I have Everything's Eventual right here, I bought it around 3 months ago but never got to read it an of it.
I think I'll wait until I see the movie first before even opening it because I have no self control.
Uh, just to let you know, you could definitely, definitely read the story and not have the movie spoiled. The short story, at most, establishes the premise for the movie, as no way in fucking hell could you make a two-hour movie out of twenty pages of creepy shit or however long it was.
I have Everything's Eventual right here, I bought it around 3 months ago but never got to read it an of it.
I think I'll wait until I see the movie first before even opening it because I have no self control.
Uh, just to let you know, you could definitely, definitely read the story and not have the movie spoiled. The short story, at most, establishes the premise for the movie, as no way in fucking hell could you make a two-hour movie out of twenty pages of creepy shit or however long it was.
I'd look at it more as all the key points of the movie are in the short story. I'd really like to be surprised by the movie.
Which one of his anthologies had "Suffer The Little Children?
That one was really chilling
oh, that's the one with the teacher, right
uhh
skeleton crew, i think
Can I just say that Skeleton Crew was the shittiest book of his that I've ever read? I mean, I didn't like The Regulators, The Tommyknockers or Desperation, but Skeleton Crew was the only one that was so bad I just couldn't deal with it.
I've only reread a few of his; Hearts in Atlantis and the Stand because they were good, and Dark Tower because it's an incredible voyage.
Let me qualify that statement: I thought Stephen King took a fucking hammer to the gem that was the Dark Tower series. In the last three books, when he got into all that fucking "universe-hopping, time-travelling, Earth-Midworld-Earth-Midworld" bullshit, I just got sick and tired. I would have loved a series just based on the world of Gilead and all that itself, and even tying in Eddie and Susannah and Jake was ok, because it was just like "hey, check it out, this story is deeper than it first appears". By the end, when he's just tying in as many references as he can and...ugh. Just ugh.
However, finishing the series and looking back at how much the characters have accomplished and how much they've changed, it was an experience on par with the Lord of the Rings for me. I mean, the characters really, really changed. And to be frank, I thought the ending could not have been any better.
And as far as Stephen King on the whole goes, it's absolute schlock. I mean, the man foreshadows with a goddamn mallet made out of bricks, and his clever little symbols are so fucking blatant. I feel like he wanted everyone to know how clever he was being and how much he was representing so he'd do everything but write his own Cliff's Notes which he would subsequently put in the back of the book so that no one would miss it.
I don't think it's that scary, either. There is only one that I haven't been able to get through, and that's Salem's Lot, because for some reason that really got to me. I haven't read the Shining, either...that's supposed to be pretty creepy.
However, sometimes I finish a hard Russian novel or am tired of psychology texts, and I need something I don't have to think about so much. Stephen King is that thing.
in interviews he's like "actually it's not gore porn at all there's very real messages there and social commentary people only see violence on the surface"
shut up
no it isn't
where is the depth of message in hostel? that americans should exercise caution in other countries lest they find themselves trapped into a torture-slave ring?
him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn
For realz.
Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.
no, just shit like Saw
28 days later was awesome, for example
it's just that every so often everyone becomes fascinated with ultraviolence
one of my professors thinks that it's because people need to watch violence because there's so much war on the news but it's all sanitized
so we need to see violence to realize that there's a war going on
i call horseshit on that explanation
It's one-upsmanship.
Movies are more violent nowadays than they were 20 years ago. They also have more sex, more nudity, more swearing, more drugs, more crime.
More of everything
Part of that is because the film industry itself is larger, so there's just more of everything
This creates a one-upsmanship.
A day will come, if the film industry is as it is now and continues this trend, where for example it will be scandalous for a film to contain graphic depictions of rape showing actual penetration, but "softer" portrayels of rape (such as just grinding half-clothed bodies) won't even cause an uproar.
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1408 is a great short story, you should read it
EE isn't as good as deathbird stories (but then nothing is) but it's still really good
Uh, just to let you know, you could definitely, definitely read the story and not have the movie spoiled. The short story, at most, establishes the premise for the movie, as no way in fucking hell could you make a two-hour movie out of twenty pages of creepy shit or however long it was.
That one was really chilling
oh, that's the one with the teacher, right
uhh
skeleton crew, i think
I John Cusack.
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Can I just say that Skeleton Crew was the shittiest book of his that I've ever read? I mean, I didn't like The Regulators, The Tommyknockers or Desperation, but Skeleton Crew was the only one that was so bad I just couldn't deal with it.
I've only reread a few of his; Hearts in Atlantis and the Stand because they were good, and Dark Tower because it's an incredible voyage.
