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    EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Help me doodle thread, you're my only hope.

    I can't draw well [worth shit] but I'm trying to make a world map for a project I'm working on.

    The map's pretty big but I'm having problems with one main part - the canyons. I can draw mountains till the cows come home, but the moment I have to draw canyons and valleys and stuff, I can't do it.

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    The map I'm working on needs a web of canyons right around that area of the map, but I have no idea how to draw the recesses in the proper thatched style. :\ I've combed the internet for references, but I can't find anything useful.

    Any advice?

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    JusticePunkJusticePunk Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Dudl3
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    --=DJ=----=DJ=-- Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Mustang wrote: »
    DJ your last few drawings have been insanely cool. This last one especially. Love it.

    Thanks!
    DJ- I really like that style you have been developing-

    I might try just toning her skin- ever so slightly. Like a very light gray kind of stretched over where her cheecks might be a bit rosy, and the nose- like tonally describing the texture of the skin- but not really rendering it via a lightsource. Skin has alot of natural variations, so you can preserve your really nice linework, and still give the figure a little more body- without having to adhere to cast shadows and a bold lightsource. It will retain the positive aspects of your design.

    That's a fantastic idea. The trouble I have is because I lazily use only a 2H mechanical pencil, I'm moderately limited in the variation of tone I can use.

    I've been toying with the idea of going back to an old graphite/Copic marker combination I used to use in order to retain the linework in addition to giving it some tonal variation. ( Old-school example: http://hustletronix.com/nick/art/2004/soldier2.jpg )
    About how long do these take you DJ?

    I've been allotting myself between 10 and 20 minutes for these sketches depending on the size of the drawing, focusing on gestures and quickly building up the forms. Still quite rusty though since this is the most sketching i've done in a couple of years.

    Nice ink work, JP. Has a nice Frank-Miller-in-his-prime kind of feel.

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I dunno, Ein. It looks pretty okay to me. You've got all sorts of perspectives clashing with each other in that fantasy map way, so that seems fine. What I thought you could do is show the gradual slope out of the canyon, like so:

    IlOoA.jpg

    Aren't most canyons carved by rivers, though?

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    ObilexObilex Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    DMAC: stunning work as always. My only gripe is the bottom fella's right tooth (our left) seems to be in front or growing out of his lip, rather than inside his mouth like the other tooth.

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    EinEin CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Round 2 with the canyons. It's maybe not in exactly the same style as the rest of the map, but I'm feeling better about em.

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    m3nacem3nace Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ein, those canyons look way better and they don't look like another style to me.

    Wip, a tribute to Redwall.
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    ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    --=DJ=-- wrote: »

    I've been allotting myself between 10 and 20 minutes...

    !!!???!!!???!!!???!!!???!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!???!!????!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!? o.0

    And here I thought I was improving LOL

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    Mes3Mes3 Lurking behind your toilet Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I do color, sometimes.

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    These were fun.

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    Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Fixed this from a while back, as per the critiques I received.

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    ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ok so i tried a new image hosting site, one that wasn't blocked immediately, and it sucks, so I edited the post rofl

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    LeggraphicsLeggraphics Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cant seem to find my thread :(

    Here is my new Demo reel. I chucked together a heap of stuff into the wee hours of the morning.

    Nothing from the agency I work for - all my own stuff done in my spare time just to avoid any issues.
    Feedback welcome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHBo0CcYgKA

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    LeggraphicsLeggraphics Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Winter Combat Knight -

    Your vector work is awesome....!!! Love those characters - reminds me of Castle Crashers.

    Where abouts are you doing your Internship? Adelaide I am guessing ? Rising Sun?

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    KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

    Also right before the bear I'm not so sure about the disco swastika.

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    --=DJ=----=DJ=-- Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Mo' sketching.

    elderly.jpg

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    TheExAmTheExAm Gerrymandered your districts Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

    Also right before the bear I'm not so sure about the disco swastika.

    I didn't notice anything overtly swasticky about it.

    Something you want to tell us, Bacon?

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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2011
    TheExAm wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

    Also right before the bear I'm not so sure about the disco swastika.

    I didn't notice anything overtly swasticky about it.

    Something you want to tell us, Bacon?

    pause at 0:38

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Radar, I didn't bring it up when you first posted your progress on that, but I think your colors are doing Tam's lines some sweet justice.

