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Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword: With Thread and Post

SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
edited May 2011 in Social Entropy++
So a new Mount and Blade game is about to come out with the fairly weird name of....
Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword
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Don't be fooled by the name, which for some reason doubles as a lackluster list of the game's content. Don't be fooled by the graphics, which look like the game was made by two people. Which it was. If the previous games in the series are anything to go by. and they are, because I said so, this new installment is going to be an addictive barrel of fun.

These games have a fun and unique combat system, replayability in the same league of the civilisation games, and the ability to command your own army while at the same time being in the think of it yourself.

Unless you're me, in which case you let the army sort themselves out while you charge ahead and gut archers on a pike while giggling maniacally.
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All this is well and good, but what does this new game have to offer? Good question, hypothetical person I just made up right now. I'll let the steam description speak for itself.
A storyline based on the cult novel, "With Fire and Sword", from Nobel-prize winning author Henry Sienkiewicz.
A new century of warfare that brings pistols, muskets, grenades, and other advanced weaponry to the battlefield.
Fully customizable armies; players can outfit their soldiers with each piece of weaponry & armor.
Additional quest types. More political intrigue with colorful factions. More adventure in a new land.
Multiple endings to increase re-playability.
Deeply researched historical component encompassing every aspect of the game's assets.
Ferocious new multiplayer action, bringing players the thrill of pitting old technology against the looming threat of firearms.
3 Main Story-driven quest-lines for the player to delve into once they've become known in a particular faction.
Additional quest types.
Implementation of firearms, adds a whole new layer of strategic depth to the franchise's proven combat model.
New Siege options to choose before besieging a town or castle.
New multiplayer Maps and new multiplayer mode, “Captain Team Deathmatch”
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I'm psyched. You should be psyched. I should be downloading the game right now, but it doesn't seem to have unlocked yet despite the timer running out.

Discuss all your Mount, Blade, Fire and Sword related funtimes here!

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I have posted all I know in that OP. I would know more, if Steam wasn't claiming the game is now available while at the same time not adding it to my library.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I hope that it's easier to command units in this one, because all I could ever really do is command everyone to stay still, then get the cavalry to follow me, send the infantry in en mass and then flank them with the cavalry. It's an effective strategy but it doesn't allow for a lot of inventive thinking.

    I also hope that it's just as satisfying to lodge the business end of a battleaxe deep into the death center of the human brain.

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I hope they have more hammers.

    I need more hammers. Always more hammers. Hammers, yes. Mm, hammers. Swingy hammers. Smashy hammers.

    HAMMERS.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    also I'm amazed it's only 1.2 gigs

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Looking at the specs, warband was.... 100 megs?

    Is that right?

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    Sir Headless VIISir Headless VII Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Looking at the specs, warband was.... 100 megs?

    Is that right?

    My install is 715 mb and I haven't played it at all so no i guess not. What should I do in this game, I bought it because i always see my steam friends playing it and it was cheap.

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Go to villages, recruit as many people as you can, battle bandits to earn money, promote and recruit dudes, swear allegiance to a faction, kick the butts of factions you're currently at war with, get more land and power from the king/sultan/whatever.

    You can also find a rightful heir to the throne, swear allegience to them and kick your own nation's butt in a civil war. This is HARD. But you can also convince lords you've built up relationships with to join your cause.

    I don't think I've ever got to a position where I've reigned over all. But apparently this new one has different endings and stuff, so it seems like it actually follows a narrative.

    Personally, I'm in it for the combat. So fun.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    new things in Fire and Sword:

    1) Guns
    2) Grenades
    3) It appears to be impossible to simply recruit villagers, the only troops I can find are the mercs you hire in taverns. Fortunately they're well equipped and money is much easier to come by. Unfortunately they do not seem to have the option to upgrade, but I assume I'm missing something there since we're supposed to have customizeable armies. I just haven't figured out how to do that yet.
    4) Pollacks
    5) Remember in the older games, where if you decided to raid a village you really just had to mob through and slaughter a few peasants before stealing all their shit and riding off with it?

    They are fucking brutally difficult now. It's a giant mob of trained guards defending each town. Far more, in fact, than could possibly be living in the six buildings you see on the battle map. Don't expect to be able to raid a village until you have an army at least forty hands strong. With twenty fresh merc troops I get slaughtered almost immediately when I try it.

    edit: two more:

    6) armor is difficult to come by. Looters and such are barely carrying any to steal from their corpses and it's still prohibitively expensive to buy in the market
    7) don't insult people in taverns

    it's a really bad idea


    edit again:

    8) go to the merc camps. They are not hostile, they are the people that help you upgrade your troops and allow you to hire loads and loads of new troops.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I wanna try this a bit. Gonna be too busy playing Tactical Intervention Beta and Section 8.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    ok I know M&B is pretty great and comprehensive

    but is there a mod that enhances the kingdom/empire/armies and lords management part?

