months ago but never got to read it an of it.

    I think I'll wait until I see the movie first before even opening it because I have no self control.

    Uh, just to let you know, you could definitely, definitely read the story and not have the movie spoiled. The short story, at most, establishes the premise for the movie, as no way in fucking hell could you make a two-hour movie out of twenty pages of creepy shit or however long it was.

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Which one of his anthologies had "Suffer The Little Children"?

    That one was really chilling

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Which one of his anthologies had "Suffer The Little Children?

    That one was really chilling

    oh, that's the one with the teacher, right

    uhh

    skeleton crew, i think

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SirToons wrote: »
    I have Everything's Eventual right here, I bought it around 3 months ago but never got to read it an of it.

    I think I'll wait until I see the movie first before even opening it because I have no self control.

    Uh, just to let you know, you could definitely, definitely read the story and not have the movie spoiled. The short story, at most, establishes the premise for the movie, as no way in fucking hell could you make a two-hour movie out of twenty pages of creepy shit or however long it was.
    I'd look at it more as all the key points of the movie are in the short story. I'd really like to be surprised by the movie.




    I <3 John Cusack.

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    As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    More like Black Sheep

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Which one of his anthologies had "Suffer The Little Children?

    That one was really chilling

    oh, that's the one with the teacher, right

    uhh

    skeleton crew, i think

    Can I just say that Skeleton Crew was the shittiest book of his that I've ever read? I mean, I didn't like The Regulators, The Tommyknockers or Desperation, but Skeleton Crew was the only one that was so bad I just couldn't deal with it.

    I've only reread a few of his; Hearts in Atlantis and the Stand because they were good, and Dark Tower because it's an incredible voyage.

    Let me qualify that statement: I thought Stephen King took a fucking hammer to the gem that was the Dark Tower series. In the last three books, when he got into all that fucking "universe-hopping, time-travelling, Earth-Midworld-Earth-Midworld" bullshit, I just got sick and tired. I would have loved a series just based on the world of Gilead and all that itself, and even tying in Eddie and Susannah and Jake was ok, because it was just like "hey, check it out, this story is deeper than it first appears". By the end, when he's just tying in as many references as he can and...ugh. Just ugh.

    However, finishing the series and looking back at how much the characters have accomplished and how much they've changed, it was an experience on par with the Lord of the Rings for me. I mean, the characters really, really changed. And to be frank, I thought the ending could not have been any better.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    cell was the worst book i've read of his by far

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    cell was the worst book i've read of his by far

    It was just so "Hey, people really liked the Stand, lets see if I can churn that out again".

    Woops, nope.

    Eli Roth is directing that, too. Wacky.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    eli roth can suck a dick

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I really really loved how Cell started out.

    And by the end I just really really hated the book.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Did you guys know that Apt Pupil was based on a novella by Stephen King?

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    And as far as Stephen King on the whole goes, it's absolute schlock. I mean, the man foreshadows with a goddamn mallet made out of bricks, and his clever little symbols are so fucking blatant. I feel like he wanted everyone to know how clever he was being and how much he was representing so he'd do everything but write his own Cliff's Notes which he would subsequently put in the back of the book so that no one would miss it.

    I don't think it's that scary, either. There is only one that I haven't been able to get through, and that's Salem's Lot, because for some reason that really got to me. I haven't read the Shining, either...that's supposed to be pretty creepy.

    However, sometimes I finish a hard Russian novel or am tired of psychology texts, and I need something I don't have to think about so much. Stephen King is that thing.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Did you guys know that Apt Pupil was based on a novella by Stephen King?

    i did because i read different seasons

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Did you guys know that Apt Pupil was based on a novella by Stephen King?

    That was a very good short story, I thought, actually.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

    him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I read the first dark Tower book on a recommendation

    it was mediocre

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    HakuninHakunin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Did you guys know that Apt Pupil was based on a novella by Stephen King?

    yes.

    what about it?

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

    him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn

    For realz.

    Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Haha, I love his foreshadowing.

    Especially the end of a chapter, "So and so is going to die within the next 20 pages."

    Except he does it in less words.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    eli roth is a disgusting bag of shit

    in interviews he's like "actually it's not gore porn at all there's very real messages there and social commentary people only see violence on the surface"

    shut up

    no it isn't

    where is the depth of message in hostel? that americans should exercise caution in other countries lest they find themselves trapped into a torture-slave ring?

    xenophobia, oh hey, that's nice.

    how about a little misogyny too, eli.

    fucking disgusting maggot.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

    him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn

    For realz.

    Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.

    no, just shit like Saw

    28 days later was awesome, for example

    it's just that every so often everyone becomes fascinated with ultraviolence

    one of my professors thinks that it's because people need to watch violence because there's so much war on the news but it's all sanitized

    so we need to see violence to realize that there's a war going on

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    yes sirtoons, it's hilarious to you and 5 other people, now shush up and stay silent as we berate him

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Did you guys know that Apt Pupil was based on a novella by Stephen King?

    i did because i read different seasons

    I read that one.
    That was the one with Shawshank Redemption, which is one of my favorite stories of all time, be it in print or the movie.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    the green mile was stephen king, too

    so was the running man, which is one of my favourite movies

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Saw movies
    Hostel movies
    Wolf Creek
    Turistas

    It just needs to stop

    When is the horror movie industry gonna go through another phase

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    I knew about Green Mile, but I didn't know about Running Man.
    I've never seen all of that movie.

    Shawshank, though, I watch every time it's on television. Every time.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

    him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn

    For realz.

    Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.

    no, just shit like Saw

    28 days later was awesome, for example

    it's just that every so often everyone becomes fascinated with ultraviolence

    one of my professors thinks that it's because people need to watch violence because there's so much war on the news but it's all sanitized

    so we need to see violence to realize that there's a war going on

    i call horseshit on that explanation

    It's one-upsmanship.

    Movies are more violent nowadays than they were 20 years ago. They also have more sex, more nudity, more swearing, more drugs, more crime.

    More of everything

    Part of that is because the film industry itself is larger, so there's just more of everything

    This creates a one-upsmanship.

    A day will come, if the film industry is as it is now and continues this trend, where for example it will be scandalous for a film to contain graphic depictions of rape showing actual penetration, but "softer" portrayels of rape (such as just grinding half-clothed bodies) won't even cause an uproar.

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Seriously, I enjoyed Jason X more than all of that slop.


    But for some reason I really liked The Hills Have Eyes(remake).

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    eli roth can suck a dick

    That I would not mind

    As long as I don't have to see his movies

    him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn

    For realz.

    Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.

    no, just shit like Saw

    28 days later was awesome, for example

    it's just that every so often everyone becomes fascinated with ultraviolence

    one of my professors thinks that it's because people need to watch violence because there's so much war on the news but it's all sanitized

    so we need to see violence to realize that there's a war going on

    28 Days Later was not American.

    I hate to be the "ololol America sux" guy, but in horror films it's absolutely true.

    I mean, Hostel and Hostel 2 were "skin boobs skin bleeding blood crying skin blood shit and blood and tears".

    Even if that isn't the case, most American horror films' idea of a good atmosphere is a dark screen and some waily music.

    Compare that to the shadows of the diseased humans in the traffic tunnel in 28 Days Later. That shit was fantastic.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    i call horseshit on that explanation

    It's one-upsmanship.

    Movies are more violent nowadays than they were 20 years ago.

    uhhhh nope

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Oh, I forgot about the Hills Have Eyes remake (and sequel)

    I liked the first one alright I guess

    But that brings up another point

    Why all the mutant rape?

    Just... why?

    What does it add to the movie and how can anyone possibly think that's entertaining to watch?

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Saw wasn't a bad movie.

    Yes, there was gore, but the gore wasn't the point.

    The point was, what would you do to stay alive?

    It was a mindfuck-movie, with gore on top.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    the green mile was stephen king, too

    so was the running man, which is one of my favourite movies

    Ahhhhnoooold.

    I didn't know it was even a movie, was watching FX or something a few months ago and reached a slow epiphany as to what I was viewing.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Wiggin wrote: »
    Saw wasn't a bad movie.

    Yes, there was gore, but the gore wasn't the point.

    The point was, what would you do to stay alive?

    It was a mindfuck-movie, with gore on top.

    i dunno, i only saw the first half

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i think the whole "torture porn as a genre is psychologically linked to americans being at war" is a bullshit idea.

    it's a trend that is popular for a variety of reasons far more complex than just "it's because of war"

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Also, I think the real scary movies were the old Hitchcock movies.

    Psycho still scares the piss out of me.

    Those movies weren't about what you saw, and were afraid of.

    It was all about making you afraid of what you didn't see.

    EDIT: The end of Saw is just "Whoa." Not for what happens to the guys, fairly predictable, but for other reasons, and the way everything connects.

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Horror movies aren't even supposed to be scary anymore.

    I was scared by The Ring and The Grudge though, but that's probably a personal fear of anything related to ghosts.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Wiggin wrote: »
    Also, I think the real scary movies were the old Hitchcock movies.

    Psycho still scares the piss out of me.

    Those movies weren't about what you saw, and were afraid of.

    It was all about making you afraid of what you didn't see.

    there's some freudian theory about how what interests us most is what we can't see

    also why i hear disturbia is good, it's a remake of rear window which is also about what we can't see

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