Look, this is really fucking simple. Kusu tried to make a point that would have made sense if he'd actually iterated it in a semi-intelligent manner. Hunter misunderstood what he meant, not because Hunter's stupid or a pedant but because Kusu expressed himself very poorly. Then when given an opportunity to simply clarify what he meant (which could have been done very simply if that was in fact what he meant all along), he instead got into a stupid argument about what he said and what he meant. So Hunter may be silly for dragging this out with Kusu, but ultimately the idiot prize goes to Kusu for just being really idiotic about the whole thing and not just owning up that he really fucking garbled his alleged message. I say alleged because I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's just backpedaling to pretend that's what he meant all along. Who the fuck knows.
naw, it's more that you do the exact same thing as Hunter pretty regularly in that you ascribe your own failure to parse to the perceived flaws of others
I've admitted that I could have made one point in my argument more clearly, but I think that speaking ambiguously is much, much less obnoxious than claiming that I've said things that I haven't
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So you think I'm manufacturing all sorts of stuff, while you manufacture a hidden agenda behind a survey and bring Michael Moore into it?
Honestly, I'm impressed by your effort.
what is so "hidden" about the agenda here?
do you legitimately think that this survey was conducted out of an unbiased interest in the state of human knowledge?
oh my lord.
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
So you think I'm manufacturing all sorts of stuff, while you manufacture a hidden agenda behind a survey and bring Michael Moore into it?
Honestly, I'm impressed by your effort.
what is so "hidden" about the agenda here?
do you legitimately think that this survey was conducted out of an unbiased interest in the state of human knowledge?
oh my lord.
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
are you seriously calling me a conspiracy theorist for claiming that there is some bias inherent to surveys that intend to illustrate how idiotic vast swathes of the population are?
you think the survey you posted is absolutely 100% unbiased and objective, and was not conceived with the purpose of making a particular point?
Hunter, that is fucking moronic.
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Of course, yes, those on the wrong side of history always try the intellectually lazy track of claiming the subject in question isn't human.
Also argue economic penury, lifestyle change... sound familiar?
Interesting. Now, if a pregnant woman accidentally causes a car accident and her pregnancy is terminated early - should she be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
I refuse to believe there is an evil spirit of disinformation enchanting people's minds, or a nefarious system in place replacing knowledge with faulty information..
Oh hey that's pretty darn cool.
I mean, I don't believe in strict creationism, and I can certainly see how said belief could lead to bad policies.
I am just relieved that the "Human's evolved, God had no part in the process" section is still only like 16%.
It's pretty cool that so many people believe in a God.
well then, bad news, because the gaps are getting smaller
just out of curiosity, what is better about a society that believes in evolution guided by god than a society that understands evolution and doesn't see a need for the god hypothesis?
I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically, that a godless world be lacking virtues and such, which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then you of course, have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
Of course, yes, those on the wrong side of history always try the intellectually lazy track of claiming the subject in question isn't human.
Also argue economic penury, lifestyle change... sound familiar?
Interesting. Now, if a pregnant woman accidentally causes a car accident and her pregnancy is terminated early - should she be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
Well duh
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So you think I'm manufacturing all sorts of stuff, while you manufacture a hidden agenda behind a survey and bring Michael Moore into it?
Honestly, I'm impressed by your effort.
what is so "hidden" about the agenda here?
do you legitimately think that this survey was conducted out of an unbiased interest in the state of human knowledge?
oh my lord.
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
I don't know why you are taking it to these extremes.
It is entirely possible that it was just a shitty writer who had an idea and did what he had to do to write the article he wanted to write.
It doesn't have to be more sinister or crazy than that.
I refuse to believe there is an evil spirit of disinformation enchanting people's minds, or a nefarious system in place replacing knowledge with faulty information..
Oh hey that's pretty darn cool.
I mean, I don't believe in strict creationism, and I can certainly see how said belief could lead to bad policies.
I am just relieved that the "Human's evolved, God had no part in the process" section is still only like 16%.
It's pretty cool that so many people believe in a God.
well then, bad news, because the gaps are getting smaller
just out of curiosity, what is better about a society that believes in evolution guided by god than a society that understands evolution and doesn't see a need for the god hypothesis?
I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically that a godless world be lacking virtues and such. which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then, you of course have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
Wow. This post is pretty fucking amazing in how naively bigoted it is.
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Interesting. Now, if a pregnant woman accidentally causes a car accident and her pregnancy is terminated early - should she be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
Not unless there were special circumstances involved - like, whatever the standard for regular accidents should be applied.
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I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically that a godless world be lacking virtues and such. which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then, you of course have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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So you think I'm manufacturing all sorts of stuff, while you manufacture a hidden agenda behind a survey and bring Michael Moore into it?
Honestly, I'm impressed by your effort.
what is so "hidden" about the agenda here?
do you legitimately think that this survey was conducted out of an unbiased interest in the state of human knowledge?
oh my lord.
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
I don't know why you are taking it to these extremes.
It is entirely possible that it was just a shitty writer who had an idea and did what he had to do to write the article he wanted to write.
It doesn't have to be more sinister or crazy than that.
Did you mean Charles Kinbote the crazy or me, because I was joking about the islamo-communists.