    DJ, it's good to see your art again. These new sketches are looking pretty cool. A little closer observation would go a long way for the details (like the hands).

    ---

    I actually have some doodle doodles. The concept work variety. I'll put them behind a spoiler tag so they're not a million pixels long.
    Philip1.jpg
    Philip2.jpg
    CondeSerf1.jpg
    Philip753rd1.jpg
    So much designing for just a short story...

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    m3nacem3nace Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TheExAm wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

    Also right before the bear I'm not so sure about the disco swastika.

    I didn't notice anything overtly swasticky about it.

    Something you want to tell us, Bacon?

    pause at 0:38
    I immediately noticed it too.

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    ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    DJ!!! Where have you been all my life!? Like ALL of it!? Srsly, do you have a link to some more work? These sketches are fantastick

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    TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I kind of want to color it myself now

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    TheExAmTheExAm Gerrymandered your districts Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TheExAm wrote: »
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Legg, I would cut the bear at :42 and the... chocolate... on a stick at :56. The bear is very colins bear and the.. uhh... well, it looks like poop.

    Also right before the bear I'm not so sure about the disco swastika.

    I didn't notice anything overtly swasticky about it.

    Something you want to tell us, Bacon?

    pause at 0:38

    It's out of alignment and the arms are different lengths. By that logic I'd get offended every time I walked past a dutch windmill.

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    EWomEWom Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    I don't know, if you pause it, you can see it's not a swastika, but when it's in action it goes so fast it really does look like a swastika.

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Guys, I've been staring at this all day and I can't decide if they look enough like kids or if the composition is shit. I really think it has potential, but I just can't look at it anymore today. Please guide me.
    edit: update below

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    Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    All the legs are too short, and it's accentuated by the fact that all the people are very short. And also have crazy different head sizes. The girl's is much, much smaller than the two guys, which probably wouldn't be that extreme of a difference and it makes it look more like error rather than style. Also your characters are like, four or five heads tall which makes them roughly dwarfish in size. Which is fine if they're kids, but their faces imply more teen/young adult features.

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Here's a good writeup on how to draw kid faces.

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    ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yes, consult Toji's link, consult Loomis' FDFAIW section on boy's proportions, consult reference. All 3 kids are problematic: The boy on the left is an awkward amalgam of adult and child proportions, the girl looks like she's 2 feet tall, the fat boy has Cotton Hill syndrome, even accounting for some stylistic license.

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    LeggraphicsLeggraphics Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Oh god I do not want it to look like a swastika.!!!!!!!!

    I did not even notice. DAMMMMIT. I will change it up a bit

    Also thanks for the feedback - It's odd because I love the chocolate bear ( yes chocolate ) but thats what feedback is about - getting it seen through others eyes.

    Thanks Peeps

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    OK, I tried a quick fix: I think it looks better but I should probably just start over...

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Frank, I think you might benefit from doing some quick studies of tween faces before returning to this particular drawing. I think it's an improvement over the previous one, but it's hard to tell without comparison. Still not quite there, but a step in the right direction.


    More design stuff:
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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Thanks, Toji. You're right.

    edit: ok "young teen boy" and "young teen girl" are not good google searches.

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    ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Not really no. I'm glad you learned that the hard way XD

    Things you should also not image search in google:

    Oklahoma
    Red Head
    Lady
    Girl
    Teen-anything

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    m3nacem3nace Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    How can Oklah-ohgod... Defuck

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    no_toastno_toast Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    It's been so long since I posted anything so here goes!

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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Hey! That's really nice. I think you should bring out the darker values a little more on the girl, to make it pop some. Cool colors! :)

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    sharky tsharky t LondonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2011
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    F87F87 So Say We All Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Nice one, Sharky! :) That voldemort is awesome.

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    Guys, I can't draw pre-teen to teen faces!! -_-

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    JusticePunkJusticePunk Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    I'd say watch some movies that deal with teenagers. "School of Rock" "Super 8" "Jack""E.T". The 80's had a lot of movies dealing with teenagers and tweenagers.

    Also, flip on the Disney channel.

    Faces
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    Woke up drawing Le Nud3-NSFW I guess. They're modest nudes.
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    I'm off to work.

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    m3nacem3nace Registered User regular
    edited July 2011
    Ohhh you nailed it sharky!

    Here, have a doodle of an old guy.
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