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Too Many Secrets

QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
edited February 2011 in Social Entropy++

1969. Two college computer hackers, Martin Brice and Cosmo, are hackin’ away late at night. Martin decides to make a pizza run. While he’s away the cops show up and bust Cosmo.

Cut to the present.

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Martin (Robert Redford) has now changed his last name to Bishop. He has continued his life of sneaky hacking, but now uses his powers for good (or at least is using them legally). He runs a special team of misfits:

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the conspiracy nut (Dan Aykroyd),

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the surly ex-CIA guy (Sidney Poitier),

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the young guy (River Phoenix),

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and the blind guy (David Strathairn) – who together get hired by banks and other organization to test their security systems by breaking into them. Then the NSA show up. They reveal to Martin that they know about his past, but are willing to overlook certain things if he and his team will retrieve a special decoding device from a mathematician. Long story short, they eventually realize that these guys aren’t the NSA and people start getting killed. Now Martin and his team need to stay alive, while uncovering the secrets of the device.

We've also got:

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Super hot Mary McDonnell.

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and Sir Ben Kingsley with a ponytail!

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and Stephen Toblowsky.

This is a fantastic movie that not a whole lot of people have seen.
They don’t make ‘em like this anymore. Well, in truth, they didn’t make ‘em like this back in 1992 either. I don’t know that there is any era where Sneakers truly fits in, now that I’m thinking about it. Though it definitely harkens back to a simpler time when a star-studded thriller could still be fun without helicopter chases, shaky-cam, and epic martial arts fights. It is kind of like The Conversation processed through the mass-appeal machine. There is nothing big or flashy about Sneakers. Nothing profoundly iconic. It is just good. Very good. It is almost hard to put a finger on the source of its goodness.

In fact, there are many reasons why Sneakers shouldn’t work. The characters on Martin’s team are somewhat poorly defined (a glaring hole which is cleverly plugged by some great casting). We never learn how the team was formed, or how they know Martin. While they each have personalities, they don’t necessarily have characters. Aykroyd and Strathairn are at least given quirky traits to delineate them (paranoid, blind). But much is made of the fact that Poitier used to be in the CIA, and it seems like at some point we’ll learn why he left/was kicked out. But we don’t really. And Phoenix barely even has a personality; there is nothing to give us a bead on him until the final scene of the film. But it doesn’t really matter, because it is Phoenix (which meant a lot more in 1992 than it does now, granted). Same for Poitier. More importantly, the rapport between Martin’s team is movie-fun-time at its best. The actors all click and the dialogue provided by Robinson and co-writers Lawrence Lasker and Walter F. Parkes is William Goldman-grade genial banter at its finest.

This is the sort of movie that sadly always gets lost to time. Because there is no reason you need to see it. It is not a definitive masterpiece of its genre, and Robinson has not had the kind of career that will inspire future generations of film buffs to examine his oeuvre; there will never be Phil Alden Robinson completists. But if you watch it. You’ll like it.

The highest praise I can think to give the movie is this…

From talking to people about Sneakers over the years, I would say the world can easily be broken down into two groups of people: 1) those who have never seen Sneakers, and 2) those who love Sneakers.
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So what are you waiting for?

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I love Sneakers.

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    DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I don't own many DVDs.

    I own this one because it's a really enjoyable movie.


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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Poitier's character is ex-CIA, not FBI.

    It really harkens back to spy thrillers from the early '70s. I appreciate the fact that it's not full of bullshit visual effects and gratuitous action scenes. It's just a solid, intelligent movie that relies on the characters working (and therefore the actors doing their g-d job), and I love it.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This look cool

    sort of like a tech thriller in the same vein as War Games

    I like that kind of thing, with the old school computers and the eightiest styles

    Might check it out

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    MonkeyfeetMonkeyfeet Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I've never seen Sneakers

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I saw this once as a kid

    and remember none of it

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    there was something about the blind guy remembering sounds from when he was being kidnapped I think?

    something about a bridge?

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    FrylockHolmesFrylockHolmes Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I also love this movie

    I think I need to rewatch the Conversation at some point because I kind of hated it when I saw it

    but I was also 14 and not at all prepared for a movie that was quite that slow

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    Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2011
    This was one of my favorites when I was younger!

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    the scene where River Phoenix could have anything he wanted from the Feds and only asked for that one female agent's number...yeah that was instructive for me :P

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Also forgot to mention that James Horner provided a bitchin' score for this movie, right before he started to plagiarize himself in every other movie he did.

    And seriously, Mary McDonnell is SO hot in this movie.

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    babyeatingjesusbabyeatingjesus Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This movie was one of my favorites as a teenager. Fuck yes Sneakers.

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    DeltaDelta Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I took it from Mother's wallet.

    It's too bad I don't have my Sneakers Av/Sig anymore.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    oh hey, this is on netflix canada.

    well now.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I also love this movie

    I think I need to rewatch the Conversation at some point because I kind of hated it when I saw it

    but I was also 14 and not at all prepared for a movie that was quite that slow

    The Conversation fucking owns

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Sneakers rules

    Robert Redford, yo

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    FramlingFramling FaceHead Geebs has bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I love Sneakers. Part of the triumvirate of great hacker movies.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Framling wrote: »
    I love Sneakers. Part of the triumvirate of great hacker movies.

    i sincerely hope you're not including Hackers as part of that triumvirate :|

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wait, a hacking movie that isn't terrible? I may have to check this out.
    I tend to get hung up on technical stuff in movies like this.

    Edit: Aw man it's not on instant.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Hackers is awesome fuck the haters.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Hackers is awesome fuck the haters.

    son are you drain bramaged?

    Hackers has a scene where two machines fight over a VHS tape. like, what.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    World peace.




    And a winnebago.

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This sounds nothing like Hackers so I will try to check it out

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I've never seen this movie but is that President Roslin up there

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    In checking quotes, it seems I don't remember it as well as I should. Looks like I'll be doing a rewatch tomorrow.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Sneakers is both very entertaining AND reasonably believable.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Hackers is awesome fuck the haters.

    son are you drain bramaged?

    Hackers has a scene where two machines fight over a VHS tape. like, what.

    You're doing an excellent job of backing up my argument there, and I appreciate it.

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    FrylockHolmesFrylockHolmes Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Sneakers is both very entertaining AND reasonably believable.

    it does do the annoying thing of having a scene where they "enhance" an image to see a small detail more clearly but otherwise yeah, I remember it being pretty plausible

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    As cool as a movie that pulls off realistic computer stuff is, the ones that don't just fail to bother me. Hackers is a completely ridiculous movie in so very many different ways, but I still never ever fail to enjoy watching it.

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    Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
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    CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Hackers rules

    Somehow I've never seen this Sneakers movie, and it has a lot of dudes I like in it.

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    StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    This movie is fantastic

    I hope they remake it in ten years with moderner technology

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    But oh yeah, Sneakers. Saw it a year ago or so and yes, it's quite good! Everyone should check it out!

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2011
    aw yeah, haven't seen this film in years

    shame it's not on instant

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Apparently the canadians get it, damn their eyes

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    canada gets something good?

    this is an outrage!

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

    Wargames
    is
    the
    best
    movie
    ever
    .

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2011
    except no one is saying this is the best film

    just saying it's a good film that's kind of been forgotten over the years

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    True. I just associate the term 'hacker/hacking' with that movie because it was the first time I heard about it. Now I'm not even sure if it's even mentioned in that movie...

    edit: though I just realize it's an amazing coincidence that both Wargames and Sneakers are both films I actually saw in a theater just after their release, in an era before I was even slightly interested in computers.

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