Interesting. Now, if a pregnant woman accidentally causes a car accident and her pregnancy is terminated early - should she be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
Not unless there were special circumstances involved - like, whatever the standard for regular accidents should be applied.
I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically that a godless world be lacking virtues and such. which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then, you of course have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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What spring does with the cherry trees.
I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically that a godless world be lacking virtues and such. which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then, you of course have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Seriously, it's kind of amazing that as a professed Christian he seems to be ignorant of the core message of the New Testament, that we are all sinners and that heaven can only be attained through Christ's sacrifice. No, no, Christians are just better people and get into heaven by not sinning. Riiiiight.
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can we just sum it up by saying that americans is dumb at sciences irregardless of the survey sample type?
Even that is a disingenious assertation
Ranked by country, Americans rank 2nd behind the swedes. (Not a close 2nd, mind you)
Not that I don't feel the 'scientific literacy' rate shouldn't be higher; personally, I feel our political landscape could greatly benefit from a significantly increased understanding of scientific knowledge, and could even potentially turn the tide of the religious bloc's current campaign against science; Which it treats as if it were another religion competing for followers.
If a man and a pregnant woman have unprotected sex and the man's ejaculate gets on the baby, should he then be charged with pedophilia? Should the woman be charged with it as well?
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Is Sweden like some sort of super country? They beat everyone at everything.
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you know what, no. never mind. this thread is awful
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That's original sin you're thinking of cloudman
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So you think I'm manufacturing all sorts of stuff, while you manufacture a hidden agenda behind a survey and bring Michael Moore into it?
Honestly, I'm impressed by your effort.
what is so "hidden" about the agenda here?
do you legitimately think that this survey was conducted out of an unbiased interest in the state of human knowledge?
oh my lord.
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
I don't know why you are taking it to these extremes.
It is entirely possible that it was just a shitty writer who had an idea and did what he had to do to write the article he wanted to write.
It doesn't have to be more sinister or crazy than that.
Did you mean Charles Kinbote the crazy or me, because I was joking about the islamo-communists.
Oh. Either really. I was just trying to say he doesn't necessarily have to be thinking it is one of those things to think the article has an agenda.
But then again I haven't actually been reading his posts all that closely.
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naw, it's more that you do the exact same thing as Hunter pretty regularly in that you ascribe your own failure to parse to the perceived flaws of others
I've admitted that I could have made one point in my argument more clearly, but I think that speaking ambiguously is much, much less obnoxious than claiming that I've said things that I haven't
What's hidden is that nobody wrote the title of their secret agenda on the top of the picture, so it's just a speculation at this point if the conspiracy is jewish space lizard or islamo-communist radical related.
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does it really matter
You only test the poor ones Hunter
This is not indicative of overall metal intelligence
at least the "yu" thing is gone
Of course, yes, those on the wrong side of history always try the intellectually lazy track of claiming the subject in question isn't human.
Also argue economic penury, lifestyle change... sound familiar?
are you seriously calling me a conspiracy theorist for claiming that there is some bias inherent to surveys that intend to illustrate how idiotic vast swathes of the population are?
you think the survey you posted is absolutely 100% unbiased and objective, and was not conceived with the purpose of making a particular point?
Hunter, that is fucking moronic.
I think the belief in a god is something that provides spirituality, imagination, and concepts of morality.
I feel it's an important aspect in the way that humanity can strive to become something better- more god like- if you will.
Now obviously, people can strive to be better without believing in a god.
It's just my belief that it isn't as successful. Piety is grown really well by Theism. Basically, that a godless world be lacking virtues and such, which couldn't be replicated without it.
Then you of course, have my biased christian answer.
Which would be that less people would be free from sin, less would find the mercy of Christ, etc.
Well duh
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I don't know why you are taking it to these extremes.
It is entirely possible that it was just a shitty writer who had an idea and did what he had to do to write the article he wanted to write.
It doesn't have to be more sinister or crazy than that.
Wow. This post is pretty fucking amazing in how naively bigoted it is.
Just don't use "irregardless" and the answer is yes.
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Not unless there were special circumstances involved - like, whatever the standard for regular accidents should be applied.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
thanx
Did you mean Charles Kinbote the crazy or me, because I was joking about the islamo-communists.
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Isn't woman driver enough?
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What spring does with the cherry trees.
Seriously, it's kind of amazing that as a professed Christian he seems to be ignorant of the core message of the New Testament, that we are all sinners and that heaven can only be attained through Christ's sacrifice. No, no, Christians are just better people and get into heaven by not sinning. Riiiiight.
Even that is a disingenious assertation
Ranked by country, Americans rank 2nd behind the swedes. (Not a close 2nd, mind you)
Not that I don't feel the 'scientific literacy' rate shouldn't be higher; personally, I feel our political landscape could greatly benefit from a significantly increased understanding of scientific knowledge, and could even potentially turn the tide of the religious bloc's current campaign against science; Which it treats as if it were another religion competing for followers.
Well, on the plus side, they could then become a part of our thriving prison system, which would be good for the economy.
or at least that's what i was taught
you're misinterpreting what he is saying, dru.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
Oh. Either really. I was just trying to say he doesn't necessarily have to be thinking it is one of those things to think the article has an agenda.
But then again I haven't actually been reading his posts all that closely.