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Starcraft 2: Dustin "Trollface" Browder (also, sign up for CSL!)

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Thread is early due to the impending thread post explosion :P

    Also, gw on the hair/whip reference :D

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    EuphemonEuphemon itsudemo sagashiteiruyo dokka ni kimi no sugata woRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I felt the opposite, Dhal. Ganzi was controlling the match with his drops, regardless of their cost-efficiency, he kept Haypro in his base and got map control. Some clutch defense/micro lead to 3base t against 3base z, only z had one mining base.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Uh, I thought it was pretty extensively tested that CC first is not as good economically as the standard 12 rax 15 orbital into FE due to mules being so good?

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    EuphemonEuphemon itsudemo sagashiteiruyo dokka ni kimi no sugata woRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, CC first is worse economically and in army.

    3hatch before pool. BOSS.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Uh, I thought it was pretty extensively tested that CC first is not as good economically as the standard 12 rax 15 orbital into FE due to mules being so good?

    In before 'fuckin mules'

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    it might get you more money early but it doesn't get you more bases

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I think it's credit to HayprO's macro that he was in the first game for so long while under so much pressure and being stuck to 2 bases vs 2 base Terran. He just wasn't able to be efficient enough with his units to secure the 3rd, and wasn't really able to harass at all.

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    EuphemonEuphemon itsudemo sagashiteiruyo dokka ni kimi no sugata woRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Does having the CC slightly faster compared to a 1rax FE really matter though? Honestly curious.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Variable wrote: »
    it might get you more money early but it doesn't get you more bases

    I was referring to a 1rax FE. Does that not usually have a cc started by about 20 supply?

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I'd guess that going CC first puts you behind at the start, but you're going to have a bunch of extra SCVs later on due to the extra CC which will put you ahead.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    wtf is haypro doing

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I don't get this at all. Just what is haypro trying to do here. Missing cancels, not taking map control, isn't harassing, is just sticking to the same plan over and over.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    it might get you more money early but it doesn't get you more bases

    I was referring to a 1rax FE. Does that not usually have a cc started by about 20 supply?

    it's 4 supply later but you're also making an OC so it's later than it sounds

    I dunno I'm sure there have been lots of number people working on that but it makes sense to me to want to get a cc asap

    but I don't have numbers at all

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    sorry I'm super tired I don't even know if that makes sense. the oc build makes sense that it would be better but I can see this having an advantage in certain cases.

    just ignore me

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Haypro needs to just go into the terran mineral lines with his muta ball. No amount of turrets can stand up to that many.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Wow, I would not want to be a HayprO hatchery.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Haypro needs to just go into the terran mineral lines with his muta ball. No amount of turrets can stand up to that many.

    Yeah like, I'm kind of shocked he's not killing scv's, just exclusively engaging the army.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    I think HayprO might win this. If it was on any other map he'd have lost aaaaaaaaages ago, though.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Haypro has secured two bases of his own to take him to five and denied Terran's fifth himself.

    He's still got a strong chance.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Haypro has secured two bases of his own to take him to five and denied Terran's fifth himself.

    He's still got a strong chance.

    He just lost like 20 mutas to magic box failure, =/

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Looks like the force of my sheer rage has focused itself into physic energy and convinced haypro to make some infestors.

    Also, brolords.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    HayprO's 20 workers ahead if I read the blur correctly.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Nevermind, then. And another Hatchery not canceled. :-/

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    It's over. I'm really disapointed.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Kelly's basically right.

    Lack of backstabs/counters cost HayprO the game.

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    UrQuanLord88UrQuanLord88 Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    For a large map like that, shouldn't there should really be more nydus worms, just like in BW?

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    PoolCuePoolCue Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    poor haypro, oh well.

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    You can all visit Haypro's new website at deservedtolosegametwo.com

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    SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Common knowledge hallway

    Take that!

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    EzekielEzekiel Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    His Corkiness wrote: »
    Xeris's comments like these don't help dissuade me from that idea:
    Sponsors?: We're sponsored by pennies we picked up in the various ponds and fountains around the world. The money is there and ready to be given out to some amazing players!
    Who said we needed to have sponsors? Why can't I just be a millionaire who wants to run a league?

    That'd be very nice of him, but if someone wants to STAY a millionaire that's not very smart. This first season is going to be a biiiig test run.

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    I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    JAEF wrote: »
    You can all visit Haypro's new website at deservedtolosegametwo.com

    Yeah I wouldn't say that. That was a long game with a lot of back and forth and at times it really felt like haypro was getting the upper hand. He made a lot of mistakes, but to say he deserved to lose it is just ridiculous.

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    His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    JAEF wrote: »
    You can all visit Haypro's new website at deservedtolosegametwo.com
    What are you talking about? TL has informed me that HayprO lost due to imba Marines and the fact that these new maps are bad for Zerg!

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Anzekay wrote: »
    JAEF wrote: »
    You can all visit Haypro's new website at deservedtolosegametwo.com

    Yeah I wouldn't say that. That was a long game with a lot of back and forth and at times it really felt like haypro was getting the upper hand. He made a lot of mistakes, but to say he deserved to lose it is just ridiculous.

    Eh, you're playing to lose if you have 50 or so mutas and you only hit their mineral line one single time. On the terran's 5th base.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Xeris is arguing some fucking stupid things in the NASL thread on TL.

    Trying to claim that Koreans aren't better at SC2, that the foreigners are doing just as well. Uh, yeah, the foreigners that are IN Korea.

    Its like he's assuming we're arguing that Koreans are genetically predisposed to being superior at SC2. Its not that at all. Its the environment and the regimen that they have there that produces such brilliant players. You can't look at Jinro and IdrA and say "look, Westerners can be just as good at SC2!!!" because for the purposes of such a discussion, Jinro and IdrA ARE Koreans, they are a product of that environment and they benefit from it.

    Western gaming teams are more like clans. A bunch of guys who kind of hang out together online, play games together, and hang out in the same Ventrilo with shared tags. This is a far cry from the true TEAMS that are in Korea, and given only a year or two, there will be no competing with them.

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    fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    How will they keep internet matches secret if the games aren't live? Match History?

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    JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    When around Koreans, never relax.

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    EzekielEzekiel Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    JAEF wrote: »
    When around Koreans, never relax.

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    MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    Was Coca hyperventilating, poor guy.

    Also, The sound is all kinds of outta sync for me.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited February 2011
    fadingathedges wrote: »
    How will they keep internet matches secret if the games aren't live? Match History?

    Trying to convince blizzard to supply secret alt accounts.

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    peacekeeperpeacekeeper AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2011
    just give us the ability to toggle match history on and off, give it public or private settings, something, it has no purpose

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