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[Mini] - WoD of Darkness Game Over! Vampire Victory!
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BECAUSE I DIDN'T READ THE PART OF THE OP THAT STATES THIS IS MORE OF A TRADITIONAL GAME AND THOUGHT IT WAS A DUAL MAFIA CLUSTERFUCK :<
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garroad_ran is trying too hard to get the vig killed.
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All right, regardless, the actual vig would have no incentive to call Ringo's shot. I mean, what the fuck people, is there something I'm missing here?
The good vig would have every incentive to not call Ringo's shot, because it would reveal he was lying. The only reason I can think of for the vig to call Ringo's shot, on second thought, would be to throw the mafia off the scent. But that doesn't seem worth the confusion among the village it would cause and the chance that Ringo actually was mafia or something like that.
WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING MISSING IS THAT WHILE THERE'S NO PARTICULAR REASON TO VOTE OUT RINGO, THERE'S ALSO NO PARTICULAR REASON TO ASSUME THE VIGS KILL COINCIDED WITH RINGOS CALL FOR NO PARTICULAR REASON. MAYBE HE JUST HAD ZERO FUCKS TO GIVE ABOUT RINGOS BOASTING. WHO KNOWS.
THE POINT IS THAT GIVEN RINGOS HISTORY THERE'S REASON TO BELIEVE HE AIN'T SHIT. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT THE VIG DIDN'T EVEN READ RINGOS BULLSHIT?
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Its not?
Pretty sure my PM says that I need the werewolves gone just as much as I need the vampires gone so I don't know why people are assuming that the werewolves are good.
Colours mean shit all people. There's been countless games where the traditional colour scheme has no meaning on actual game mechanics.
However, what is telling is the sheer amount of kills and the lack of any non-werewolf/vampire ones. To me, that atleast means that we can't be expected to fight both of them and either they need to kill eachother (likely) or one of them is on our team.
Also Capfalcon is mafia, merely by virtue of me being awesome at picking out mafia day 1. I'm not actually a seer and if I was, how would I call him out that early anyway?
Lastly, I wouldn't mind hearing if ringo is actually some sort of vig rather than just some rube being framed by the werewolves.
Which is odd wording.
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All I'm saying is, wait for some confirmation before jumping to conclusions.
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Err what?
Ringo calls kills all the time. He fucked up and called one early.
The vig could easily see that and think " i know, i'll hit alegis so that the village/mafia think Ringo is the vig".
OR
He could have just fucked up.
I think the former is more likely as in the case of the latter, he could change his kill.
Yes, there is a 1 in 30 chance of that happening (or whatever).
I'm not saying that Ringo is definitely the vig, what I am saying is that he is mostly likely the vig and that people auto-voting for him need to stfu.
Also:
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WOOP WOOP ALL ABOARD THE READING RAINBOW
"There is a mafia, out to dominate, control, and feed off humanity. The majority of players will be your average, run of the mill human beings, just trying to get by. They are not interested in being dominated, controlled, and fed off. Thankfully, there is also a group of individuals who are also not to keen on that happening."
A MAFIA, SINGULAR. A GROUP THAT ISN'T INTERESTED IN BEING DOMINATED, CONTROLLED, OR FED OFF OF. SSSSSSSINGULAR. THAT'S THE WOLFIES. THEY'RE ON OUR SIDE.
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This just seems like terrible strategy on the vig's part, but ok.
E: Also I'm not convinced green text necessarily means village-aligned. The guy with frozen insides was killed by green text and that sounds neither werewolf-y nor good.
So... That Wyrm... He sounds pretty bad eh?
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Lol really?
If I was a vig i'd do it. Then the mafia would waste a kill on Ringo instead of a kill that could potentially hit a special.
Alternatively, the village would spend the next day trying to figure out distracted trying to figure out wtf is with Ringo.
I think that could be pretty risky, anyway, because if Ringo turned out to be mafia that would be awkward. But I guess then the actual vig would just step forward.
I'm confused, though - does it matter what Ringo says when he comes in? If he claims to be the vig then either:
A) He's decided to keep up the ruse for at least another day, having realized that the vig wants to hide out.
He's actually the vig.
Regardless of which is the case, it seems to me that the best play for him to do in either case is to claim he's the vig. Right?
The best bet for us at the moment, is to just ignore it until we get more information and talk about who we think is mafia.
3 possibilities i see.
3clipse with mafia tourettes.
and kuhlmeye or capfalcon with throwaway votes late in the day.
Then I'd get to have ANGST
Insides frozen?
Well, there's a Brujah in them Kindred, sounds like someone got Puissance Smashed.
He is subsequently reminded of the correct vote close time, and doesn't change his kill?
Once again: there is no reason to believe or suspect that ringo is the vig.
... the village is confused on whether Ringo's (joking?) kill call confirmed him as a werewolf vig...
... and the village is confused on whether werewolves should be killed as mafias or not...
Okay, got it. Clear as mud. Thing is, why the hell would Ringo call a kill to confirm himswlf as a werewolf when either the vamps or the village (or both) would certainly murder him the next day.
Do the werewolves go home WHEN the vampires are eliminated?
3clipse is okay, but doesn't actually strike me as mafia.
also: look at who isn't talking much. we WILL improve phalla meta! we will!
Well, the typical reason is so that the guard will guard them, or the seer will feed them info, etc.
When the threat of the vampires is eliminated, the werewolves will no longer stalk through the streets of Las Vegas, and the game will end with a village victory.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm down for that! But there's definitely some threads worth investigating right now
Keep on keepin' on you big fuzzy cuddly dudes.
Don't kill Ringo. He can call another kill tonight (properly this time) if he want's to claim vig.
I wouldn't be so quick to cuddle the garou yet.
And a werewolf victory?
Denied, werewolves know what their victory condition is.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche