[Star Trek] Let's make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise

Foomy

emp123 wrote:

Foomy wrote:

Mr_Rose wrote:

L Ron Howard wrote:

Isn't Data (and Lor and all them) pretty much the defining point of the Technological Singularity? I mean, they are self-realized AI that can keep up with humans and outperform them in many ways. Once anyone figures out how to copy over a human's mind into a Data-like android, doesn't that pretty much mean the Singularity has been fully realized?

Some guy did.
Totally took over Data's brain for a while there, until they convinced him that doing so was killing Data and that this was unfair since he'd already lived his natural lifespan (his original body being dead) so he deliquesced himself, out of sheer remorse, by uploading to the ship's computer.
Apparently this essentially turned his memories into an annotated autobiography and lecture tour, which presumably included the "how to upload to an android brain" DIY guide. Dunno what they did next.

Data's mother Juliana Tainer was copied over into an android body superiors to data's, and had the increased metal capabilities from doing so. Too bad no one but Dr.Soong knows how to make androids that advanced and didn't bother to tell anyone how.

Wasn't that body also programmed to die though? Or did she just hit a programming snag and degrade/die?

Soong put some extra programming into the body to shut down if she ever discovered she was an anroid, and to also shut down and destroy her positronic matrix after a long life.

He could of just not added those bits and she would pretty much live forever baring some sort of crazy accident. Soong type androids seem to be pretty hard to destroy though.

Mr_Rose

What's interesting is that there are vague hints that Future People, from the PoV of the TNG era at least, are regularly engineered to unheard of levels. Admittedly a lot of those are from Enterprise but still there appears to have been an agenda to pursue enhanced humans as a major plot item (instead of "monster of the week") at one point.

Johannen

Was watching the Dragoncon 2009 video of Shatner and Nimoy, and a 1991 video of them doing a stage show, and they're possibly two of the most brilliant people I have ever seen on film.

They should just make a Star Trek comedy film with them as a double act.

Pi-r8

Modern Man wrote:

shryke wrote:

It's the Federation. They are like Scandinavia on crack. I'm sure 5 years is the max sentence available or something.

I wonder how they handle serial killers and other murderers? What about violent rapists?

Voyager had that one character who was a sociopath. His only punishment I think was being confined to quarters and having to do a lot of counseling sessions with Tuvok.

Modern Man wrote:

emp123 wrote:

I think its the whole superior intellect breeds superior ambition thing.

Which is an odd position. It's not like people who go to MIT or Harvard typically end up becoming supervillains.

Something like 25% of them now go to work in the finance industry so... yeah.

adytum

Dukat is such an epic poon hound.

"Oh, hey Kira, I nailed your mom.. wanna do it?"

And when that didn't work he started a sex cult.

Xenogears of Bore

That episode is so disturbing.

Attempted matricide, sex slaves, epic poon hound space nazi.

emp123

Did you know Dr. Pulaski is both blind and a telepath? I think this may explain a couple of things about her.

Actors only play one character on Star Trek right? So Diana Muldaur's time as the blind telepath lady in TOS is really just backstory of a hidden past for Dr. Pulaski right? Because Star Trek loves continuity right?

The lady who plays Dr. Pulaski is in 2 TOS episodes, and while I didnt recognize her in the first one I totally did in the second.

adytum

If I had the time I'd totally photoshop up an awkward family photo with those two Bajorians and their half-cardassian miracle baby.

emp123

God, the more I think about the whole Kira, Dukat, Kira's mom thing the worse it seems. Like, its one thing to find out your mom was boning the enemy to save you or whatever and you can talk to her about it since its a fundamental change in what you believed her character to be, but its another to not be able to talk to either parent about it and instead be forced to rationalize her decisions on your own which in all likelihood will result in you always questioning her "motives" (ie those that you have assigned to her) in the back of your mind. That shit will drive you crazy.

For Kira's sake I just hope the orb thing was fucking with her.

Mr_Rose

emp123 wrote:

God, the more I think about the whole Kira, Dukat, Kira's mom thing the worse it seems. Like, its one thing to find out your mom was boning the enemy to save you or whatever and you can talk to her about it since its a fundamental change in what you believed her character to be, but its another to not be able to talk to either parent about it and instead be forced to rationalize her decisions on your own which in all likelihood will result in you always questioning her "motives" (ie those that you have assigned to her) in the back of your mind. That shit will drive you crazy.

For Kira's sake I just hope the orb thing was fucking with her.

The 'orb things' exist purely to fuck with people, it is their raison d'etre as the French say. Mostly though, the people they are fucking with are the audience. After all that was the same orb that took the Defiant back in time, so it's entirely possible that Kira was actually present at the events depicted and did actually save Dukat's life, almost by accident. And further, that Dukat's fascination with Kira the rebel is based on her resemblance to the Bajoran woman who warned him and his consort of an attack, rather than on her being his consort's daughter...

Xenogears of Bore

The prophets have more then once broken conventional trek time travel theories; everyone remembers the false emissary even when he was sent back, pretty much everything with the orb of time, the whole sisko is a half prophet thing.

adytum

When did Dukat even find the time to conceive Tora Naprem

emp123

adytum wrote:

When did Dukat even find the time to conceive Tora Naprem

Well when youre running a space harem station its nice to be in charge.

adytum

Reading the wiki, it looks like he conceived Tora Neprem during the same period Kira's mom was dying.

He's the John Edwards of Cardassia.

adytum

On second thought, he might be the Newt Gingrich of Cardassia.

"I loved Bajor so much.. I had to have sex with all of their women."

Rami

I totally saw Tuvok as a human terrorist trying to smuggle explosives off the Enterprise in a recent episode of TNG.

Jacobkosh

Rami wrote:

I totally saw Tuvok as a human terrorist trying to smuggle explosives off the Enterprise in a recent episode of TNG.

something like half the cast of Voyager are also-rans and extras from Star Trek shows

also it is time for a new thread