    I've tried tracking one myself but the sheer amounts of mods out there completely overwhelmed me

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Someone buy me this please and thankyou

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    oh goodness gracious, is this really out now?

    heeeeeere we go

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    yup there goes my productivity for the next couple days

    and you know what?

    fuck productivity, I'm on motherfuckin break

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Every tiny band of bandits around the starting town has people

    People carrying rifles

    oh god

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    RedZeroRedZero Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Finally got around to getting a decent laptop and loaded the first one up the other night. After some trial and error, I finally figured out that Charisma is one of the most important stats.

    But good god is it hard to keep track of where everyone is. "Find King X in 3 days." Yeah, King X was halfway across the damn map when I got that message and is moving, how the hell am I suppose to do that.

    But the tournaments. Man do I love the tournaments.

    Also, playing this while watching Game of Thrones is so much fun.

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    MVikingMViking Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just started playing M&B: Warband and am enjoying ridding the dessert of looters and bandits. Gonna loot so many horses.

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    RedZero wrote: »
    Finally got around to getting a decent laptop and loaded the first one up the other night. After some trial and error, I finally figured out that Charisma is one of the most important stats.

    But good god is it hard to keep track of where everyone is. "Find King X in 3 days." Yeah, King X was halfway across the damn map when I got that message and is moving, how the hell am I suppose to do that.

    But the tournaments. Man do I love the tournaments.

    Also, playing this while watching Game of Thrones is so much fun.

    To find someone ask a lord of the same faction where they are

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Oh man, you seriously can't recruit through villages any more?

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The multiplayer has 15 new maps and a nifty new mode called “Captain Team Deathmatch” which gives each player a squad of bots (up to 24) to command. These bots are controlled in the same way as single-player and enable players to stage massive battles. I think people will end up doing a lot of historical re-enactments with this system. I’m hoping I can participate in some of them! If you’ve got any planned just PM Yazzy on the TaleWorlds forums!

    Seriously the best idea ever for this franchise.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    oh goddammit

    I cannot afford this right now!

    alright answer me this can I still be the Nords or can I beat things with an axe until they don't look like things anymore

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    you can't get on the side of the Nords

    but you can be a Swede

    there's nothing in the way of choose your own adventure storytelling in the beginning of this one, (which I thought was kind of lame) and I'm pretty sure everyone just starts off in the middle of the Polish empire

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    holy balls this is way harder to get established in then in classic M&B

    guns change everything

    lose your first fight, they take your horse and your pistol?

    good luck out there, motherfucker, you're doomed

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    guys should I buy this even though I literally have no money

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    holy balls this is way harder to get established in then in classic M&B

    guns change everything

    lose your first fight, they take your horse and your pistol?

    good luck out there, motherfucker, you're doomed

    lose a fight, reload your last save

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    YaYa wrote: »
    guys should I buy this even though I literally have no money

    well I can't answer that, but I can say that your experience in the beginning of the game will be pretty much identical to the way you're feeling now

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    screw it I'll just bring lunch from home tomorrow, it'll be more or less the same price

    woo!

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm trying to figure out how to play warband, since I can't get this.

    Can't figure a good character build to start with.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Step 1 to playing Warband: Download and install the Prophecy of Pendor mod.

    Step 2 to playing Warband: always bet on Ravenstern.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I might redo my usual angry Nord-who-beats-things-with-axes and be a dude who shoots dudes instead

    almost downloaded, wheeeee!

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2011
    Its funny

    it seems like guns are way overpowered, at least at the start

    but they're fucking guns

    they take forever to reload, but one shot will take out pretty much anybody

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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just got Warband the other day

    I'm fuckin addicted

    Is the map in this new one the same as the old ones? From the trailer it looked like it was Europe.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    oh my god how do you even get established in this game

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Avoid getting shot

    They all have rifles

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    also, walk into taverns

    see that guy with the rifle?

    hire him

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    genius

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    oh also

    if you have any cavalry at all, make sure they're ranged units, and have them follow you around

    there's a lot of pikemen in this game, and if you let them charge in, they will die very, very quickly

    can you set companion characters to a particular group somehow? When I give cavalry commands, my mounted companions just charge in ahead of me with no regard for the fact that everyone else is sixty yards behind them and unable to help

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Well, in Prophesy of Pendor I can do that, yes. You have to click on the companion in your army screen and then on the name of the group they're currently in.

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ragequit the game when the first companion I spent a pile of money on lied to me to get hired.

    He sold himself as a professional musketeer, and came with sod all firearms skill and no firearms. :(

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    FirmSkater wrote: »
    I just got Warband the other day

    I'm fuckin addicted

    Is the map in this new one the same as the old ones? From the trailer it looked like it was Europe.

    I believe it is set in Poland.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Did I hear Rhodoks? Well, I imagined I did. They's my favorites.

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