Let me qualify that statement: I thought Stephen King took a fucking hammer to the gem that was the Dark Tower series. In the last three books, when he got into all that fucking "universe-hopping, time-travelling, Earth-Midworld-Earth-Midworld" bullshit, I just got sick and tired. I would have loved a series just based on the world of Gilead and all that itself, and even tying in Eddie and Susannah and Jake was ok, because it was just like "hey, check it out, this story is deeper than it first appears". By the end, when he's just tying in as many references as he can and...ugh. Just ugh.
However, finishing the series and looking back at how much the characters have accomplished and how much they've changed, it was an experience on par with the Lord of the Rings for me. I mean, the characters really, really changed. And to be frank, I thought the ending could not have been any better.
It was just so "Hey, people really liked the Stand, lets see if I can churn that out again".
Woops, nope.
Eli Roth is directing that, too. Wacky.
That I would not mind
As long as I don't have to see his movies
And by the end I just really really hated the book.
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I don't think it's that scary, either. There is only one that I haven't been able to get through, and that's Salem's Lot, because for some reason that really got to me. I haven't read the Shining, either...that's supposed to be pretty creepy.
However, sometimes I finish a hard Russian novel or am tired of psychology texts, and I need something I don't have to think about so much. Stephen King is that thing.
i did because i read different seasons
That was a very good short story, I thought, actually.
him and the rest of the 'splat pack' should go make movies in romania or something so i don't have to hear about their torture porn
it was mediocre
yes.
what about it?
For realz.
Modern horror has devolved into snuff films and eerie music.
Especially the end of a chapter, "So and so is going to die within the next 20 pages."
Except he does it in less words.
in interviews he's like "actually it's not gore porn at all there's very real messages there and social commentary people only see violence on the surface"
shut up
no it isn't
where is the depth of message in hostel? that americans should exercise caution in other countries lest they find themselves trapped into a torture-slave ring?
xenophobia, oh hey, that's nice.
how about a little misogyny too, eli.
fucking disgusting maggot.
no, just shit like Saw
28 days later was awesome, for example
it's just that every so often everyone becomes fascinated with ultraviolence
one of my professors thinks that it's because people need to watch violence because there's so much war on the news but it's all sanitized
so we need to see violence to realize that there's a war going on
I read that one.
That was the one with Shawshank Redemption, which is one of my favorite stories of all time, be it in print or the movie.
so was the running man, which is one of my favourite movies
Hostel movies
Wolf Creek
Turistas
It just needs to stop
When is the horror movie industry gonna go through another phase
I've never seen all of that movie.
Shawshank, though, I watch every time it's on television. Every time.
i call horseshit on that explanation
It's one-upsmanship.
Movies are more violent nowadays than they were 20 years ago. They also have more sex, more nudity, more swearing, more drugs, more crime.
More of everything
Part of that is because the film industry itself is larger, so there's just more of everything
This creates a one-upsmanship.
A day will come, if the film industry is as it is now and continues this trend, where for example it will be scandalous for a film to contain graphic depictions of rape showing actual penetration, but "softer" portrayels of rape (such as just grinding half-clothed bodies) won't even cause an uproar.
But for some reason I really liked The Hills Have Eyes(remake).
28 Days Later was not American.
I hate to be the "ololol America sux" guy, but in horror films it's absolutely true.
I mean, Hostel and Hostel 2 were "skin boobs skin bleeding blood crying skin blood shit and blood and tears".
Even if that isn't the case, most American horror films' idea of a good atmosphere is a dark screen and some waily music.
Compare that to the shadows of the diseased humans in the traffic tunnel in 28 Days Later. That shit was fantastic.
uhhhh nope
I liked the first one alright I guess
But that brings up another point
Why all the mutant rape?
Just... why?
What does it add to the movie and how can anyone possibly think that's entertaining to watch?
Yes, there was gore, but the gore wasn't the point.
The point was, what would you do to stay alive?
It was a mindfuck-movie, with gore on top.
Ahhhhnoooold.
I didn't know it was even a movie, was watching FX or something a few months ago and reached a slow epiphany as to what I was viewing.
i dunno, i only saw the first half
it's a trend that is popular for a variety of reasons far more complex than just "it's because of war"
Psycho still scares the piss out of me.
Those movies weren't about what you saw, and were afraid of.
It was all about making you afraid of what you didn't see.
EDIT: The end of Saw is just "Whoa." Not for what happens to the guys, fairly predictable, but for other reasons, and the way everything connects.
I was scared by The Ring and The Grudge though, but that's probably a personal fear of anything related to ghosts.
there's some freudian theory about how what interests us most is what we can't see
also why i hear disturbia is good, it's a remake of rear window which is also about what we can't see